[Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

[Ancestral]

yeah I know the journey, but I'm glad I have it 99% finished (need jap foil CoV), if you ever get the PiF signed post it I haven't seen that sig anywhere

just try it out and tell yourself, that's the best way, you might not like it afterall who knows, but I can assure you it shreds UR and UWR quite well and Miracles can be quite close - depends on their SB plan and player obv.

those are expensive :p and yes i only have in japanese not sign yet.

and if it´s better agains UR and UWR it´s good to have now, in my meta there are a lot of bug, i m hoping that this version can fight bug better as well, in theory i guess it´s better :)

[Bryant Cook]

yeah I know the journey, but I'm glad I have it 99% finished (need jap foil CoV), if you ever get the PiF signed post it I haven't seen that sig anywhere

I've messaged Anthony Jones twice with no response either time...

[Ancestral]

I've messaged Anthony Jones twice with no response either time...

i can´t even saw any signature of him in any card ...maybe my journey it will be longer than i expected, also congratz on your awesome looking TES deck :D i´ve watched you games at scg and it´s a pleasure to see the deck :D you should play ANT, that way i (and other players) can learn even more ahah

[Sloshthedark]

those are expensive :p and yes i only have in japanese not sign yet.

and if it´s better agains UR and UWR it´s good to have now, in my meta there are a lot of bug, i m hoping that this version can fight bug better as well, in theory i guess it´s better :)

not that much, I missed auctions when it ended up at $50 and I'm just not willing to buy at $100, and coversion rate is a bitch for my country lately (upside is I haven't bought into Modo thanks to this)
BUG is reasonably good preboard (EtW) and very bad postboard - I have just Needles and Ad Nauseam postboard... otherwise it would be the best deck and everyone would play it ;)

I've messaged Anthony Jones twice with no response either time...

exactly the same for me... maybe we should write high numbers into the message, but I have a feeling unless a person who know him or someone like Markers step in the door will be closed

[sawatarix]

Most of the (experienced) Storm-players (TES/Ant) are in the habit to pimp their Decks for some reason - so do I :D

Every time i go to a bigger tournament i see new people with foil/russian/japanese/beta/blackboardered/whatever stormdecks and honestly, i really enjoy to play with and against those decks. For me these cards changed my playstyle and i think most of you will agree: I play more patiently and i reveal my ad nauseam cards pretty slowly because i enjoy every single shiny card among them.
End of Trashtalk.

#New Topic: A friend of mine who saw the pyromancer build asked me what i think about goblin rabblemaster against miracle control :DDDD
Still getting new ideas from different people about a new blowout sideboard against certain decks.

[Chaam]

I posted this on the storm boards but posting here to see what people think.

I've been wanting to make a list that has the most consistent/focused G1s and came up with the following (note the absence of Ad Naus and a 15th land):

Sorceries (25)
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Duress
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Infernal Tutor
1 Past in Flames
1 Tendrils of Agony

Instants (12)
4 Brainstorm
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual

Artifacts (8)
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond

Lands (15)
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
2 Island
1 Swamp

Sideboard (15)
3 Xantid Swarm
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Carpet of Flowers
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Krosan Grip
1 Empty the Warrens
2 Massacre
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Ad Nauseam


The Mainboard is streamlined and focused for a G1 PiF kill (with 16 cantrips, 16 fast mana, 7 discard/protection, 4 tutors, 1 engine, 1 win con) since I had previously found myself boarding out Ad Naus a lot in this heavy Burn/Delver meta. I think just going for PiF g1 and then SBing in Ad Naus for g2 adn g3 in the matchups you want it is probably a good idea right now.

[wonderPreaux]

8 discard seems like a bit much, and cutting land when Delver, and thus Daze, is a big deal seems to defeat the purpose of ANT's consistent mana development. Why not just run 16 cantrips, 15 land, 7 discard, 16 accel, 6 business and Ad Nauseam in the board? I actually think this could be cool to try fwiw, since I'm a big fan of 16 cantrips.

