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[Hopo]

I know that Oblivion Stone and All is Dust have been in previous versions of this deck. Any thoughts on the "new" O-Stone?



Seems slower than the alternatives, but the effect is quite powerful.

If you play Oblivion Stone, you should at least think about switching to this. The one and only reason being Abrupt Decay.

[Elfkid]

Yep, but u cant protect you pithing, titans etc... Its not bad, but its diferent ^^

[Hopo]

Yep, but u cant protect you pithing, titans etc... Its not bad, but its diferent ^^

Generally that is not what you expect from your sweeper. It's not why you should choose Oblivion Stone in the first place.

[Hencules]

If you play Oblivion Stone, you should at least think about switching to this. The one and only reason being Abrupt Decay.

Not get Decayed is awesome. Furthermore I rarely sweep once I already have an Eldrazi on the board. They are basically sweepers themselves.

[endqwerty]

Generally that is not what you expect from your sweeper. It's not why you should choose Oblivion Stone in the first place.

Why do we chose o-stone? I don't have any because of the reason that I want my pithing needles to remain safe. I'm probably missing obvious reasons, so if someone wouldn't mind explaining. Thanks.

[Togores]

I wrote an article abou the puishing post list a friend and me play here in spain (starting with rocks list). Its spanish but google translate might help :D


http://winandin.es/blog/punishing-po...drigo-togores/

[TimHarding]

I wrote an article abou the puishing post list a friend and me play here in spain (starting with rocks list). Its spanish but google translate might help :D


http://winandin.es/blog/punishing-po...drigo-togores/

That's a great primer!

[fdiv_bug]

I wrote an article abou the puishing post list a friend and me play here in spain (starting with rocks list). Its spanish but google translate might help :D


http://winandin.es/blog/punishing-po...drigo-togores/

Thank you for writing and sharing this! I just put the Punishing Fire variant together last night, and I'm really enjoying it, so having some additional insight into how to best play the deck will be very valuable to me.

The Spanish -> English translated version is perfectly readable, plus you get gems like the Spanish, "Esto se resume a maná infinito, tocinos infinitos, destrucción infinita y turnos infinitos," being translated to, "This is summarized infinite mana, infinite bacon, endless destruction and infinite turns." I'll play any deck that promises infinite bacon, especially if the deck also gives me infinite turns in which to eat it!

[Bobmans]

Viewed from a financial perspective, would there be a substitute for Candelabra of Tawnos?

[fdiv_bug]

Viewed from a financial perspective, would there be a substitute for Candelabra of Tawnos?

Unfortunately I don't think there is, though I picked up a Magus of the Candelabra for well under a dollar, and I do get great joy out of sarcastically shouting, "IT DOES THE SAME THING," when people mock me for it, but I really only use it during testing as a Candelabra proxy. The list that I've been working from only uses one, not that it makes it much better. :-\

For an event where I cared about having the right cards and couldn't borrow at least one Candelabra, I'm thinking I might substitute Exploration in its place, but I would also be open to other suggestions.

[HammafistRoob]

Does that question really need to pop up every other page? Basically all the alternatives aren't playable so you play without candles. It's still viable but you lose access to alternate lines and also a little explosiveness.

[Togores]

Thank you for writing and sharing this! I just put the Punishing Fire variant together last night, and I'm really enjoying it, so having some additional insight into how to best play the deck will be very valuable to me.

The Spanish -> English translated version is perfectly readable, plus you get gems like the Spanish, "Esto se resume a maná infinito, tocinos infinitos, destrucción infinita y turnos infinitos," being translated to, "This is summarized infinite mana, infinite bacon, endless destruction and infinite turns." I'll play any deck that promises infinite bacon, especially if the deck also gives me infinite turns in which to eat it!

Bacon in spanish is tocinos that more or less means big pigs also I was meaning huge monsters :D

[Hencules]

Viewed from a financial perspective, would there be a substitute for Candelabra of Tawnos?

Kassari's mono g version doesn't play Candelabra. There is a tabernacle in that list, though.

[Mockingbird]

Kassari's mono g version doesn't play Candelabra. There is a tabernacle in that list, though.

And with Death and Taxes (and beat down decks in general) in flux in popularity, I've been considering testing whether or not Tabernacle should go back into the sideboard for UG Post lists as well. Right now I'm playing around with Snow-Post again though.


By the way, the most Budget friendly Cloudpost deck that I am aware of is probably MUD-Post, which can be found in the MUD thread. I haven't done the math for building a Snow-Post yet, but an entire competitive MUD-Post deck should probably cost between $800-$1000, which is significantly cheaper than a fully equipped UG Turbo Eldrazi/12-Post or Punishing RUG-Post. While Candelabra of Tawnos can be skimped on, don't.

