I always have Anarchy for the random Enchantress decks around. The matchup is slightly better now that we're using Moggcatcher and SGC, but I would still have them in the sideboard.Originally Posted by Blastoderm
I've been toying arround arround with the Goblin Stompy build for about 6 months now.
I took it to a 51 men Legacy event today. Went 5-0-1 in swiss.
And lost in the semi's to Pox (No picknick)
I played the list below:
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Chrome Mox
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
3 Trinisphere
3 Flametongue Kavu
1 Goblin Settler
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Moggcatcher
2 Rakka Mar
3 Siege-Gang Commander
4 Simian Spirit
1 Tuktuk Scrapper
4 Blood Moon
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
11 Mountain
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
Sideboard
3 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Ratchet Bomb
3 Tormod’s Crypt
3 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
1 Tuktuk Scrapper
2 Anarchy
I will do a quick write up of the the games. I have to do it out of the top of my head since I didn't make any notes.
Round 1 Storm:
G1:
Lose the die roll and get probed turn 1. I resolve the hated the turns thereafter and opponent scoops.
G2:
Get probed and Duressed and die to a tendrils a few turns later.
G3:
3Ball and Chalice do their job and Moggcatchers invites Kiki Jiki, Goblin Settler and Siege-Gang Commander to the party.
(1-0)
Round 2 RUG:
G1:
Thinking I'm playing storm again, I resolve Trinisphere, Magus and Chalice. Opponent scoops.
G2:
Boarded for storm, so a turn 1 Nimble Mongoose surprises me a little. I resolve a turn 2 Chalice at 1. I get bolted in response. Get pooked a little by the mongoose.
After resolving Magus and Moggcatcher my opponent desides he has enough. scoop.
(2-0)
Round 3 Elves:
G1: Have no clue what I play against, my opponent fetches a Bayou with a foothills. so rule number 1 kicks in "Resolve turn 1 bloodmoon" Ends up being elves. Finds his first basic forest turn 5 or 6 when its already to late.... dies to the hordes....
G2: He plays a few elves, I play a revoker on DRS and and end up with resolving an Ensaring Bridge. After resolving a Moggcatcher and shooting some elves with a Siege-Gang opponent scoops.
(3-0)
Round 4: Show and Sneak
G1: I resolve a turn 1 magus and followed by a turn 2 and turn 3 Magus of the Moon.... Yeah good old fashioned Magus beat down.... Opponent finds no gas and dies quickly.
G2: opponent casts a turn 2 Show and Tell, opponent drops Griselbrand, I drop Ensnaring Bridge. Opponent draws 7. but brigde does what it's supposed to do. Resolve Rakka Mar and start making tokens. then I make the stupid misstake of attacking too soon. Memo to self; Griselbrand has lifelink. Opponent blocks 2 tokens with a previously S&T Emrakul and a Griselbrand gaining 7 lives and drawing 7 cards again. DOH! Don't attack again. I resolve a Moggcatcher after that. Opponent desides to draw 7 again going done to 3 and crack a fetch. I search for a Siege-Gang and throw a goblin to his head.
(4-0)
Round 5: Thopter Foundry
G1: opponent counters my Bloodmoon and Plows the Magus but I resolve a Moggcatcher and my opponent casts 3 foundries in a row and starts poking me with 2 Thopters. since my opponents is light on lands (3) I deside to search for a Settler and a Kiki Jiki the turn after that and go after the manabase first. Siege-Gang finishes the Thopters first then the opponent.
G2: I resolve a Trinispere turn 1 or 2 and afterwards draw about 7 or 8 lands and a Chrome mox. Die to a Batterskull wearing a Jitte...
G3: Opponents mulls to 5 and I resolve a turn 1 Bloodmoon. Opponent has an Island. I have a Settler... opponent never recovers and I start beating with Settler and Revoker...
That was enough.
(5-0)
Round 6: Pox
ID, this is the same guy I lose to in the semi.
(5-0-1) get the nr 1 seed in the top 8 :-)
Top 8:
Quarter final: Belcher.
