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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    This is a cool list. Assuming the absence of SnT isn't from online availability, the effect is largely covered by GSZ and Oracle. I've found that oracle and Titan in hand plays a lot like SnT Titan, with less vulnerability to black. With MTGo having so much hymn and liliana, this could be a very clever meta call, with the power to play with limited resources. SnT can theoretically be spared if you don't plan on facing RUG, UWR, UR, burn, or Elves, but I see those every single time I play, which makes less than 3 SnT risky in something like an SCG meta. I do like this lists respect for the fact that GSZ cannot be slapped in there without more vesuva and candles.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TimHarding View Post
    This is a cool list. Assuming the absence of SnT isn't from online availability, the effect is largely covered by GSZ and Oracle. I've found that oracle and Titan in hand plays a lot like SnT Titan, with less vulnerability to black. With MTGo having so much hymn and liliana, this could be a very clever meta call, with the power to play with limited resources. SnT can theoretically be spared if you don't plan on facing RUG, UWR, UR, burn, or Elves, but I see those every single time I play, which makes less than 3 SnT risky in something like an SCG meta. I do like this lists respect for the fact that GSZ cannot be slapped in there without more vesuva and candles.
    I played a list very similar to this.

    I think trinket mage could be a nice addition in a list like this maybe over 1 Candle. I have also really enjoyed a single Sylvan Caryatid and Dryad Arbor as GSZ targets perhaps over a Vesuva and a Kozilek. Lastly, I think one copy of Engineered Explosives is a nice addition to complete the trinket mage package, which could easily replace either the 3rd pithing needle or the 4th Crop Rotation.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Well, to quote someone else from my group: "Wasn't my best showing." 2-4 before I dropped. Still, it was my first SCG event and I had fun. I fully intend to provide a report; still on the road now and probably won't be able to write it up until sometime tomorrow evening. Hopefully it will be helpful or at least interesting!

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Got 3rd place at the 148 man event this weekend, Duel of Duals. Won x4 Tundra for my effort. I'll write up an event report in a day or two when I'm not feeling thrashed. Here is the build I ran, already have improvements planned.

    // Lands
    4 [SOM] Glimmerpost
    4 [MR] Cloudpost
    1 [WWK] Eye of Ugin
    1 [WWK] Bojuka Bog
    1 [LG] Karakas
    3 [R] Tropical Island
    4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
    1 [IA] Glacial Chasm
    1 [R] Volcanic Island
    1 [UG] Island
    3 [RLM] Grove of the Burnwillows
    1 [ST] Forest (4)
    1 [TSP] Vesuva
    1 [R] Taiga

    // Creatures
    4 [M12] Primeval Titan
    1 [ROE] Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    1 [ROE] Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    1 [ROE] Kozilek, Butcher of Truth

    // Spells
    4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
    3 [UL] Crop Rotation
    4 [5E] Brainstorm
    3 [ZEN] Expedition Map
    4 [CMD] Punishing Fire
    4 [GP] Repeal
    2 [US] Show and Tell
    2 [AQ] Candelabra of Tawnos

    // Sideboard
    SB: 4 [THS] Swan Song
    SB: 4 [AL] Force of Will
    SB: 2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
    SB: 2 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
    SB: 3 [JGC] Flusterstorm

    Matchups were: Oops All Spells, Enchantress, Manaless Dredge (piloted by Hollywood), Bug Delver, Bug, Merfolk, ID, ID. Top 8, URW Delver, Top 4 Food Chain draws the nuts & lose.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Congrats!

    But... No needle or revoker?

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Lee View Post
    Got 3rd place at the 148 man event this weekend, Duel of Duals. Won x4 Tundra for my effort. I'll write up an event report in a day or two when I'm not feeling thrashed. Here is the build I ran, already have improvements planned.