[TimHarding]

Glad to see that everyone is enjoying summer! Nothing huge to report but I've been performing well at weekly, IQs with this:

[MD]
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
2 Vesuva
2 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Forest
4 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Bajouka Bog
1 Karakas
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Glacial Chasm
4 Primeval Titan
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Brainstorm
4 Crop Rotation
3 Expedition Map
2 Candelabra of Townos
2 Pithing Needle
4 Repeal
2 Moment's Peace
3 Show and Tell

[SB]
4 Swan Song
1 Pithing Needle
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Krosan Grip
1 Blue Elemental Blast
4 Force of Will
1 Flusterstorm

I haven't had to change much. Over performers lately have been Basic Lands, Force of Will, Kozilek, Candelabra, and Moment's Peace.

The snow covers aim to force the opponent to respect dark depths, even though I won't play it or into the north lol. I've had a few people say they didn't shuffle away StP or Karakas after seeing the snow basic.

Also, status:
http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/Ti...baf90.jpg.html

[venice]

Hey Guys!

I played my 1st tournament with this deck last week. 29 people showed up, thus we had 5 rounds to play. I finished 6th with a 3-1-1 record earning me 1 Flusterstorm + 1 DRS.

I played against the following MUs:

Round 1: Some Esper Rogue Deck feat. Spellstutters, DRS, Cliques, Mindcensor (how annoying is THIS card, please?!), Daze, Thoughtseize etc. but no FoW. I won 2:1 beating like 6 Mindcensor in 3 games. Man, that card is a real beating agaist us.

Round 2: TES, I manage to win both games. First game I start with Glimmerpost, my opponent goes for the Tendrils kill on turn 2 but misses that I am at 21 life (he storms for 10 only). So I fall down to one and S&T into Titan into Lifegain+Bojuka Bog seals the deal. G2 he goes for 16 Goblins on turn2 I have the S&T => Titan again and he can´t handle that. Pretty lucky.

Round 3: Omnishow UB (Black for Thoughtseize only) I loose in 3 Games. Honestly I feel, that this is a really tough MU for us. I only managed to win G2 because I had Krosan Grip in response to his Enter the Infinite. He show and telled Omniscience, me Primeval Titan. Since he couldn´t do anything more on his turn without Omni in play; i was able to get infinite Emrakuls thanks to Primeval Titan on my turn. G3 he has more Countermagic than I do so 1-2.

Round 4: Nic Fit! THAT was fun!! 2-0

Round 5: Jund 1-1-1 G1 was really long and grindy with me stabilizing at low life thanks to Chasm. G2 I loose to quick beatings backed up by several discard and Wastelands. Sadly I lack one turn to finish him in G3 because I only manage to get Emrakul into play on my last extra turn...

In conclusion, I have to say the deck is so much fun to play, since you have access to so many broken plays. My list was the same that Jeremiah Top8ed Somerset with.

I also did lots of testing against Team America in the last couple of days and have to admit, I am loosing pretty hard to that deck. I don´t know if or what I am doing wrong but the combination of Hymn, Wasteland, Daze/Pierce/FoW + quick beats is a really tough combination to get through.
What are your experiences regarding that MU?

My current list:

[Maindeck]

4 Glimmerpost
4 Cloudpost
2 Vesuva
2 Island
2 Forest
3 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Karakas
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Eye of Ugin

1 Emrakul
1 Kozilek
1 Ulamog
4 Primeval Titan

3 Show and Tell
4 Brainstorm
4 Repeal

3 Crop Rotation
3 Moment´s Peace

2 Candelabra of Tawnos
2 Expedititon Map
3 Pithing Needle
4 Sensei´s Divining Top

[SB]

4 Swan Song
3 Flusterstorm
4 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Obstinate Baloth / FoW

Also, Tim: nice deck!!

I´ll try to post a pic of mine as well next days!

[venice]

There you go!

http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/ve...tml?sort=3&o=0

[sauce]

I also did lots of testing against Team America in the last couple of days ad have to admit, I am loosing pretty hard to that deck. I don´t know if or what I am doing wrong but the combination of Hymn, Wasteland, Daze/Pierce/FoW + quick beats is a really tough combination to get through.
What are your experiences regarding that MU?

It is the worst matchup out of fair decks. The combination of Goyf, Wasteland, Daze and Hymn is very difficult to beat. I think your best shot is a quick S&T into Primeval w/ a Dryad Arbor or Khalni Garden fetch.
EDIT: If opponent does not put pressure on, you obviously can win by bobbing and weaving w/ Brainstorm, SDT, Crop rotation, etc.

[venice]

It is the worst matchup out of fair decks. The combination of Goyf, Wasteland, Daze and Hymn is very difficult to beat. I think your best shot is a quick S&T into Primeval w/ a Dryad Arbor or Khalni Garden fetch.
EDIT: If opponent does not put pressure on, you obviously can win by bobbing and weaving w/ Brainstorm, SDT, Crop rotation, etc.

Yes, this is exactly my impression as well.

I just did some testing with Togores Punishing Post list and so far it feels definitely stronger against BUG as the straight UG list.

[Togores]

Yeah, that the plan to beat them. punishing fire is really good and with him you only have to care about tarmos. Thats the reason I wuld love to include 2 explosives. But there is no card I wanna cut >.<