Fate Reforged Thread

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I think that it's an interesting card with a unique effect.

[TsumiBand]

Just when I thought they're done printing annoying creatures like Ninja of the Deep Hours.

Yeah no, Jeskai Infiltrator fucking wishes he were Ninja of the Deep Hours, but he is not.

It *is* an interesting effect to be sure, but I don't see it really being a BFD.

[maharis]

It's kind of a red Phyrexian Arena. Under the radar, but could help some decks out there.

[iamajellydonut]

It's kind of a red Phyrexian Arena.

Chandra already exists with this exact ability. And she's terrible.

[maharis]

Chandra can be attacked, and if you want to use her +, you don't get the card.

This card is a draw engine on its own and a breakable draw engine with any number of library manipulators in Legacy. It could make some noise.

[Star|Scream]

Chandra can be attacked, and if you want to use her +, you don't get the card.

This card is a draw engine on its own and a breakable draw engine with any number of library manipulators in Legacy. It could make some noise.

Huh? How is it breakable?

[rufus]

Isn't it kind of a shitty Goblin Lackey though? Like, it has Awesome and all, but... just being able to make a 2/2 every other turn or so (you have to pay its "not Morph cost" to reflip it) while operating under 3Sphere seems like a tough row to hoe. Even for Blue.

It's not competitive anymore, but Sea Drake and Serendib Efreet were cards for a while. You play this guy for face-up, and, unless they answer, you get 4 power. Maybe even ride him home with Trinisphere or Chalice of the Void @ 1.

[FoolofaTook]

Yeah no, Jeskai Infiltrator fucking wishes he were Ninja of the Deep Hours, but he is not.

It *is* an interesting effect to be sure, but I don't see it really being a BFD.

I think he's going to be a big deal, even in Legacy. A free 2/2 off of an unblockable creature is going to create some nice options for mid-range. Obviously there are some cards he will work really well with, like Phyrexian Dreadnought and Cabal Therapy but really just having the chump block plus unblockable damage will be good in top deck mode.

I don't think he's going to be a game-breaking card but I think he'll find a list or two that makes him nasty.

[Cire]

I think he's going to be a big deal, even in Legacy. A free 2/2 off of an unblockable creature is going to create some nice options for mid-range. Obviously there are some cards he will work really well with, like Phyrexian Dreadnought and Cabal Therapy but really just having the chump block plus unblockable damage will be good in top deck mode.

I don't think he's going to be a game-breaking card but I think he'll find a list or two that makes him nasty.

He is no longer unblock-able when he makes the 2/2, even if you flip him over again.

[iamajellydonut]

Chandra ... if you want to use her +, you don't get the card.

And if you choose "Dragons" you don't get the card either. What's your point?

[Rizso]

Chandra already exists with this exact ability. And she's terrible.

Chandra might no be played much in legacy outside of painterdecks but in standard and in modern she is quite powerful.

[thecrav]

Young Pyro that poops out nearly-Swiftspears for the same combined CMC? I'm definitely interested.

[lordofthepit]

Young Pyro that poops out nearly-Swiftspears for the same combined CMC? I'm definitely interested.

I hate R&D for making this card.

Turn 3 fantasy land: This card, Probe, Probe, Probe, Petal, Concordant Crossroads. Swing for 7 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 22.

[Rizso]

Monastery Mentor looks like a quite a card especially if playing with Tops and/or Probes / Therapy in the deck.

[thecrav]

I hate R&D for making this card.

Turn 3 fantasy land: This card, Probe, Probe, Probe, Petal, Concordant Crossroads. Swing for 7 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 22.

While we're in fantasy land, why is it turn 3? We're playing Lotus Petal because it triggers the ability, right?

[lordofthepit]

While we're in fantasy land, why is it turn 3? We're playing Lotus Petal because it triggers the ability, right?

I just wanted to illustrate how fast of a clock this could put on by itself.

[Barook]

So that card turned out to be true after being spoiled a while ago?

Hard to say how the extra mana (and off-color? ) is going affect its playability compared to YP since it has a stronger body and stronger, potentially more resiliant tokens. I wouldn't be suprised if we see come kind of UWR shell which runs both Monastery Mentor and Young Pyromancer.

Looks like the powerlevel of Fate Reforged is going to be pretty decent, although I hate how all interesting cards are essentially tailor-made for blue-based shells, with Grandmaster maybe going into some kind of RW Burn deck.

[Sylphnir]

Looks like the new year starts kinda expensive for white players of all formats.

[Wanderlust]

Helm of Awakening + Top + Top + Monastery Mentor could be worth looking at. Obviously Altar of the Brood is cheaper, but Monastery Mentor is really good outside of the combo. Monastery Mentor can also be cast off of Cavern of Souls.

[Jamaican Zombie Legend]

Why in the hell is Monastery Mentor mythic?

He's very good, but not back-breaking in Limited and he's not all that big/complex. Seems like this set's Voice of Resurgence. Can't wait to hear Wizard's excuse this time...