Yeah that's what made me think of Summoning Trap. The Khans one is a sorcery, I think the instant speed beats out the extra card. I might try it next week at the local.Originally Posted by Postman
So I have been tinkering with tangle wire in the deck for a little while, and I like it but I am interested in making it a little smoother.
Some of the key plays deck:
-bouncing tangle wire back to hand with a chain of vapor or repeal
-Stacking multiple tangle wire to lock out the game
- Making as many land-drops while your opponent is locked out
- landing a hay-maker after tangle wire is no long necessary
- being less effected by your tanglewire because of candle
- being able to bounce your own candle 7 different ways
Tangle wire can time walk many opponents (think delver or mid range) for multiple turns while you make your land drops. if they are doing things (like waste landing you) they are not feeding the wire making their play net-neutral rather than gains for them. After you have taken enough turns to have sufficient land-drops you start dropping bombs like karn and titain. #winning?
1 Karakas
4 Glimmerpost
4 Cloudpost
4 Vesuva
3 Island
4 Tropical island
1 Glacial Chasm
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Eye of Ugin
4 Primeval Titain
1 Emmy
1 Kozilek
2 Karn Liberated
4 Tangle Wire
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Expedition Map
2 Pithing Needle
2 Candelabra of Tawnos
4 Chain of vapor
3 Repeal
4 Brainstorm
3 Crop Rotation
Sideboard:
4 Force of will
3 Fluster Storm
3 Swan Song
3 Ensnaring bridge
2 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Karn Liberated
Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.
Edit: lists are cool.
No bojuka mb or sb? Meta call or do you have another strategy?
Bog should be in there somewhere, probably in the place of a vesuva. I originally didn't add it because I was interested in emphasizing the tangle wire. the decks where tangle wire is good bog isn't and vice versa.
I finally bought Show and tells and Misty rainforests on MTGO and decided to take them for a spin.
I have recorded 7 videos yesterday of me playing UG post vs random/unknown opponents. Out of them the first 2 were recorded incorrectly and did not get uploaded because of that. They were vs TES and vs the Mirror. (I won both.)
The reasons I am recording:
- To practice and have fun with the deck
- To teach and share with others
- To learn from your feedback
- I do not have time to stream or play dailies because it is currently difficult for me to carve out a 3-4 hour block of time due to other life obligations (kid/wife/job)
I will be uploading more into that playlist and posting about it on this thread when they are ready.
The playlist -- http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
NEW Videos (from 2014-09-04)
vs Burn -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbTi0de_-VI
vs UW/r Thopter Blade -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxlAnELI00
vs RUG Delver (budgety version?) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erz8rjRTyqc
vs Miracles -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hJQcMliFY
vs BUG Walkers -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1SugxOCJ6U
vs BUG Delver -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd6pqMGEncw
OLD Videos (from v3 client)
There are some older videos from the v3 client in there. They do not have Show and tells so YMMV. :)
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
Love watching these videos! Thanks for uploading. It's how I learned half of how to play this deck.
I went 2 - 1 - 0 last night at a local shop. Was up against janky death and taxes (2-0) dark maverick (0-2) (first game we played he kept a hand with 2 wastelands and topdecked a third) and last was 'murica delver (2-1)
I won 5 dollars. Which was my entry fee.
This is significant however, because it's the first time I've won anything, ever, playing magic.
Oh, my list is pretty stock UG.
Goona remake it today I think...
Just another observation, reading the other primers for other decks, one of the ways we do so well I think is that so many other decks seem to fundamentally misunderstand how we play.
Like, a lot of the matchup analysis have us pegged banking on SnT'ing eldrazis into play...oh well. Their misunderstanding is our advantage I guess
Haven't had a chance to watch these yet, but they look really great, and I wanted to thank you for sharing!
Forgot to mention, this is the list (with a slightly modified sideboard):
http://mtgpulse.com/event/17461#247319
It's the same 60 maindeck from my 9th place finish at SCG DFW Aug 2014.
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
I have always a hard time understanding how to ever beat storm with 12-Post. Could you please share what you remember from that match?
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It's fairly straight forward, 15 cards come in.
Preboard:
http://www.berzerk.org/12post/12post-maindeck.png
Postboard config vs TES/ANT/Belcher/Doom
http://www.berzerk.org/12post/12post...d-vs-storm.png
The premise is to try and stick a SDT and float either Flusterstorm, Swan song or FoW on top of your deck instead of in hand so they cannot duress you and then kill you.
They usually have to/will go all in eventually and one counterspell is usually a 5 for 1 if not 7 for 1.
You can win at your leisure with Trinket beats or Revoker. Revoker names LED.
I only lost once to any storm deck ever with 12 post. It was Belcher in 3 games where g3 he was on the play and turn 1 killed me.
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
Just posted a video vs "Goblins" (in quotes because it's not a typical Goblins build)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uvXYldzXL4
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
From what i know TES/ANT/Belcher run Xantid swarm so floating a counter seems useless to me. Maybe i'm missing a point but Xantid and slow clock for you i can't see how post can win against Storm.
Xantid swarm is a problem for sure, you have to counter it/repeal it/EE it or hope they dont draw it.
You can also try to get relic in play and not let them go down the PiF plan if they have Xantid swarm.
If they make goblins you can EE/moment's peace/Glacial chasm.
If they do not have swarm though, the game is much easier. I have repealed Xantid swarm 2x and then Vensered it and opponent decided to go for it while I had FoW on top and SDT in play.
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
More videos:
- vs Enchantress - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb5NpyzoF1o
- vs Hypergenesis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzqG-9RtflE
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
what just happened with Kevin Hart, he forgot that Moment's Peace has flashback? ugh
My 12 Post Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...Q65OWRL5my7utn
Same question here, too. Looked like a win, and suddenly Mr. Hunt quits? :-/
There was also the SnT misplay with Blood Moon out.
Whooo!!! Sauce, you sir, are a godsend. No, not the artifact... maybe... I don't judge, well I do actually, but anyways :)
Thanks, I've always wanted to see some 12 post videos with actual though involved in the commentating.
That camera match was so brutal to watch. Maybe it was the pressure of being on camera.
Multiple misuses of top (or lack of use), but the biggest one was trying to keep his opp from recasting blood moon. He had a needle in hand, just run it out naming Quirion Ranger. Force him to draw the land.
Hi there my cockatrice fellow :)
i've started using Extract in my sideboard as a pretty efficient way to kill all those decks in a row. Turn 1, blue source -> Extract -> if ANT, remove Tendrils/if TES, remove Ad Nauseam/if Doomsday, remove Ideas Unbound/ if Omnitell, remove Emrakul -> mostly gg against them all.
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