    // Lands
    4 [SOM] Glimmerpost
    4 [MR] Cloudpost
    1 [WWK] Eye of Ugin
    1 [WWK] Bojuka Bog
    1 [LG] Karakas
    3 [R] Tropical Island
    4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
    1 [IA] Glacial Chasm
    1 [R] Volcanic Island
    1 [UG] Island
    3 [RLM] Grove of the Burnwillows
    1 [ST] Forest (4)
    1 [TSP] Vesuva
    1 [R] Taiga

    // Creatures
    4 [M12] Primeval Titan
    1 [ROE] Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    1 [ROE] Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    1 [ROE] Kozilek, Butcher of Truth

    // Spells
    4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
    3 [UL] Crop Rotation
    4 [5E] Brainstorm
    3 [ZEN] Expedition Map
    4 [CMD] Punishing Fire
    4 [GP] Repeal
    2 [US] Show and Tell
    2 [AQ] Candelabra of Tawnos

    // Sideboard
    SB: 4 [THS] Swan Song
    SB: 4 [AL] Force of Will
    SB: 2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
    SB: 2 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
    SB: 3 [JGC] Flusterstorm

    Matchups were: Oops All Spells, Enchantress, Manaless Dredge (piloted by Hollywood), Bug Delver, Bug, Merfolk, ID, ID. Top 8, URW Delver, Top 4 Food Chain draws the nuts & lose.
    Have you missed the Revokers mainboard? When did you board in the Karns?

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Long, writeup-y post ahead. You have been warned.

    All right. I vowed that no matter how well or how badly I did that I would do a writeup since it was my first event. Here's the writeup of my six matches. I obviously didn't want to write things that were in my hand, what I saw when I used Brainstorm or Top, or anything like that, so I would have to rely on my (awful) memory for that. What this means is that most matches I didn't remember each card I drew or my starting hands, but one match in particular I remembered most of it. Unfortunately, that would be the best info of all (and I don't have most of it), but I did pretty much write the play-by-play for every one of my matches though. You can generally assume that if I had a Sensei's Divining Top out that I was using it to stack my deck whenever I had a chance, even if I don't specifically say it. My list is the same as before except I replaced the BEB with a Grafdigger's Cage. As I said before, hopefully this is helpful or at least interesting!

    Round 1 - Vs Belcher

    I win the roll and play Island and Sensei's Divining Top.
    He plays Taiga, Tinder Wall, sacs Tinder Wall, then casts Manamorphose, Desperate Ritual, then he pitches an Elvish Spirit Guide to cast Goblin Charbelcher.
    I untap and activate Top on my upkeep. The third card down is a Glacial Chasm. I play it, sacrificing my Island.
    He plays some mana, taps his Belcher and flips his library over. I get slightly confused and say "I...take zero?" Long pause, he looks at my Chasm, then scoops up his cards.

    --

    I look to my right to see Jeff Hoogland playing someone else who's playing our deck: this time, the mono-green version. Yay fellow Post players! I tell him that I have to root for people playing our deck. If you were that guy playing the mono-green version, hey there :)

    My opponent opens with Gitaxian Probe and passes.
    I play Misty Rainforest and pass back.
    He casts Land Grant, revealing 2 Elvish Spirit Guide, 2 Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Burning Wish, and Desperate Ritual. He gets a Taiga and passes.
    I play a second Misty Rainforest and pass.
    He plays a Lotus Petal and passes.
    I play a Cloudpost, crack both fetchlands for Tropical Island, and play Sensei's Divining Top.
    My opponent Probes me again and plays Tinder Wall.
    I play a Cloudpost and Pithing Needle, naming Goblin Charbelcher. (Aside: I figured he would be on an Empty the Warrens plan, especially since I knew Burning Wish was in his hand, but I didn't want to outsmart myself and get bashed by Charbelcher anyway. Last time I played an Oops all Spells player, I assumed he had boarded into Belcher and Needled accordingly, only to lose to the exact same plan. The guy didn't actually have a sideboard.)
    He plays Lotus Petal and passes.
    I play a Vesuva, copying Cloudpost.
    My opponent goes Rite of Flame, Desperate Ritual, Seething Song. I respond to Seething Song with a Brainstorm, then with a Top activation. I then Force of Will the Seething Song, pitching something I don't remember. My opponent uses Burning Wish to get Empty the Warrens. He cracks his Petals, pitches two Guides from his hand, and we have 14 goblins.
    I play a Glimmerpost, then drop Primeval Titan, getting 2 more Glimmerpost, going from 17, to 21, then to 33.
    My opponent swings with his army. I block a token, going to 20. He casts Xantid Swarm.
    I swing back, getting another Glimmerpost and a Vesuva to copy it, going back up to 36. My opponent scoops.

