[DTK] Dragons of Tarkir spoiler thread

[HdH_Cthulhu]

I wish this guy would be a 3/3 at 1WW, I really like the design, but at 4cc he is unplayable.

[MD.Ghost]

Correct on the Nishoba. And it's worth noting that there are ways to gain life outside of lifelink.

Anyway, as I noted earlier in the thread, the other CIP "fight" creature is Gruul Ragebeast. It has been around for over two years now and nobody has cared. Nor have they cared about the numerous other green creatures able to kill other creatures that have been printed through the years.

Because Elves don't need the "fight" stuff; if "fight" would be able to kill Grisel & Emrakul, than maybe "ok". It would be nice to see a green (+Splash) "Vindicate" Creature (Ashen Rider), but i think this reserved for WB as a unique effect.

Lets see how the RG Dragonmother is designed, but don't hope for it, i think we get a meaningless big monster for about 7-9 mana.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Megamorph is even dumber. . .

Megamorph. Ultramorph! MONSTERMORPH! RAMPAGE!!!

[Lemnear]

Because Elves don't need the "fight" stuff; if "fight" would be able to kill Grisel & Emrakul, than maybe "ok". It would be nice to see a green (+Splash) "Vindicate" Creature (Ashen Rider), but i think this reserved for WB as a unique effect.

Lets see how the RG Dragonmother is designed, but don't hope for it, i think we get a meaningless big monster for about 7-9 mana.

I feel this is basically a rehashed discussion about Regal Force lately in the Elves Thread with the unanswered counter-question on why the card has fallen from grace, simply put as "Why run Regal/green random fatty, if you can kill your opponent with Craterhoof instead?"

[Sloshthedark]

Megamorph. Ultramorph! MONSTERMORPH! RAMPAGE!!!

[phonics]

I wish this guy would be a 3/3 at 1WW, I really like the design, but at 4cc he is unplayable.

He seems really underwhelming, like he should at least have prowess on top of what he has at least.

[Echelon]

I feel this is basically a rehashed discussion about Regal Force lately in the Elves Thread with the unanswered counter-question on why the card has fallen from grace, simply put as "Why run Regal/green random fatty, if you can kill your opponent with Craterhoof instead?"

Well, why not run something if you can GSZ/NO for it?

[MD.Ghost]

I feel this is basically a rehashed discussion about Regal Force lately in the Elves Thread with the unanswered counter-question on why the card has fallen from grace, simply put as "Why run Regal/green random fatty, if you can kill your opponent with Craterhoof instead?"

True, between Craterhoof, Progenitus and Ruric it feels that most edges are already covered with a really powerfull solution. If needed Worldspine Wurm also works nice against Show&Tell. I can only see a new fatty, if it combines one of the unique effects from the cards above. A fatty alone (see, what i expect from the RB Dragon-Mom) is not enough, if you can instantly kill with Craterhoof (and the Dragon will not get haste...), or get simply a very resilient and fast enough clock: Progenitus (and some builds even cutted the hydra, because it isn't needed in most cases).

[Finn]

I wish this guy would be a 3/3 at 1WW, I really like the design, but at 4cc he is unplayable.

I dunno. As it is, this creature is fairly hard to deal with. If I have this guy out and a deck stocked with instants, you might get lucky. But then, your first try to kill it might be your last good chance. It is out of bolt range, and you can't really chump a first-striker. It can tap would-be attackers and has lifelink anyway. I see this fellow keeping a lot of an opponent's resources at bay while getting a Standard control or midrange deck way out ahead in just a few turns. And that is what Standard is all about. Considering Narset wants the same kind of deck, I can see this being a powerful protector for her that also wins the game. It's a megarare too, so I see this guy making waves.

[iamajellydonut]

Bitches don't dodge Liliana.

[T-101]

Because Elves don't need the "fight" stuff; if "fight" would be able to kill Grisel & Emrakul, than maybe "ok". It would be nice to see a green (+Splash) "Vindicate" Creature (Ashen Rider), but i think this reserved for WB as a unique effect.

Lets see how the RG Dragonmother is designed, but don't hope for it, i think we get a meaningless big monster for about 7-9 mana.

That sure would be cool, but I think Wizards has to play it pretty carefully. Because GSZ and NO exist, they just can't print green creatures that have abilities like that.

This is Green we're talking about after all, not Blue.

[FoolofaTook]

I wish this guy would be a 3/3 at 1WW, I really like the design, but at 4cc he is unplayable.

This is going to go out of control in Standard alongside Monastery Mentor, which will produce another of those $75 cards and pissed off Standards just like the Jace Cawblade fiasco in 2010.

[Humphrey]

Because Elves don't need the "fight" stuff; if "fight" would be able to kill Grisel & Emrakul, than maybe "ok". It would be nice to see a green (+Splash) "Vindicate" Creature (Ashen Rider), but i think this reserved for WB as a unique effect.

Lets see how the RG Dragonmother is designed, but don't hope for it, i think we get a meaningless big monster for about 7-9 mana.

fight + deathtouch sounds reasonable

[Barook]

fight + deathtouch sounds reasonable

Damn shame Mortal Combat is already a card.

That sure would be cool, but I think Wizards has to play it pretty carefully. Because GSZ and NO exist, they just can't print green creatures that have abilities like that.

This is Green we're talking about after all, not Blue.

Like Wizards gives two shits about Eternal-only cards.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

This is going to go out of control in Standard alongside Monastery Mentor, which will produce another of those $75 cards and pissed off Standards just like the Jace Cawblade fiasco in 2010.

But in standard they dont have Brainstorm and Stp... They dont even have Path to Exile, so maybe Modern?

[T-101]

This is going to go out of control in Standard alongside Monastery Mentor, which will produce another of those $75 cards and pissed off Standards just like the Jace Cawblade fiasco in 2010.

Phyrexian Brainstorm in the last core set plz.

[Cire]

Shorecrasher Elemental UUU
Creature - Elemental
U: Exile Shorecrasher Elemental, then return it to the battlefield face down under its owner's control.
1: Shorecrasher Elemental gets +1/-1 or -1/+1 until end of turn.
Megamorph 4U (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up at any time for its megamorph cost and put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
3/3

Mini Morphling?

[iamajellydonut]

Shorecrasher Elemental UUU
Creature - Elemental
U: Exile Shorecrasher Elemental, then return it to the battlefield face down under its owner's control.
1: Shorecrasher Elemental gets +1/-1 or -1/+1 until end of turn.
Megamorph 4U (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up at any time for its megamorph cost and put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
3/3

Mini Morphling?

Isn't it basically just an overcosted True-Name Nemesis?

[Sylphnir]

Atarka was spoiled, but is nothing more than a slightly bigger Bogardan Hellkite without flash that can't hit players.

[Picture]
Dragonlord Atarka
Legendary Creature - Elder Dragon (Mythic)
Flying, Trample
When Dragonlord Atarka enters the battlefield, it deals 5 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures and/or planeswalkers your opponents control.
8/8

This whole cycle is quite forgettable imo.

[T-101]

I guess Lemnear should throw Atarka into the heap of "new, and possibly sweet GSZ/NO targets."