G1: Since I have top seed I can deside who plays first I know my opponent plays Belcher. So he is not playing first. I end up with a hand that has a turn 1 chalice at 1 and chalice at 0. After this I assemble a SoFaI on a critter and start beating.
G2: opponent mulls and mulls again. and can cast a turn 1 Charbelcher but no way to activate it. I have a turn 1 Phyrexian Revoker on Charbelcher. A turn 2 SoFaI finishes the job fairly quick.
(6-0-1)
Semi: Pox
G1: Mull to 5 and get hoosed by discard and Liliana. Get killed by a couple of bloodghast... guess this is the hopeless feeling my opponents had the previous rounds....
G2: I resolve a Turn 1 3Ball and a turn 2 Chalice at 1. then I stumble and a turn 3 Lilliana is the beginning of the end.... Bloodghasts finish the job again. Oh well I had a good run. It was fun.
Overal I like the deck as it is right now. Might want to find room for the 4th Trinisphere
But this is a fun meta game call. I liked it a lot.
Cheers
Last edited by Jelmerz77; 03-07-2014 at 08:07 AM.
Good work there!
Just was wondering though, how were the FTKs?
Exacty what you would expect of a utility creature like this. Never the MVP, sometimes the first to board out sometimes very useful.
Copying them if Kiki is not funny when you're at the opposing side of the table.
I am overal very happy with them in the deck, the only thing you can talk about is the number to include I guess.
I could see myself going down 1 or 2 copies if Miracles shows up in larger numbers.
So swapping them for main deck Koth of the Hammer would be good then I guess.
Koth would also help to a resolved Liliana of the Veil. Which is very hard for this deck to beat.
cheers,
Jelmer
That's been my experience with them as well, although they're great vs dredge as well. Target itself? lol
Hey guys,
So I am returning to playtesting werewolf stompy after going on a big MUD kick. I am taking this as a serious consideration for SCG LA. I did some playtesting against Jund, Tinfins, Sneak and Show, and Miracles, and I liked what I saw. Chandra, Pyromaster made it into my list and I find that card to be incredibly powerful. Stompy has always lacked CA and this really did it. I started off with Kabelis' list and this is what I got. I like the idea of dropping the Magma Jet for Sudden Demise to hose DnT and also be able to take down clutch things like goblin lackey. I am interested in playing the goblin build as well. One of the problems I foresee is the awkwardness of cavern of souls calls. Is this not the case? Any feedback is appreciated. Also thinking of including 4 x manic vandal in the board because he works on cavern of souls on human, and destroys the ever so popular stoneforge mystic targets.
4 city of traitors
4 ancient tomb
4 cavern of souls
8 mountain
4 hanweir watchkeep
3 instigator gang
4 simian spirit guide
1 rakka mar
2 flametongue kavu
4 magus of the moon
2 koth of the hammer
1 chandra, pyromaster
4 chrome mox
3 trinisphere
4 chalice of the void
4 blood moon
2 magma jet
2 stone rain
What do you mean by "calls"? If you mean naming a creature type, I've always been happy to name human. Giving wincons and magi protection from counterspells is one of this deck's greatest strengths
Exactly. In werewolf stompy human trumps all. But in the goblin version, you want human for magus of the moon and moggcatcher, and goblin for everything else. Just seems like it could bring up some awkward situations that's all.
I doubt that I would play Cavern of Souls in a deck that tries to punish decks with a non basic manabase.
Sure a guaranteed resolve of a magus of the moon is nice, but not having access to red mana doesn't look like something the Goblin build can handle.
I would never play less than 10 mountains in this deck. Usually I play 11.
I get that you're already pretty heavy on 4-drops, but why only 3 WINstigator Gang? The "Win" is capitalized for a reason.
Besides, I don't know see this deck running without at least 2 Koths. Granted my meta is full of Miracles, and Koth is basically the only thing we can do.
I have a new and exciting take on Dragon Stompy. Just homebrewing around.
