[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[Quasim0ff]

you would be incorrect, there seems to be a somewhat positive trend. look for yourself.

GP Strasbourg (13/04/2013) - Number of Players : 1365

GP Washington D.C. (16/11/2013) - Number of Players : 1698

GP Paris (15/02/2014) - Number of Players : 1587

GP New Jersey (15/11/2014) - Number of Players : 4003


Why was GP NJ attended 2-3 times more than others?

Because it was hosted by SCG. SCG usually presents a shitton more content at their GPs than regular GPs does.

[Mr.C]

you would be incorrect, there seems to be a somewhat positive trend. look for yourself.

GP Strasbourg (13/04/2013) - Number of Players : 1365

GP Washington D.C. (16/11/2013) - Number of Players : 1698

GP Paris (15/02/2014) - Number of Players : 1587

GP New Jersey (15/11/2014) - Number of Players : 4003


Why was GP NJ attended 2-3 times more than others?

Because SCG marketed the hell out of it. 1400-1700-1600 seems pretty stagnant to me. Nevertheless, prices on top Legacy cards have fallen 15-50% since the beginning of the year, after a few years of growth. That also does not indicate a growing format.

[Barook]

Nevertheless, prices on top Legacy cards have fallen 15-50% since the beginning of the year, after a few years of growth. That also does not indicate a growing format.

In the end, the card pool IS limited.

The price push earlier was downright retarded due to speculators/SCG/etc. pushing the prices to new heights. What we witness now is prices going back to normal.

[bruizar]

Short the magic market

[H]

Anyone know why the price on Chalice of the Void is on the rise? People just trying to spike it?

[apple713]

Anyone know why the price on Chalice of the Void is on the rise? People just trying to spike it?

cause an ever increasing # of legacy decks run too many 1 cmc spells.

[Hopo]

Anyone know why the price on Chalice of the Void is on the rise? People just trying to spike it?

Some Modern deck recently, I read.

[H]

Some Modern deck recently, I read.

I figured it was probably Modern really driving it. My guess was to fight Jeskai Ascendancy decks.

[apple713]

I figured it was probably Modern really driving it. My guess was to fight Jeskai Ascendancy decks.

read about it here

[H]

read about it here

Thanks, that was actually the site I wanted to look it up on but couldn't remember the name.

[kiblast]

What do you guys think about the possibility of Dig Through Time increasing its price, possibly doubling it in the next few months? Cmon, the card is busted and it costs 7 euros, 25 foil. Snapcasters were available for 15/45 foil for a long time then they skyrocketed to 30/140 foil, they are a staple in various formats, that's true, but DTT is almost as good as Snapcaster, and they are both depending on your graveyard.
Opinions?

[iamajellydonut]

Dig Through Time is also a promo and has not made as much of an impact. Hype and similar concepts, or lack of them, can have a very noticeable effect on value. In fact, they're the sole driving factor on a significant portion of the market. There are only a few cards that don't have their price at least partially dictated by player perception and instead rely solely on demand, and almost all of them are Vintage cards or sideboard cards.

[apple713]

Dig Through Time is also a promo and has not made as much of an impact. Hype and similar concepts, or lack of them, can have a very noticeable effect on value. In fact, they're the sole driving factor on a significant portion of the market. There are only a few cards that don't have their price at least partially dictated by player perception and instead rely solely on demand, and almost all of them are Vintage cards or sideboard cards.

thats true, cards that are seeing play in vintage are likely to have increased value to do cross format demand

[iamajellydonut]

thats true, cards that are seeing play in vintage are likely to have increased value to do cross format demand

No. Null Rod, Hurkyl's Recall, and Trinisphere are what I was referring to.

[kiblast]

Dig Through Time is also a promo and has not made as much of an impact. Hype and similar concepts, or lack of them, can have a very noticeable effect on value. In fact, they're the sole driving factor on a significant portion of the market. There are only a few cards that don't have their price at least partially dictated by player perception and instead rely solely on demand, and almost all of them are Vintage cards or sideboard cards.

Have you ever resolved it in a legacy or modern game? this spell is not hyped. Maybe is going to revitalize Spiral Tide in legacy, made non miracle control decks viable, and some modern decks are back on the map thanks to this card (Scapeshift). I think it has tons of potential, and is going to be played in every format.

[mini1337s]

MTGstocks is such a self-fulfilling circle jerk. Now that it's updated less frequently, it's not so bad, but you can still manipulate the market on jank and make money off desperation buyers. It's sad really; you can make significant market movements with about $200 of liquid cash, that can easily multiply 5-10 times.

I've really given up in trying to make sense of the market anymore. Bunch of self-fulfilling prophets who read a Wikipedia article and act like they have a finance major.

[kiblast]

MTGstocks is such a self-fulfilling circle jerk. Now that it's updated less frequently, it's not so bad, but you can still manipulate the market on jank and make money off desperation buyers. It's sad really; you can make significant market movements with about $200 of liquid cash, that can easily multiply 5-10 times.

I've really given up in trying to make sense of the market anymore. Bunch of self-fulfilling prophets who read a Wikipedia article and act like they have a finance major.

Mini, sorry if I hurt your sensibility. Was just asking if I should absolutely get my foil set now, or I have time available. Also if the general consensus is that it's going to raise, I'd get the booster foil (so when I cash out in the future I have a better return).
I know right? People asking about price trends in the ''[Official] Bitching About Prices and Reprints Thread''. Absurd.

[Lord Seth]

Have you ever resolved it in a legacy or modern game? this spell is not hyped. Maybe is going to revitalize Spiral Tide in legacy, made non miracle control decks viable, and some modern decks are back on the map thanks to this card (Scapeshift). I think it has tons of potential, and is going to be played in every format.

Don't think Dig Through Time will be particularly great in Spiral Tide because of its anti-synergy with Time Spiral; the deck wants cards to stay in the graveyard so Time Spiral can return them to the library. Admittedly, it would have no problem exiling some lands to give it a higher shot of drawing fuel after a Time Spiral, but that by itself isn't enough to really fuel Dig Through Time.

Reset Tide (a.k.a. Solidarity) might be interested in it, though. Outside of Snapcaster Mage, it doesn't really do much with its graveyard, so Dig Through Time could be a way to get something out of its ability to put a lot of cards in its graveyard when going off.

[Megadeus]

There was a man at the top tables last weekend in Atlanta playing Reset Tide

[Lemnear]

Don't think Dig Through Time will be particularly great in Spiral Tide because of its anti-synergy with Time Spiral; the deck wants cards to stay in the graveyard so Time Spiral can return them to the library. Admittedly, it would have no problem exiling some lands to give it a higher shot of drawing fuel after a Time Spiral, but that by itself isn't enough to really fuel Dig Through Time.

Reset Tide (a.k.a. Solidarity) might be interested in it, though. Outside of Snapcaster Mage, it doesn't really do much with its graveyard, so Dig Through Time could be a way to get something out of its ability to put a lot of cards in its graveyard when going off.

you absolutely want to remove stuff like Fetchlands and jank from your graveyard before casting Spiral and second, you can be very selective about removing cards as paying 3-4 mana isn't THAT unreasonable in that deck to get hands on a Spiral or other untappers.