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    Has anybody a video-link to a match of Cucunato at SCGO Series Cincinnati?

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraviolent2 View Post
    Has anybody a video-link to a match of Cucunato at SCGO Series Cincinnati?
    Round 7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONS_ZF3GZg
    Quarterfinals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJDjRJAeIE
    Semifinals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UenLrwVVBZc

    Still having trouble understanding the line of play with his final Thoughtseize on Nimble Mongoose. He's too talented to not have had a plan with that choice, but I can't see it and either way it didn't pan out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Round 7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONS_ZF3GZg
    Quarterfinals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJDjRJAeIE
    Semifinals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UenLrwVVBZc

    Still having trouble understanding the line of play with his final Thoughtseize on Nimble Mongoose. He's too talented to not have had a plan with that choice, but I can't see it and either way it didn't pan out.
    Fatigue had set in and he told me missed the delver due to the first time he played Craig that day he didn't have checklist. Rob has been really hard on himself for his game play in that last match.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdiedforyou View Post
    Fatigue had set in and he told me missed the delver due to the first time he played Craig that day he didn't have checklist. Rob has been really hard on himself for his game play in that last match.
    When he recorded the hand, I wonder what he put down for the Delver then. Did he think it was a different card and note that, then made his decision? Did he write Delver then forget? Or did he just miss it all together in his list and his mind?

    Either way tough beats, seeing how he deftly handled the same list prior, felt like the game was his to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    When he recorded the hand, I wonder what he put down for the Delver then. Did he think it was a different card and note that, then made his decision? Did he write Delver then forget? Or did he just miss it all together in his list and his mind?

    Either way tough beats, seeing how he deftly handled the same list prior, felt like the game was his to lose.
    Recorded it as delver but blanked on it while looking at the actual cards.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    That sucks but is reasonable all the same. Tell him congrats on the finish regardless.
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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by PollePotDK View Post
    I saw that Cucunato did rather well at the latest SCG Open Series and my eye catches his two Jaces in the SB. Weird, I thought.

    Can anyone explain me, in which matchup one would sideboard two Jaces in along with the City of Traitors (I assume!)?

    Wouldn't he just be removed in one turn? He can't seriously be a win-con.

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    Hello, I am Rob Cucunato. I ran the Jaces after seeing Owen T's article http://www.channelfireball.com/artic...ational-decks/ The idea is to bring them in when:
    A. We plan on taking out some reanimation for counters/duress. Once you have made them discard a few and both have expended FoW's, Jace is a 1 card combo
    B. When Show and Tell is a bad way to fight the Graveyard hate they bring in. Against the mirror/sneak and show

    I did not get to activate Jace last weekend, but he pitched to FoW and ate 3 or 4 of my opponent's FoWs. I am not sure if I like them over just a straight up answer to the hate (Echoing Truth)

    The commentary was really stuck on the Grave Titan. I have read about him on here, as well as my buddies jamming him in Atlanta:
    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=64118
    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=64127

    The Semi-finals were easily the worst MTG I have ever played. Someone else covered my ludicrous Thoughtseize. I am probably not as good as the other feature matches made me out to be, but I am better than that last match.
    I would like to thank this forum for my good run these last 6 months or so. For some reason it rejected my first two attempts to make and account, but now I am able to post. The primer on here is really excellent, and the contributions of a lot of you guys have only improved it. Reanimator will bring one of us a trophy! My 3 top 4's shows the power of the deck, the only thing stopping it is the pilot.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Thanks for joining Rob! I look forward to hear your thoughts on the deck going forward.

    When going 4 S&T and 2 Cities, what ends up being taken out? Do you drop 4 reanimation effects for the 4 cards coming in, or drop 2 lands for the 2 lands?

    I've been using Grave Titan for a while now and the point I always see overlooked is that he's the fastest clock in our deck. I had a game 3 start after time was called, only had 3 turns before it was a draw. One to land him, two turns at 10 damage each was the only way I could have won. Opponent had assumed I'd just naturally go for Griselbrand and be too late before I could get lethal. That was early in testing him and I haven't looked back since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Beard View Post
    Hello, I am Rob Cucunato. I ran the Jaces after seeing Owen T's article http://www.channelfireball.com/artic...ational-decks/ The idea is to bring them in when:
    A. We plan on taking out some reanimation for counters/duress. Once you have made them discard a few and both have expended FoW's, Jace is a 1 card combo
    B. When Show and Tell is a bad way to fight the Graveyard hate they bring in. Against the mirror/sneak and show