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    Round 2 - Vs Forgemaster MUD

    I mulligan twice on the play, keeping a five-card hand that still kind of sucks, but has Primeval Titan in it. I play a Misty Rainforest and pass.
    My opponent goes Ancient Tomb, Chalice of the Void on 1.
    I play Karakas.
    My opponent plays Wasteland, blows up Karakas, then plays a Grim Monolith and Metalworker.
    I draw something and say go.
    My opponent swings for 1, plays Cavern of Souls (naming Goblins), and drops Goblin Welder.
    I play a Bojuka Bog. Take that, Wasteland!
    He swings for 2 and drops Metalworker. I fetch on his EoT.
    I untap and cast Show and Tell. He brings a Mox Opal to class; I bring a Primeval Titan, getting two Cloudpost.
    He casts Lodestone Golem and passes.
    I swing, getting Cloudpost and Eye of Ugin. He blocks with Metalworker and Lodestone Golem. He then Welds his Mox Opal for his Golem.
    He swings and then Welds his Golem for his Opal.
    I drop a Vesuva, fetch Ulamog with Eye of Ugin, and cast Ulamog, blowing away his Welder. He scoops.

    --

    I keep a six-card hand.

    He plays Ancient Tomb and passes.
    I play a Forest and Sensei's Divining Top.
    He plays Great Furnace and Goblin Welder.
    I use Top on my upkeep and play a Cloudpost.
    He plays Ancient Tomb and casts Kuldotha Forgemaster.
    I play Expedition Map.
    He plays Great Furnace, Lodestone Golem, and Forgemasters in a Blightsteel Colossus.
    I play a Cloudpost and am sad.
    He plays Chalice of the Void on 2 and swings.

    I was pretty much an idiot here. I had both a Map and a Crop Rotation, but I had boarded out Glacial Chasm to grab another hate piece. I had never played MUD before, but that's no excuse; I should have known better. I got greedy and paid for it.

    --

    I keep a six-card hand on the play.

    I play Island and pass.
    He goes Ancient Tomb, Grim Monolith, Metalworker.
    I play a Misty Rainforest.
    He uses Metalworker, revealing Great Furnace and Lodestone Golem, then plays both of them. I fetch a Tropical Island.
    I play Cloudpost and Pithing Needle, naming Kuldotha Forgemaster. (In hindsight here, I probably should have named Wasteland. My thought process at the time was that Wasteland would be easier to play around than "get Blightsteel or other robots with all these crappy artifacts I have" would be. Given the way this game played out, this almost certainly would have been better, as shown below.)
    He Wastes my Tropical Island, swings with his dudes and plays City of Traitors.
    I play Glimmerpost. He untaps his Monolith on my EoT.
    He swings for 5 and Wastes my Cloudpost.
    I play Misty Rainforest.
    He swings for 6 and plays his Welder. At this point I desperately need cards. I fetch on his EoT and Repeal my own Needle.
    I play a Tropical Island and re-play my Needle, naming Goblin Welder. (But I'm down two lands, as shown above.)
    He swings. I use Crop Rotation to get Glacial Chasm that I brought back in because I'm not a complete idiot: just mostly an idiot. He plays Blood Moon. Well, that sucks.
    I cast Show and Tell. Hilariously, if Emrakul had been in my hand at this exact moment, I would have won the game since my opponent had brought himself down to 12. Unfortunately, Emrakul wasn't. Between Ulamog and Primeval Titan, I went with Prime Time even though Blood Moon was down: my hope was for my opponent to panic or get hit by an anvil or something long enough for me to get some lands to cast Ulamog and hopefully win from there. My opponent puts in a Winter Orb off SnT. Rude!
    He uses Metalworker, revealing Chalice of the Void and Wurmcoil Engine. He casts the Engine.
    I flip my top card. It's an Eye of Ugin.
    He swings with his dudes and wins.

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    Round 3 - Vs Patriot Delver

    Not only is it Patriot Delver, it's one of the people from my store I play with weekly! Frown! I can play against him on Tuesdays :(

    I mulligan at least once here. I think I kept a six-card hand.

