Commander 2014 thread

[bruizar]

Preordered 4

[Barook]

Some really nice cards, but costing 3R really killed that walker, if he were 2R he'd be so amazing in legacy. The Living ARtifact death is for vintage, and can work as a sort of second sunrise engine too.

He seems borderline playable in the right deck. If Imperial Painter can run Koth or Chandra, I fail to see why it can't run Daretti, especially since he's easier to cast due only requiring instead of .

An U/R deck, as Quizzlemanizzle mentioned, sounds interesting, especially since you can gain retarded amounts of card quality and advantage with lots of loot effects + Treasure Cruise.

[rufus]

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An U/R deck, as Quizzlemanizzle mentioned, sounds interesting, especially since you can gain retarded amounts of card quality and advantage with lots of loot effects + Treasure Cruise.

If he stays on the table, he's going to be a beating. The concern is that his self-defense ability is pretty limited.

[Memories of the Time]

P. Fire, loam, dack+Daretti, b. Wish (or no), cruise, thirst... Draw your deck and put mindslaver in play. With Chalice and D.mox, creatureless (just Vendilion and/or wurmcoil)

[TsumiBand]

Daretti looks super solid and fun, in EDH anyway. In Legacy... it remains to be seen, but that's the best + ability on any mono-Red walker pretty much ever and it can feed the - ability pretty succinctly. Seems a decent trade for not being able to guard itself; if you wanted him safe youda pitched Basking Rootwalla to his + ability, right?! Can we start playing Madness again now? I want to Violent Eruption all the things. So damn bad.

My only sads is that they didn't stick with the 'old walkers' theme - it would have been an entirely different card if it'd been Jaya, but god damn did I want it to be Jaya pretty badly. I was even willing to endure some stupid "well see, Ob-Nix is secretly an old walker because" bilge from the mothership. But nah, we have two olds and two news, makes me far less hopeful about the White one being Serra :/

...but that's kid shit. Bring on the 8-Welder decks!

[bruizar]

If he stays on the table, he's going to be a beating. The concern is that his self-defense ability is pretty limited.

+2 puts him on 5, that's quiet a lot. Often Jace also +2's instead of -1's to protect itself.

[MGB]

Daretti seems custom-designed for Vintage Workshop decks.

Could be quite a house in Legacy too though, in a Painter-Stone or Metalworker list of some kind.

[Quizzlemanizzle]

Nahiri sucks. Double white and 5cmc in a color without ramp, again just 3 starting loyalty and at 5 mana she seems considerably worse than 4cmc Elspeth

[Barook]

Nahiri sucks. Double white and 5cmc in a color without ramp, again just 3 starting loyalty and at 5 mana she seems considerably worse than 4cmc Elspeth

I agree.

Should have costed 4 mana. Recurring countered/destroyed equipment is a nice touch, but she's too expensive for what she does.

[Quizzlemanizzle]

her ultimate is a joke for -10

folds to a simple card like Void Snare or any exile permanent/artifact. Even at -5 it would be meh.

[Barook]

her ultimate is a joke for -10

folds to a simple card like Void Snare or any exile permanent/artifact. Even at -5 it would be meh.

They obviously did cost the ultimates so high to prevent Doubling Season shenanigans.

A retarded design choice, if you ask me.

[apple713]

her ultimate is a joke for -10

folds to a simple card like Void Snare or any exile permanent/artifact. Even at -5 it would be meh.

yeah, they should have added a clause saying " if this equipment leaves the battlefield, instead return it to play"

[MGB]

Titania, Protector of Argoth seems like it will find a home somewhere in this format.

5/3 for 3GG is a bit fragile but that ability to basically turn fetchland activations into 5/3s is just sooo powerful.

[Quizzlemanizzle]

They obviously did cost the ultimates so high to prevent Doubling Season shenanigans.

A retarded design choice, if you ask me.

they already made the ultimates incredibly weak to support the "can be commander clause"..

[Quizzlemanizzle]

Titania, Protector of Argoth seems like it will find a home somewhere in this format.

5/3 for 3GG is a bit fragile but that ability to basically turn fetchland activations into 5/3s is just sooo powerful.

and also really slow, at 5 mana there is no chance for her even in green..

[Barook]

yeah, they should have added a clause saying " if this equipment leaves the battlefield, instead return it to play"

Or give it hexproof.

Her -2 isn't that great, either. Paying to put an equipment just into play is pretty meh. Should have equipped it to a creature as well.

White has the most bland cards spoiled so far.

[apple713]

It is unreal how inconsistent the power levels of cards are. It's like they have a random card generator and then just assign mana costs....

This is arguably on the same power level of liliana and jtms. I am really happy that for once red is getting good cards, because for years they have been getting the shaft.. like 10 years....

[Rizso]

Thats a powerful red planeswalker. Quite cheap as well for its effect and splashable even.

[Gheizen64]

Nahiri sucks. Double white and 5cmc in a color without ramp, again just 3 starting loyalty and at 5 mana she seems considerably worse than 4cmc Elspeth

Again, at 4 this would've been really playable in white decks a bit more heavy with equips. At 2WW, the ability to play a batterskull or recycle it, plus the ability to equip anything with the +2 is quite good but whatever.

[Barook]

It is unreal how inconsistent the power levels of cards are. It's like they have a random card generator and then just assign mana costs....

This is arguably on the same power level of liliana and jtms. I am really happy that for once red is getting good cards, because for years they have been getting the shaft.. like 10 years....

Looks like they took the promise about more consistent power/price level from last year after the TNN disaster and shat on it.

But JMTS/Liliana power level? Daretti is an interesting card, but let's get not ahead of ourselves here until he sees play in a proper shell.