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Hound of Griselbrand
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
3 Gathan Raiders
4 Zirilan of the Claw
1 Hellkite Tyrant
1 Dragon Tyrant
1 Nicol Bolas
4 Trinisphere
4 Seething Song
3 Blazing Shoal
2 Reforge the Soul
4 Chrome Mox
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
9 Mountain
SB:
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Blood Moon
3 Anarchy
4 Phyrexian Revoker
Shoal, Raiders, Mox are all outs to any dragons that end up in the hand.
If you're gonna run dragons like that, you might as well run Utvara Hellkites for the extra dude it leaves behind.
Alright guys, I have been playtesting the goblin versions, and it is fun as hell. Been getting tons of goblin settler/ kiki-jiki, mirror breaker wins. I am heading to LA tomorrow for SCG and this is what I think I am taking as far as the list. The only changes that I can possibly think of is maybe back up to 4 cavern of souls, and maybe -1 koth of the hammer for a purphoros, god of the forge or chandra, pyromaster. Another thought I am having is the ensnaring bridge and confusion in the ranks debate. Also, what are people thoughts on the ratchet bombs? Have they been good for you? I played a very similiar list last weekend and did pretty well. I know now that I have to keep a blood moon hand against DnT and Goblins. This manabase is very fragile to wasteland/ Rishadan port. Let me know what you think, and thanks for any input.
3 cavern of souls
4 ancient tomb
4 city of traitors
10 mountain
4 simian spirit guide
4 moggcatcher
4 magus of the moon
1 tuktuk scrapper
1 goblin settler
1 kiki-jiki, Mirror Breaker
2 siege-gang commander
2 boartusk liege
2 sudden demise
3 chrome mox
4 trinisphere
4 chalice of the void
4 blood moon
3 koth of the hammer
SB
4 leyline of the void
2 confusion in the ranks
1 stingscourger
2 anarchy
1 batterskull
2 ratchet bomb
2 tuktuk scrapper
1 goblin sharpshooter
Hey guys I failed you. Sorry. Punted my round 9 game which would have gotten me top 16 at SCG LA with Goblin Stompy yesterday. Went 6-3 shoulda been 7-2. I'll post a report later and you guys can tell me what you think. placed 45 out of almost 400 players.
So hear it goes SCG LA tournament report. 6-3 after punting round 9 (you'll hear how bad it was)
The list
20 lands
9 mountain
4 city of traitors
4 ancient tomb
3 cavern of souls
23 creatures
4 magus of the moon
4 simian spirit guide
4 moggcatcher
2 tuktuk scrapper
2 siege-gang commander
1 murderous redcap
1 goblin settler
1 kiki-jiki, mirror breaker
1 boartusk liege
3 purphoros, god of the forge
17 spells
4 chrome mox
3 trinisphere
4 blood moon
4 chalice of the void
2 sudden demise
Sideboard
1 anarchy
1 goblin sharpshooter
3 ensnaring bridge
3 confusion in the ranks
2 phyrexian revoker
2 pyrokinesis
Round 1: American Control
Guy gitax probes me "what is going on?" I land purphoros in the final game, he scoffs. I then grab siege-gang commander with moggcatcher to do 8 damage from triggers.
1-0
Round 2: ANT
This guy was really cool, his voice was fading from all the yelling both days but he was totally cool and chatted it up. Best line of the day "gitaxian probe….what the %^& is going on!?" I heard this line from a couple players.
Game 1: I get some chalice of the void action happening and goblin settler/ kiki-jiki, mirror breaker his lands keeping him off of black the whole game.
Game 2: He goes off just before me getting the killing blow.
Game 3: Trinisphere and Phyrexian revoker on lion's eye diamond. I get there with the phyrexian revoker and magus of the moon beats.
2-0
Round 3: American control
Not much to say in these games. I got a sweet sudden demise in game 2 after being mana starved against double delver of secrets and game 3 he drew the nut, he even admitted. Regardless 1 more land and I was catching moggs.
2-1
Round 4: American Control (Jesus are there enough of these going around?)