    I did not get to activate Jace last weekend, but he pitched to FoW and ate 3 or 4 of my opponent's FoWs. I am not sure if I like them over just a straight up answer to the hate (Echoing Truth)

    The commentary was really stuck on the Grave Titan. I have read about him on here, as well as my buddies jamming him in Atlanta:
    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=64118
    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=64127

    The Semi-finals were easily the worst MTG I have ever played. Someone else covered my ludicrous Thoughtseize. I am probably not as good as the other feature matches made me out to be, but I am better than that last match.
    I would like to thank this forum for my good run these last 6 months or so. For some reason it rejected my first two attempts to make and account, but now I am able to post. The primer on here is really excellent, and the contributions of a lot of you guys have only improved it. Reanimator will bring one of us a trophy! My 3 top 4's shows the power of the deck, the only thing stopping it is the pilot.

    It takes more than an aggressive beard and a case of the seems good to top 8 4 times in 3 formats within a 6 month span cooc.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    When going 4 S&T and 2 Cities, what ends up being taken out? Do you drop 4 reanimation effects for the 4 cards coming in, or drop 2 lands for the 2 lands?
    Sometimes you are bringing in Show and Tell to fight potential SB hate or DRS. In those cases I usually trim Careful Study and whichever reanimate spells or fatties are worst (Exhume vs mirror, Reanimate vs aggressive decks, etc). On the draw I have also cut a fetch(es) for the City or Traitors.

    Other times you are bringing the SnT package in when their deck is just not fighting on the same axis. If you fear nothing they can put into play, go all in. This tends to be against non-blue aggressive decks. Here you can often cut Thoughtseize, Careful Study, FOW or Reanimates to taste. Legacy is so diverse it is hard to express exactly when each is right. I don't run a bunch of different creatures anymore. It is usually up to pulling Iona when they have too many outs, Elesh Norn when their guys are too big, or Tidespout Tyrant when their permanents are homogenous (an none of them are Karakas).

    Sideboarding is such a personal endeavor though, so take this with a grain of salt. You need to keep the deck comfortable. I am not going to lie, sometimes I go deep. REAL DEEP. That is between me and the playmat though.

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    "Sideboarding is such a personal endeavor though, so take this with a grain of salt. You need to keep the deck comfortable. I am not going to lie, sometimes I go deep. REAL DEEP. That is between me and the playmat though."

    I'm a huge fan of this sentiment, I often feel the same way, and sometimes you gotta go deep to learn.

    Congratulations on your finish.

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    I was able to patch together reanimator with the collection of cards I have. I'm on the fence about using it at SCG Somerset or sticking with Jund. I bought the reanimation package and used whatever fatties I had laying around.

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    4 Griselbrand
    1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
    1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
    1 Empyrial Archangel

    Land
    4 Underground Sea
    4 Polluted Delta
    2 Scalding Tarn
    2 Swamp
    2 Island
    2 Verdant Catacombs

    Spells
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Careful Study
    4 Reanimate
    4 Exhume
    4 Entomb
    4 Force of Will
    3 Thoughtseize
    2 Ponder
    2 Show and Tell
    2 Lotus Petal
    2 Daze
    1 Spell Pierce
    1 Animate Dead

    Sideboard
    3 Duress
    2 Show and Tell
    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Chain of Vapor
    1 City of Traitors
    1 Ancient Tomb
    1 Gilded Drake
    1 Flusterstorm
    1 Echoing Truth
    1 Grave Titan

    I decided to pick a MB Empyrial Archangel due to my playgroup heavily favoring D&T. I'm also thinking of switching Gilded Drake with an Angel of Despair (no ashen rider around) but seeing someone's reaction reading it is hilarious.




    Is animate dead usually just put into decklists as more options to reanimate? I thought about cutting it since during play testing my opponents would go after animate dead instead of the fatty.

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    I'm all for the maindeck shroud creature, but I think Inkwell is better than archangel because it is harder to hose completely due to trample. It's also a faster clock against other decks where you might want a shroud creature (miracles).

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Inkwell really is the better shroud body. Empyrial was good in Zoo's heyday but it benefits a dead meta in modern times.