    He plays Tundra and casts Delver of Secrets.
    I play Island and cast Sensei's Divining Top. He Forces it, pitching True-Name Nemesis.
    He flips his Delver off a Daze, casts Ponder (no shuffle), and swings.
    I draw a card, play a Cloudpost and say go.
    He plays Scalding Tarn, swings, fetches a Volcanic Island off his Tarn, and casts Umezawa's Jitte.
    I play a Glimmerpost and, safe from soft counters this turn, attempt to cast Show and Tell. That eats a Force of Will, pitching the Daze I saw earlier.
    He equips his dork and swings.
    I play another Glimmerpost.
    He plays a Misty Rainforest and swings. I bounce his dork with a Repeal. He plays a True-Name Nemesis and fetches, getting a Volcanic Island.
    I play a Misty Rainforest.
    He equips his TNN, bashes me and replays the Delver. I crack my fetch for a Tropical Island.
    I play a Tropical Island and cast Primeval Titan, getting 2 Glimmerpost. I play a Top.
    He flips his Delver off a Spell Pierce and swings with his dudes. He removes 6 Jitte counters to kill my Titan. He casts Stoneforge Mystic and gets a Batterskull.
    I play a Karakas and cast Ulamog, blowing up his flipped Delver.
    He plays a Wasteland, wastes my Karakas, and swings through.
    I swing with Ulamog. He responds by putting in his Batterskull with his Mystic. He sacs the Germ, Batterskull, Stoneforge Mystic, and a Volcanic Island to annihilator. I cast Oracle of Mul Daya. The top two cards of my library are Cloudposts that I had put there with Top. I play both and cast Kozilek, and that is that.

    --

    My opponent goes Volcanic Island, Delver.
    I play an Island and cast Sensei's Divining Top. Now, this is a case of knowing my opponent. I love Turn 1 Top. He knows I love Turn 1 Top. Last game, he Forced my Top. He lets it resolve, so I go ahead and drop Engineered Explosives on zero, knowing that if he'd had a counter, he would have used it on the Top. It resolves.
    Delver doesn't flip but pokes me for 1. He casts Brainstorm, plays a Scalding Tarn, fetches a Tundra, and plays another Delver.
    I play a Tropical Island and pass.
    Delvers don't flip, he plays Wasteland. He casts Stoneforge Mystic, getting Sword of Feast and Famine. He wastes my Trop. I respond by using Crop Rotation on it. It resolves. At this point, I had a Show and Tell in hand. Since some of my key stuff didn't get countered and his clock was slow, I figured I could play around soft counters easily enough. I go and get a Cloudpost off the Crop. He pokes me for 2, and I Brainstorm EoT.
    I play a Cloudpost and pass.
    Delvers don't flip, and he swings for 2.
    I've found Emrakul at this point, so I play another Cloudpost and cast Show and Tell.

    "What did you bring to class, Ian?" Apparently the answer is Stoneforge Mystic. I tell him that I've brought an ass-kicking and play my Emrakul. He gets Batterskull off his Mystic and plays it off his other Mystic.

    Delvers don't flip. He Brainstorms.
    I swing with my dude. He fetches a Volcanic Island and floats RR. He sacs his Germ, both Mystics, both Volcs, and a Tundra. He casts 2 Lightning Bolt at my face. I cast a Kozilek and play a Misty Rainforest.
    I'm a 6 life. He flips his Delvers off a Brainstorm. But now he has no lands and only a useless Sword in hand, and I Repeal one of them for the win.

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    Round 4 - Vs Sneak and Show

    Rounds 4 and 5 were nightmares that featured me mostly doing absolutely nothing but taking mulligans. This game in particular, I mulliganed at least twice. I very, very rarely go to four cards, so I'm guessing I kept five but it may have been four. I just remember being happy that I finally found lands that you can play on early turns. I just really, really hate being on four cards, so if there's land I can play, I usually keep at five. Usually it doesn't bite me this badly.

    I'm on the play, and I play Misty Rainforest.
    My opponent plays Scalding Tarn.
    I play Tropical Island.
    He plays another Scalding Tarn.
    I play Glimmerpost.
    He plays Lotus Petal and City of Traitors. He cracks both fetches for Volcanic Island and plays Jace, the Mind Sculptor. He Brainstorms off Jace. I now know what my opponent is playing, but I just don't have anything going on.
    I play a Karakas.
    He plays another Scalding Tarn and responds by tapping his City for two mana. He Brainstorms with Jace, fetches for another Volcanic, casts a second Jace, and Brainstorms with that one.
    I play Misty Rainforest.
    He plays City of Traitors, then Sneak Attack. He puts in Emrakul and Griselbrand and enters combat. I bounce Emrakul with Karakas and take the Griselbrand hit. He draws 7 cards and fateseals me with Jace, putting the card on the bottom. I crack my fetch and see what it was. It was Crop Rotation. I get Tropical Island off the fetch.
    He Sneaks in another Emrakul and another Griselbrand. I crack my fetch in response. Is there anything I can do to get out of this? No, no, there isn't. Splat.