[Chaam]

8 discard seems like a bit much, and cutting land when Delver, and thus Daze, is a big deal seems to defeat the purpose of ANT's consistent mana development. Why not just run 16 cantrips, 15 land, 7 discard, 16 accel, 6 business and Ad Nauseam in the board? I actually think this could be cool to try fwiw, since I'm a big fan of 16 cantrips.

That makes sense. I edited my post accordingly.

I need to figure out the SB though. I feel like I always over SB.

[Togores]

Most of the (experienced) Storm-players (TES/Ant) are in the habit to pimp their Decks for some reason - so do I :D

Every time i go to a bigger tournament i see new people with foil/russian/japanese/beta/blackboardered/whatever stormdecks and honestly, i really enjoy to play with and against those decks. For me these cards changed my playstyle and i think most of you will agree: I play more patiently and i reveal my ad nauseam cards pretty slowly because i enjoy every single shiny card among them.
End of Trashtalk.

#New Topic: A friend of mine who saw the pyromancer build asked me what i think about goblin rabblemaster against miracle control :DDDD
Still getting new ideas from different people about a new blowout sideboard against certain decks.

Hahahahahaahaah
I also spoke to some friends this week about it. I recomendet it to a friend for his dragon stompy. And then thought of ant. Problem i saw is u never get value 100% because with pyro u can make a gitaxian after him. And get 1 token. Good thing is that is a 4 turn clock with no investiment.
Not bad.

[Ancestral]

Most of the (experienced) Storm-players (TES/Ant) are in the habit to pimp their Decks for some reason - so do I :D

Every time i go to a bigger tournament i see new people with foil/russian/japanese/beta/blackboardered/whatever stormdecks and honestly, i really enjoy to play with and against those decks. For me these cards changed my playstyle and i think most of you will agree: I play more patiently and i reveal my ad nauseam cards pretty slowly because i enjoy every single shiny card among them.
End of Trashtalk.

#New Topic: A friend of mine who saw the pyromancer build asked me what i think about goblin rabblemaster against miracle control :DDDD
Still getting new ideas from different people about a new blowout sideboard against certain decks.

for sure, i have so much fun revealing my cards from ad nauseum :p i saw your deck too in prague eternal coverage, just awesome too!!

about rabblemaster, i guess it´s worth the testing at least but pyromancer seems better in general, and easy to cast, 1 less mana can make the difference :) just my 2 cents

[Shaman]

That makes sense. I edited my post accordingly.

I need to figure out the SB though. I feel like I always over SB.

I like 16 cantrips as well if not playing with Grinding Station.
I guess switching the fourth petal for a second PiF would be nice considering PiF becomes your G1 win conditioncondition (but tu tor chain).

I would be interested to see your SB pan :-)

[Ancestral]

I posted this on the storm boards but posting here to see what people think.

I've been wanting to make a list that has the most consistent/focused G1s and came up with the following (note the absence of Ad Naus and a 15th land):

Sorceries (25)
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Duress
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Infernal Tutor
1 Past in Flames
1 Tendrils of Agony

Instants (12)
4 Brainstorm
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual

Artifacts (8)
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond

Lands (15)
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
2 Island
1 Swamp

Sideboard (15)
3 Xantid Swarm
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Carpet of Flowers
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Krosan Grip
1 Empty the Warrens
2 Massacre
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Ad Nauseam


The Mainboard is streamlined and focused for a G1 PiF kill (with 16 cantrips, 16 fast mana, 7 discard/protection, 4 tutors, 1 engine, 1 win con) since I had previously found myself boarding out Ad Naus a lot in this heavy Burn/Delver meta. I think just going for PiF g1 and then SBing in Ad Naus for g2 adn g3 in the matchups you want it is probably a good idea right now.

in my opinion 16 cantrips are too much, i run 14 and still in some games i cantrip into cantrip, and find no buisness, and that´s pretty annoying ! so (as we comment before) if you want to cut ad nauseum main deck, i would recommend more buisness spells, like ETW or 2nd tendrils

[Zombie]

3 Sea 1 Island seems better than 2 Sea 2 Island.

[.Ix]

Played pretty much Togores' list in the last two locals and I'm 7-1 with it so far. In the first event, I played 4 Therapy 3 Duress 2 SDT. Went 3-1 losing to a seriously epic blunder. I beat UW Tempo, Burn twice, and lost to a heavily metagamed Death and Taxes/Stompy list with maindeck RIP/Helm, Tombs, and Chalice. The second Burn player cast Flame Rift turn 2 into my 8-storm hand and I almost felt bad for him while I stormed out.

