Hmm......Originally Posted by Barook
If you are the red splash, Red Elemental Blasts come to mind. And for mono-white, Oblivion Ring?
I guess the worry is even if you have the O-Ring for the Show and tell'd Omniscience they could have Cunning Wish. Hopefully Thalia stops that and perhaps Canonist could help there too. I'm in the same boat with my sideboard, wondering what to do.
Canonist can buy a turn or two. Could always try out black and taxes ;)
I'm also really interested in ways to improve the Omni matchup as mono-W. My sideboard stuff to bring in is: 1x O-ring, 1x disenchant, 3x canonist (maybe 1 councils judgment?). I'm running a one-of Spirit of the Labyrinth in the main too. I don't really feel very good about the matchup but will admit to having not played against it enough to really tell.
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You should always bring in Council's Judgement as Flickerwisp buys a turn and then you get to Council away the Omniscience if you're lucky.
Right. Marc, what are your feelings about playing D&T in the coming months (read: GP-Lille) if the trend continues and Omni is everywhere?
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The most important hatebear vs Omni is Canonist but to be effective it require an other card like:
- Oblivion Ring,
- Disenchant,
- Council's Judgement
Best here vs Omni will be Oblivion Ring.
if Canonist on table, they can't answer oblivion ring trigger, or disenchant etc, wtihout her on table they goes crazy in respond to trigger / spell like casting 3 x DTT, then just Cunning for trickbind/counter or even Cunning for direct kill after brainstorming some overcosted spell, then killing by Ants in respond.
similar role to Canoninist have Thalia with taxing each spell - but look if they have more mana open.
If Omni/Elves get more popular we can always playing full set of Canonist.
Well I will be playing it for sure. I'm gonna go up to 4 Canonists though. That should be enough to tip the match up a lot in our favour.
I will be playing the red splash and I might try out Red Elemental Blast, although I would rather fight omni and other combo decks with problem permanents. I will test Leonin Relic warder soon.
Question: did you guys ever test Jotun Grunt as a 1-of or 2-of in this deck? What's the consensus on this guy?
I've been testing him a little bit here and there and I've found that if you play him in small quantities he can be pretty solid. He shrinks the graveyard for Tarmogoyfs, and he shrinks the graveyard for Dig Through Time. You can't play him as more than a 2-of because his upkeep cost is so demanding, but mid-game and on he can just basically be a 4/4 for 1W that helps make Tarmogoyfs and DTTs less efficient...
Yup, he was a staple for years: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/t...eath-and-taxes
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Ok so, why is he not played anymore? Seems really solid as a 2-of right now with Tarmogoyf and Dig Through Time running rampant...
The reason he was dropped, IIRC, was because his disruption was too slow for dedicated graveyard strategies like Reanimator, compared to newer printings like Wheel of Sun and Moon and Grafdigger's Cage (and more recently Rest in Peace). At the same time, we got better beef in the form of Batterskull and Mirran Crusader (and more recently Brimaz).
What would you/did you take out for him? Has the meta shifted so far into soft reliance on yards that Grunt is once again better than Mirran Crusader in the main? If I'm facing Goyfs I think I'd rather just double strike to the dome with Mirran Crusader and equipment while dodging Abrupt Decay. But I haven't tested it, so that's just a guess. :)
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He is not good enough.
Was maybe thinking of trying relic warder in the board again of the rw version for the omni tell and a hand full of other match ups as he can be tutored by recruiter.
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I think that's a good idea. I'm gonna test it as well, just didn't get around to it yet.
Since switching over to the rw version, i've been wanting to cut the tutors in the board for maybe some more creatures to get with recruiter, is that fine or does it just depend on how much combo you expect.
It seems fine, I have cut tutors a while ago. And gone to 4 Ethersworn Canonist 3 Rest in Peace among other things.
Four canonist sounds crazy, though I guess its making up for not having the tutors
4 Canonists is not that crazy without tutors. Especially given how big omnitell is/is going to be in the meta from now on. And it is really our most effective card against them.
Which Aether Vial suits Death and Taxes more? Darksteel or Modern Masters?
Well they are quite similar. I like them both but I'm sticking to Foil Darksteel Ęther Vial, since my rule for how my deck should look is that it should be original series/art and foil.
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