    --

    Mulligan to five.

    I play a Misty Rainforest and pass.
    My opponent plays Island.
    I play a Tropical Island and Candelabra of Tawnos.
    He plays Scalding Tarn.
    I play a Forest.
    He plays a Misty Rainforest. At the end of his turn, I Brainstorm (finally finding a Swan Song), put junk back and fetch an Island.
    I draw...another Misty Rainforest. He cracks both of his fetches at the end of the turn for Volcanic Islands.
    He plays a City of Traitors, then Sneak Attack. I Swan Song it and he passes.
    I draw and play a Cloudpost.
    He has another Sneak Attack, and Emrakul eats my face.

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    Round 5 - Vs Sneak and Show

    This match I remember the most clearly, as it was one of the most frustrating matches I've ever had in Magic. My seven card hand was three lands and all four copies of Show and Tell. My six card hand was a bunch of garbage and an Emrakul. My five card hand had a Cloudpost, Vesuva and Pithing Needle (and maybe a Forest? Again, don't remember) so I kept.

    My opponent opens with Scalding Tarn. He plays two Lotus Petals, cracks his fetch for an Island, and casts Show and Tell. Inside I was fuming. I made the correct call in shipping my awful six card hand back, but if I had kept it, I would have had a free win. I sheepishly bring a Pithing Needle to class, expecting to see an Emrakul. Instead I see Griselbrand. Well, at least I can name that on my Needle.
    I play a Cloudpost.
    My opponent swings for 7.
    I play a Vesuva, copying Cloudpost.
    He plays a Volcanic and swings for 7.
    I play a Glimmerpost. Well, the 3 life has bought me another turn.
    He swings for 7.
    I draw a Crop Rotation, play a Forest, and he Brainstorms EoT.
    He casts Gitaxian Probe on me, then Ponder. I don't think he even re-arranged the cards from Ponder. He then plays Misty Rainforest and swings. I Rotate my Glimmerpost, get Karakas, and bounce Griselbrand.
    My topdeck is a Bojuka Bog. I play it. Get wrecked, graveyard.
    He fetches a Volcanic Island, then casts Show and Tell. All I have is a Trinket Mage, which I use to get Engineered Explosives. He drops a Sneak Attack.
    I'm one colored mana short of getting there with Engineered Explosives. Instead, all I can do is turn Trinket Mage sideways and get in for 2.
    In comes Griselbrand, in comes Emrakul, and there goes my face.

    --

    As we were shuffling for Game 2, my opponent wondered aloud if I was playing Lands. Now, you could make the argument that, having seen Cloudpost, he should already know what I'm playing. Maybe he should. That having been said, while I'm not the best mind-reader in the world, from what I could tell this guy was genuinely unsure of what he was playing against and just vocalized his thoughts. I obviously knew exactly what he was doing, and I made a note of it as I looked at my starting hand.

    The seven card hand had Bog, Eye and Vesuva as its lands, so it got shipped. The six card hand had no lands and that also got shipped. The five card hand had a Tropical Island, a Swan Song, and an Emrakul, and that one I kept.

    I lead with Tropical Island.
    He plays a Scalding Tarn and Gitaxian Probes me.

    Now, here is where everything gets questionable. Again, reading my opponent, he seemed genuinely unsure of what he was playing against. I knew that if he saw my hand he would immediately know what I was playing. My five card hand obviously sucked, but I didn't want him to know just how badly it sucked. I also didn't want to take too long in making a decision, because that in and of itself is also a tell of how dire the situation is. I mean, Probe is a zero mana Peek at Sorcery speed. I also figured that, given that I knew I was playing Sneak and Show, that giving my opponent a Bird wouldn't matter too much since his general gameplan involves taking large chunks of my life total out at a time. If he decided to go greedy again like he did in Game 1, I blow him out. I thus decided to Swan Song the Probe.