In the second, I played 1 SDT 2 Preordain, but I often wanted SDT on the table so I'm going back to 2 SDT next time. I went 4-0 beating Elves, UR Delver, Mono black, and the same Death and Taxes list. I don't love the Bayou, but it really hasn't been bad, so I think I'll keep running it. It definitely helps in casting Decay in sideboard games, especially since a lot of people play Chalice around here. This deck is an absolute blast to play.

How do you guys sideboard against Xblade decks? I just board in 2 Chains of Vapor, removing 1 swamp and 1 preordain, but I'm not sure if that's correct. Most of their disruption comes from permanents and counterspells, and I think the deck is already good enough at beating counterspells with 7 discard.

[GoblinZ]

How do you guys sideboard against Xblade decks? I just board in 2 Chains of Vapor, removing 1 swamp and 1 preordain, but I'm not sure if that's correct. Most of their disruption comes from permanents and counterspells, and I think the deck is already good enough at beating counterspells with 7 discard.

deathblade usually plays 2 wasteland and “traditional” patriot featured by Bob Huang recently still plays full set of wasteland, I don't think you want to side out swamp in these mu. Generally speaking, you should side out your weakest mana source and cantrips first, since a lot of Xblade decks don't play daze, it is safe to side out a few lotus petals. Besides, I also consider decay to deal with their permanent hate such as meddling mage.

[davelin]

Played pretty much Togores' list in the last two locals and I'm 7-1 with it so far. In the first event, I played 4 Therapy 3 Duress 2 SDT. Went 3-1 losing to a seriously epic blunder. I beat UW Tempo, Burn twice, and lost to a heavily metagamed Death and Taxes/Stompy list with maindeck RIP/Helm, Tombs, and Chalice. The second Burn player cast Flame Rift turn 2 into my 8-storm hand and I almost felt bad for him while I stormed out.

In the second, I played 1 SDT 2 Preordain, but I often wanted SDT on the table so I'm going back to 2 SDT next time. I went 4-0 beating Elves, UR Delver, Mono black, and the same Death and Taxes list. I don't love the Bayou, but it really hasn't been bad, so I think I'll keep running it. It definitely helps in casting Decay in sideboard games, especially since a lot of people play Chalice around here. This deck is an absolute blast to play.

How do you guys sideboard against Xblade decks? I just board in 2 Chains of Vapor, removing 1 swamp and 1 preordain, but I'm not sure if that's correct. Most of their disruption comes from permanents and counterspells, and I think the deck is already good enough at beating counterspells with 7 discard.

Usually a chain and a Massacre with taking out two Preordains.

[.Ix]

Good points, guys, thanks. I knew my opponent was on straight esper without Wastelands so I knew I could cut Swamp. 1 chain 1-2 massacre does sound very solid. Worst case, Massacre buys a turn or two for no mana. Thanks!

[CabalTherapy]

I love how people don't evaluate card choices and copy Royce's list. Nothing can weaken his accomplishment but the fact that people are slamming Dark Confidant in the US again is hilarious. See SCG Richmond 13th place. Bob Maher is really a weak card in our SB.

[nevilshute]

Not to be pedantic, but I think Dark Confidant has been way more popular in US ANT sideboards before Royce Walter placed in the GP. For some reasons, storm pilots in the US just really like bob more than we Europeans.

[Ancestral]

but the only reason i saw to use bob now is for copying royce´s list lol that card now is simple not good in the current metagame in my opinion