    Well run decks seem to hover on 9-10 reanimation effects, so Animate Dead gets the third string call up. I've found it either my only reanimation effect in the game, which is better than it being something else, or when given the choice, is used on a creature with immediate impact (Elesh Norn, or alternatively Tidespout with follow up spell). Worst case they Abrupt Decay the animate dead which puts you back in need of an effect, of which you now have 8 outs to. And given the likelihood that creature was Griselbrand and without suffering 8 life on the reanimate, drawing 7-14 cards generally nets a pretty healthy followup to the now graveyarded Griselbrand. So I don't really honor the naysayers of Animate Dead. Wins me too many things.
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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuke is Good View Post
    I decided to pick a MB Empyrial Archangel due to my playgroup heavily favoring D&T. I'm also thinking of switching Gilded Drake with an Angel of Despair (no ashen rider around) but seeing someone's reaction reading it is hilarious.

    Is animate dead usually just put into decklists as more options to reanimate? I thought about cutting it since during play testing my opponents would go after animate dead instead of the fatty.
    My inclination is to agree about Inkwell being the shroud creature of choice. A 3 turn clock is nice. Very seldom are you concerned about the race with Inkwell, where they may be able to piece together a board that kills Angel.

    I do prefer to run an interactive creature in the main though. Tidespout Tyrant is a card that can win games that have went way off the rails. I have had to deal with everything from Solitary Confinement, Ensnaring Bridge, multiple Marit Lage tokens, and of course hasty Emrakuls. He doubles as a suitable Karakas resistant body.

    I like to have 1 Animate Dead since Sneak and Show/the Mirror are more popular than Abrupt Decay decks where I play. If your Thoughtseize needs to hit a Griselbrand against Sneak and Show, drawing an Animate Dead, rather than an exhume, is a big game. Ditto for giving you game in the mirror. I have been running a 3/1 split on Exhume/Animate for a while now. Since you are maxed out on Exhumes, this is less about the difference between those two and more about an extra reanimation spell over a piece of disuption/cantrip.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    How about Ashen Rider?

    Together with Show and Tell, I'm surprised it didn't make main deck? Opposing Show/Tell decks too
    Ashen has funky synergy with Tidesprout Tyrant and Show and Tell, bounce and exile effects with Animate Dead

    Just throwing ideas

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    Legacy decks
    The Reanimator


    EDH decks
    The Mimeoplasm || Toolbox Reanimation Combo
    Doran, the Siege Tower || Tribal Aggro Control
    Sedris, The Traitor King || Budget Reanimation Aggro
    Marrow Gnawer || Relentless Rats Aggro Combo
    Olivia Voldaren || Aggro Control
    Gaddock Teeg || Support Combo Aggro
    Cromat || Hypergenesis Combo


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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Inkwell really is the better shroud body. Empyrial was good in Zoo's heyday but it benefits a dead meta in modern times.

    Well run decks seem to hover on 9-10 reanimation effects, so Animate Dead gets the third string call up. I've found it either my only reanimation effect in the game, which is better than it being something else, or when given the choice, is used on a creature with immediate impact (Elesh Norn, or alternatively Tidespout with follow up spell). Worst case they Abrupt Decay the animate dead which puts you back in need of an effect, of which you now have 8 outs to. And given the likelihood that creature was Griselbrand and without suffering 8 life on the reanimate, drawing 7-14 cards generally nets a pretty healthy followup to the now graveyarded Griselbrand. So I don't really honor the naysayers of Animate Dead. Wins me too many things.
    I'm a pretty big fan of Animate Dead as well. I was playing an Izzet Charm build for awhile though so I had more discard outlets. Plus, the Beta Animate Deads always look sad if I don't play them :(

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by Esper3k View Post
    I'm a pretty big fan of Animate Dead as well. I was playing an Izzet Charm build for awhile though so I had more discard outlets. Plus, the Beta Animate Deads always look sad if I don't play them :(
    yeah actually my main reason for running a 3/2 split of Exhume and Animate Dead is I have 2 Beta copies myself.
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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    yeah actually my main reason for running a 3/2 split of Exhume and Animate Dead is I have 2 Beta copies myself.
    You described my situation exactly.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator

    http://www.starcitygames.com/article...Spotlight.html

    Scroll to the bottom 2 lists, on Reanimator with LED :D

    thanks to a friend of mine who linked it to me earlier today.


    Legacy decks
    The Reanimator


    EDH decks
    The Mimeoplasm || Toolbox Reanimation Combo
    Doran, the Siege Tower || Tribal Aggro Control
    Sedris, The Traitor King || Budget Reanimation Aggro
    Marrow Gnawer || Relentless Rats Aggro Combo
    Olivia Voldaren || Aggro Control
    Gaddock Teeg || Support Combo Aggro
    Cromat || Hypergenesis Combo


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