    Probe having been countered, he cracks his fetch for an Island, casts Ponder (doesn't shuffle), and passes.
    I play a Glimmerpost.
    The Bird gets in for 2. He plays Ancient Tomb, casts Ponder (doesn't shuffle), and passes.
    I draw an Eye of Ugin and say go.
    He swings for 2 and plays both Lotus Petal and Ancient Tomb.
    I draw Brainstorm and say go.
    He Probes again. I Force this one, pitching Brainstorm, with my reasoning again being the same as above. He plays a Volcanic and bashes with the Bird.
    I draw Ulamog and say go.
    He swings for 2.
    I draw Kozilek and say go. He Brainstorms EoT.
    He swings for 2 and plays a Scalding Tarn.
    I win the game. Just kidding; I draw and say go. He cracks his fetch and grabs an Island.
    He swings for 2.
    I draw a Karakas. I play it.
    He swings for 2.
    I draw an Oracle of Mul Daya. I now have eight cards, including all three Eldrazi and Eye of Ugin. I think for a moment and, deciding that the other seven cards are more telling or otherwise more important, discard the Oracle.
    He swings for 2 and casts Blood Moon. I fire off another Swan Song. That eats a Force, with Show and Tell pitched to it. So much for that plan.
    I draw and say go.
    He swings for 2.
    I draw and extend my hand.

    Having just watched a Bird get there from 20 to 0, I decided I might as well probe my opponent for some information. I asked him again what he thought I was playing and he told me that he thought I was on Lands until I cast the first Swan Song, but after that he had pretty much no idea. I show him my hand and he says "...Oh." I didn't ask to see his hand, but did ask if he had any more Show and Tell in his hand. He said no.

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    Round 6 - Vs UR Delver

    I don't know if it was the lack of sleep, nerves, or just the frustration of the last match, but my focus was pretty much shot by this point. I'm pretty sure most of this match was just me playing really, really poorly.

    He Probes me, then plays Volcanic Island and Delver of Secrets.
    I play Tropical Island and Sensei's Divining Top.
    He Brainstorms on his upkeep and flips his Delver with another Probe. He swings, plays a Misty, cracks it for another Volcanic, and plays another Delver.
    I draw, play an Island and say go.
    He flips his Delver with a Force of Will, casts Ponder (no shuffle), casts Goblin Guide, and swings with his dorks. I Top in response, leaving Glimmerpost on Top. Guide puts it in my hand.
    I play the Glimmerpost, then cast Engineered Explosives on zero. He Forces it, pitching the Probe...both of which I remembered seeing on the Delver triggers. I play a Map and pass back.
    He swings, I get a Vesuva off the trigger, and he Lightning Bolts my face.

    --

    I mulligan to a five card hand. It is Misty Rainforest, Top, and 3 Repeal.

    I fetch up an Island and play the Top. (In hindsight, this is also a mistake. I'm not used to seeing UR Delver so I just assumed that it ran Wastelands. It doesn't.)
    He plays an Island and a Delver.
    I Top on upkeep, find no lands and say go.
    He casts Brainstorm on his upkeep and flips his Delver off another Brainstorm. He then plays Mountain and Goblin Guide, swinging through for 5.
    I draw and say go.
    He plays a Misty Rainforest, casts Ponder (no shuffle), fetches for a Volcanic, then Probes me. He swings, and I respond by using Repeal on his Delver. Goblin Guide reveals Oracle of Mul Daya. He re-plays his Delver and casts Chain Lightning.
    I Top on upkeep, find a Tropical Island, play it and say go.
    Delver doesn't flip, but a second Guide comes down. That reveals an Island and the Oracle I put back earlier.
    I play the Island, but still have 8 cards in hand. I discard a Top and eat a Bolt.
    Delver doesn't flip. He swings, drops a Snapcaster Mage and re-casts his Bolt.

    -----

    So what did I learn from all of this?

    - I learned that I really, really like turn 1 Top and often keep questionable hands if I can play Top turn 1.
    - I learned that if there's a land that produces green or blue mana in my hand and I've mulliganed to five already, I pretty much snap keep it.
    - I learned that if you do that and there's no form of manipulation, you can brick really, really badly.
    - I learned that Blue Elemental Blast would have been good all day.
    - I learned that people at SCG Cincinnati really, REALLY like Sneak and Show. Seriously. That deck was friggin' everywhere.
    - I learned that I can write really quickly, but still wish I had taken even more in-depth notes, such as the cards I was drawing.
    - I learned that even though it can get hectic, SCG events can be a lot of fun.

    Well, if you read all this, I hope you enjoyed it!