I get there with a magus of the moon being pumped by purphoros, god of the forge 3 times a turn.
3-1
Round 5: Sneak and Show
Game 1: I mull to like 4 but get a turn one blood moon. Opponent "Thanks for the red source bro" plays Island and t2 Show and tells an emrakul, the aeon's torn.
Game 2: Opponent casts show and tell. He reveals Emrakul, the aeon's torn, and I reveal confusion in the ranks. After a judge call and a crowd of viewers I get Emrakul, the aeon’s torn and kill him.
Game 3: I figured after game 2 he would side out show and tell. I was correct. He is 1 land short of through the breach. I phyrexian revoker lotus petal to buy me more turns to dig for an ensnaring bridge. He rips sneak attack and a sol land off the top and destroys my board with emrakul, aeon’s torn. I get my lands back up and cast ensnaring bridge but he has the spell pierce. I asked him about the phyrexian revoker call. He reveals his hand and showed me through the breach and said I made the right play.
3-2
Round 6: Missing opponent
Figured he was too scared of boartusk liege
4-2
Round 7: Sneak and Show (AKA oh go here we go again)
Game 1: I have purphoros, god of the forge and tuktuk scrapper in play. He casts show and tell revealing emrakul, aeon’s torn and I reveal boartusk liege making purphoros, god of the forge active and taking his health to 12. I am at 14 this looks bad. I swing with the team and emrakul, the aeon’s torn blocks purphoros, god of the forge. Get him to 7. I play murderous redcap trigger purphoros, god of the forge he’s at 3. He swings with emrakul, the aeon’s torn. I sac everything but chalice for 1 and purphoros, god of the forge. Murderous redcap persis triggers and triggers purphoros, god of the forge for 3 damage being lethal in the attack step. Close
Game 2: Opponent casts show and tell. He reveals griselbrand and I confusion in the ranks. Another judge call and some laughs and I get griselbrand. I play chalice of the void to get my phyrexian revoker back and the 2 get there.
5-2
Round 8: BUG Delver
Game 1: Can’t fight the 2 deathrite shaman and 2 delver of secrets
Game 2: Turn 1 blood moon. My opponent makes me play it out to see cards.
Game 3: I resolve a chalice of the void on 1 and a moggcatcher. I get murderous redcap to kill dark confidant and prevent a lilliana of the veil from doing anything.
6-2
Round 9: Belcher
Before the match even starts he calls a judge and asks for oracle text on confusion in the ranks and trinisphere.
Game 1: I mulligan and play a chalice of the void on 0. He casts land grant and gets his taiga. I play a goblin settler the next turn blowing up his land and he scoops.
Game 2: I mull to 4 but get turn 2 trinisphere so I keep. He gets 14 goblins on the first turn.
Game 3: He gets T1 goblin charbelcher. He has a taiga and chrome mox in play and a rit in hand. I draw ratchet bomb and play it because I don’t think I have third mana for the trinpshere in my hand. I play it and blow up his chrome mox and then saw the chrome mox behind the kiki-jiki, mirror breaker in my hand that I had forgotten about. If I had cast that then the game was mine. He then kept thanking me for the 50 bucks and told me I had plenty of time on the way home to PHX to think about how bad I misplayed. (He also kept telling all the viewers between g1 and 2 how big of a pile my deck was) Fun way to end the day.
6-3
Overall, I think the deck is competitive and no one knows what you have. I had cabal therapy casts on me and he called a card cuz he thought maybe there was a possibility it might be in my deck. That can give an edge. Purphoros, god of the forge is awesome vs planeswalkers and sudden demise is an mvp. Thanks for reading. Let’s make goblin stompy lists super tight!
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Congrats on your finish! As for the last player, he was playing Belcher, don't mind how they act: they're usually frustrated magic players.
This is gold, thanks. Made me laugh when I woke up.
Koth is also great against Jace. Hound of Griselbrand I used to play when Lili was everywhere (half my meta was jund/bug so he was amazing).
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