Congrats on your t8 and thanks for posting! I believe you get a PT invite as well due to the size of the GP, right?Originally Posted by kiwi
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I tried to have Chrome translate the report, and it's a hilarious read indeed :)
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Is there a standard list or primer for TA within this thread somewhere?
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They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
As is evident from the GP Paris result, Miracle is a force to be reckoned with here in Europe at least, despite it not being a DTB by The Source's standards.
What's our board plan vs. them? I find the match-up just fine when I play RUG, but then I have Nimble Mongoose, TNN and Stifle to combat StP+Snapcaster and Terminus, and in BUG we have none of that. Sylvan Library is a complete boss in the match-up, and I find that boarding my one-of Needle vs. Top and Jace is good, as is Vendilion Clique to combat late Termini. That's as far as I've gotten though.
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I find abrupt decay indispensible here. From my board, I'm bringing in pulse, k grip, liliana, pierce and clique. Depending on whether you see clique and snap g1, I may bring in disfigure as well. If I know I am going to need to deal with miracles, I may even slip a winter orb into the board.
I definitely think we have the hate to hold miracles off.
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They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
And golgari charm of course.
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They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
Yeah, when Jund was big I played 2 Winter Orbs in the sideboard, against it and Miracles, and it's also a bomb.
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I don't know if orb is worth the slot right now, as I don't know what else I would bring it in against
Edit: autocorrect... Stahp
They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
Against Miracles, the following cards are amazing:
Envelop -- counters just about all of their bombs
Golgari Charm / Abrupt Decay -- takes care of troublesome enchantments, and Charm can also regenerate your team against Supreme Verdict
Pithing Needle / Null Rod -- shuts off Sensei's Divining Top, and potentially Jace in the case of Needle. Without Top, their deck is significantly weaker
Vendilion Clique - answers the Miracle Mechanic and can assassinate a Jace they tapped out for
Creeping Tarpit -- dodges their Sorcery-speed removal
Thoughtseize -- They will typically sandbag answers, Seize deals with them proactively
Krosan Grip -- essentially uncounterable and can deal with any "big" enchantments they may bring in (Moat, Humility)
Dark Confidant -- draws out removal, but if he goes unanswered you've pretty much won the game
Sylvan Library -- you can be pretty reckless with your life total in this matchup
Winter Orb -- really screws up their plans
Liliana of the Veil -- Her +1 is game winning here, and eventually the Ultimate is relevant too
If Miracles is big in your meta, play three Liliana of the Veil in your 75 and strongly consider playing two maindeck. Most Miracles players I know agree that she is one of the biggest problems for the deck because she single-handedly wrecks their gameplan and they have very few good answers to a resolved one.
Every time I ultimated a Liliana of the Veil against miracles I have won, even stick her turn 2 and ripping their hand apart makes her a huge threat.
This is what I do. I also run 2 Golgari Charm, 2 Pulse, 3 Pierce, 1 Clique in the board, which are also all great vs Miracles.
They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
Bitterblossom. No one card has ever done so much damage to me whilst playing competitively. My BUG opponent cast it on T3/4 and didn't cast another Spell for around another 8 turns, discarding EoT at one point, then following up woth a Lili later on. BB and Winter Orb are my least favourite cards to see. A very early Krosan Grip on Top could be bad, but it has literally never happened to me, and stuff that costs 3 is not high on my list of things I'm scared of from a deck playing 19-20 Lands, 4 of which are Wastes.
I find RUG a cakewalk, and UWR just requires more practice. With BUG it feels like I'm in on RiPing you apart and then trying to fight your non-Creature bombs from there, or just losing. You don't waste your time on too much LD unless a Hymn happens to hit Lands and I have to find a Tundra/Volc for some reason.
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What do we think about our matchup against blood moon?
I feel like our only outs are either countering it before it even hits the field, or have the right amount/kind of mana and an AD / Charm in hand, given that we don't run basics (or have a couple DRS on the board)
They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
Thoughtseize also helps a bit (for some reason I always seem to find reasons to justify playing thoughtseize over hymn)
I think with painter making more headway, thoughtseize could def see more play in this list.
They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
How are you guys boarding against UWR delver, seems like a tough matchup for me. Batterskull is good. I have Thoughtseize and Krosan grip in the board. Along with disfigure. It seems like it should be an easy matchup, but I have troubles. In fact, if I post my board, would the experts with this deck mind giving me a better basic boarding strategy against the decks I usually see(UWR delver, miracles, storm, jund, DnT...basically the top tier decks)
Stock list and my board is:
3 Disfigure
2 Golgari Charm
2 Spell pierce
2 thoughtseize
2 Grafdiggers Cage
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Life from the Loam
1 Krosan Grip
1 Creeping Tar Pit
The main deck is so solid, but I usually find myself boarding out force of will and or daze. Is that incorrect?
Using your list, I'd want to bring in:
1 Grip (Batterskull)
3 Disfigure (Delver, Stoneforge)
2 Golgari Charm (Unflipped Delver, TNN)
2 Thoughtseize (Picks off equipment)
1 Vendilion Clique (Resp. to Stoneforge activation)
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9 Cards.
Game 2:
Out (depends on your main deck):
4 FOW (Not good in fair matchups)
4 Daze (Being replaced with relevant removal, but our opponent will often continue playing around them)
1 Ponder (You've got a third disfigure =P)
Game 3:
Honestly, if you are on the play, I'd bring in a few dazes here, if he saw them first game, didn't see them second game,
he may not be expecting them third game, and thus you might be able to catch him off guard. We will have the blue up
to cast it, and can be proactive with delver or thoughtseize as well.
DEPENDING ON WHAT I SEE MANA-WISE I would consider Life from the Loam, but we're already taking out a LOT of cards.
We're running 4 wastelands, and, if their base is greedy enough, we may be able to strip them off a choice colour for good.
It also can help quickly get up to a point where we can slam Tombstalker, which they really only have one way (STP) to deal with.
Tombstalker is great because naked, he just outruns TNN.
To answer your other question, I do think that boarding out FOW and some number of Dazes is correct. Your opponent will
naturally start to play around Daze, and you can really mess them up by not having it in there, and just packing more removal.
FOW is honestly pretty bad in this matchup, as it is in all fair matchups. It might keep them off of a TNN, but Golgari Charm kills
it just as well.
They banned Top, so now I play Grixis Delver.
That is basically how I have been playing, but I also boarded out one tombstalker, because if I can't deal with rest in peace early enough, he is just a dead card.
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