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Nice report, very detailed, thanks.

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    Round 1 - Vs Belcher

    I win the roll and play Island and Sensei's Divining Top.
    He plays Taiga, Tinder Wall, sacs Tinder Wall, then casts Manamorphose, Desperate Ritual, then he pitches an Elvish Spirit Guide to cast Goblin Charbelcher.
    I untap and activate Top on my upkeep. The third card down is a Glacial Chasm. I play it, sacrificing my Island.
    He plays some mana, taps his Belcher and flips his library over. I get slightly confused and say "I...take zero?" Long pause, he looks at my Chasm, then scoops up his cards.

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    Why did your opponent scoop his cards at this moment ? He didn't read entirely the Chasm or ?
    All you did here was saving time but I guess the win was still far...

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by edk View Post
    Nice report, very detailed, thanks.


    Why did your opponent scoop his cards at this moment ? He didn't read entirely the Chasm or ?
    All you did here was saving time but I guess the win was still far...
    Many people here don't realize two things. One, that chasm eventually dies. The other, that they can stack their whole deck when they belch with no lands.

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    Interesting if belcher gets 3 draws and plays tendrils in side :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Lee View Post
    Many people here don't realize two things. One, that chasm eventually dies. The other, that they can stack their whole deck when they belch with no lands.
    Pretty much. He told me after the match that it was only his second or third time playing Belcher. I was equally surprised when he scooped on the second game.

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    Rock lee how was p fire ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-E View Post
    Rock lee how was p fire ?
    A legacy of his "Nic Fit" adventure

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by P-E View Post
    Rock lee how was p fire ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf View Post
    A legacy of his "Nic Fit" adventure
    Yes was a legacy, but also incredible in its own right. Hands down won me 3 rounds. I had two bug opponents at 40+ life game 1 just from grove recursion and I couldn't have been happier. Merfolk transformed into only-true-name beats for the entire game, which is perfectly fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Lee View Post
    Yes was a legacy, but also incredible in its own right. Hands down won me 3 rounds. I had two bug opponents at 40+ life game 1 just from grove recursion and I couldn't have been happier. Merfolk transformed into only-true-name beats for the entire game, which is perfectly fine.
    Sure, P.fire tends to crush fair decks.
    I'm really interested in hearing about Kozilek's back in the list.

    Gratz for the top4. Unlucky to be paired against "Food chain" :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf View Post
    Sure, P.fire tends to crush fair decks.
    I'm really interested in hearing about Kozilek's back in the list.

    Gratz for the top4. Unlucky to be paired against "Food chain" :-(
    The food chain player was a bit lucky (in game 2 he went off on second turn: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...als-Tournament), but I feel that the matchup is not much favored because food chain can easily switch from combo to aggro and it coulb be difficoult to side against.
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Lee View Post
    Yes was a legacy, but also incredible in its own right. Hands down won me 3 rounds. I had two bug opponents at 40+ life game 1 just from grove recursion and I couldn't have been happier. Merfolk transformed into only-true-name beats for the entire game, which is perfectly fine.
    Did you snag any goodies out of range by rotating into extra grove, or candling them?! Because that sounds sooo cool.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TimHarding View Post
    Did you snag any goodies out of range by rotating into extra grove, or candling them?! Because that sounds sooo cool.
    My merfolk player looked like they wanted to die on the inside when I did exactly that. Had 1 Grove, 1 candelabra in play, He had a Relic of Progenitus and my only card in grave is punishing fire. I eot Tap Grove, he taps Relic. I tap candelabra target grove, he pops relic, I crop rotate for a grove, return it, use my 2 red mana to shoot his dude for turn :D


    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf View Post
    Sure, P.fire tends to crush fair decks.
    I'm really interested in hearing about Kozilek's back in the list.

    Gratz for the top4. Unlucky to be paired against "Food chain" :-(
    I've actually been testing zero Ulamog, +1 Kozilek now that Punishing fire, karn, repeal handle every permanent.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by kingtk3 View Post
    The food chain player was a bit lucky (in game 2 he went off on second turn: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...als-Tournament), but I feel that the matchup is not much favored because food chain can easily switch from combo to aggro and it coulb be difficoult to side against.
    Possibly. Revoker, swan song trump that matchup though. Not to mention punishing fire being a house withstanding turn 2 kills requiring 8 cards.

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