THE MANA LEAK OPEN 1, Stratford, CT., September 3, 2006

[Peter_Rotten]

Details? MUST. HAVE. DETAILS.

edit: No, no, no, no. Please don't tell me two reanimator decks made it to T8. Extra frowny face. At least UG Madness went 2-2.

[Ebinsugewa]

Details? MUST. HAVE. DETAILS.

edit: No, no, no, no. Please don't tell me two reanimator decks made it to T8. Extra frowny face. At least UG Madness went 2-2.

Yeah, I forgot to put that in my slops.
Nightmare t8'ed, that's the only name I recognized besides Feinstein. Then we left.

[Fortifitakitors]

Stuff from the mana drain site

More
Dave Feinstein is (RG Beats)
Nick Cagly (sp) (Affinity)
Vial Goblins is in (made finals)
UGRW Threshold T8ed and lost to Goblins
Two Reanimator decks made it (unsure whether they were Orlove style or traditional), one of them was Ashok (The Method)

Zero IGG or High Tide T8ed
Zero Tendrils decks make it

A small percentage of Goblins decks


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So a Vial Goblins made the finals

1st ?
2nd Goblins
3rd UGRW Thresh?
4th Dave Feistein?
5th Reanimator
6th Mr. Nightmare?
7th ?
8th Reanimator?

Sketcky information, hmm ambiguous.

[Peter_Rotten]

I'll say again... Reanimator? UGH! What did it do against a format running StP? A deck that runs a free Planar Void main? Counterspells? Ugh. Legacy, you make me shed a tear.

[Fortifitakitors]

I think I know why it top 8'ed (ReAnimator)

1. Nobody was expecting it.
2. Simic Sky Swallower is nearly unstoppable when on the field,
Simic Sky Swallower 7cc
Flying, Trample
Can't Be the target of spells or abilities
6/6

I am willing to bet no one had side board tech for game two of a match to get rid of the then unstoppable Simic Sky Swallower.


Plus there are two Reanimate like cards, Reanimate and a split card from Apocalypse which is 2cc

[Anusien]

Animate Dead can bring back Akroma.

Also, anyone remember Zombie Infestation? Beats StP a lot.

[Di]

This tournament sucked. Getting lost on the way home sucked. Rick getting a ticket sucked. Then I got a fucking ticket a minute after I got in my car. What the fuck.

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck everyone.

[FireAndIce]

also reanimator players happen to be inherently lucky. round 6 im playing for top 8 with ugw thresh against a reanimator deck with rituals, putrid imps, reanimation cards, duress, therapy, and big guys. i win game 1 cause im savage. game 2 i misboard and he chokes me out. game 3 i have gas but so does he. i have double daze double counterspell and a fow. i daze his imp. i daze the exhume on his imp. i let the therapy on himself resolve. i fow an exhume pitching c-spell (i played a dude). next turn i c-spell the reanimation spell he cast the next turn and make another dude. he draws reanimate and brings back bringer of the blue dawn. i proceed to draw 16 out of 17 lands and 0 STPs. he draws nothing off blue bringer except chokes and braids which do nothing. im sitting patiently and i draw nothing :( eventually blazing archon ends it. i still havent drawn a swords and im about 43 cards in. :(

[Moby Dick]

LOL, I would have owed top 8 with my md furnaces, reanimator, lol.

lets see, thresh,gobs,reanimator < my furnaces, darkblasts,plagues,huge critters

[Ebinsugewa]

LOL, I would have owed top 8 with my md furnaces, reanimator, lol.

lets see, thresh,gobs,reanimator < my furnaces, darkblasts,plagues,huge critters

I'm not sure how they snuck past Legacy, as far as I know, there were only two Reanimators in the whole (105?) field. If I had played one, Burning Wish for Edict ftw. People seriously undervalue non-targeted removal in this format still.

[Artowis]

I'll say again... Reanimator? UGH! What did it do against a format running StP? A deck that runs a free Planar Void main? Counterspells? Ugh. Legacy, you make me shed a tear.

Probably laughing at the fact that STP doesn't touch SSS or even last against Duress/Therapy. As for Counterspells, I'm reasonably sure 8-10 reanimate effects, Discard and ZI are good answers to that. Good control may smash Reanimator, but Thresh doesn't fall under that category. ;o

Besides it didn't win so feel safe!

I'm shocked you aren't already on the 'zomg affinity teh sux0rz!, how did that T8!'.

[rodgon666]

see... i told you guys SD people would bring home some of the mula!

i can see that people have no apreciation for decks that arent supposively tier one.
and quite frankly your ignorance is backed up by nothing. i didnt see any...not ONE solidarity deck in the top 8, and yet you see two reanimator decks ( one black/ blue much like the extended version... and then my version black/ green.) but yet it doesnt seem like you guys take it into concideration as a deck to beat.. even though only 2 reanimator decks showed up... and two made it to the finals....and solidarity is a deck to beat? i mean it even made more entries to the top 8 then goblins!!!

WAKE UP !!!

these decks are actually getting to the point that they are competitive enough to rape Goblins...race Solidarity and have an even match agaisnt grow! you might keep on closing the discussions about the decks and lock threads just because they arent like the ones your friends top 8 with... but as of now my version of the deck has as much respectability as the one orlove did. It took me having to play in a tourney on the other side of the country ( which i was extremely happy to find on my vacations to boston).

people that saw me play the deck can give you input into how it played, and if no one does my standings should be sufficient.

I beat:

1- goblin

2- W/G/U grow ( and lost to one in the top 8. i salute you mister nightmare!)

1- and an easy match against Shuffle Truffle.


( arent those supposively the tier 1 decks according to your forums??? mmm... perhaps a deck that beats all those should be concidered huh?)

oh yeah mister FireAndIce...

i hear choke is great against grow... and i also last time i heard... you need white to cast swords...( which you didnt have! DUE TO THE CHOKE!!! so stop complaining at that point there was absolutely nothing you could do. but since my deck wasnt tier 1 i guess i just got lucky huh?)

[Artowis]

even though only 2 reanimator decks showed up...

This isn't actually accurate, I know at least Ben Kowal was playing a BUR Reanimator deck and he got knocked out after round 6 by Osyp. His first loss was to lucky mc lucksack angel stompy played who managed trip plow, dubs crypt and his only seal of cleansing in the deck.

[rodgon666]

ok. my bad, perhaps three. the point still stands. an dis irrelevant if one or two more showed up.

out of all the reanimator decks out there ( even if there were 3 or 4 or even 5... which i doubt) 50 % at least went to top 8. what percentage of goblins? Grow? Solidarity?

yeah... not even close.

point proven!

[JeremM]

I'm interested in the Faerie Stompy decklist that T8ed, as it supposedly ran 3Spheres in addition to CotV. It might be the card needed for the deck to finally make the jump to Tier 1, or it could just be redundant with the Chalices.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Actually, I was the one that knocked Kowal out of contention 2-0 with Orlove style Zianimator. Rodrigo's build was much, much different, runnin more like a straight up reanimator deck with a few utility elements. I have no idea what it's matchups are like in general, but it felt like a brutal fucking beating playing against it with Truffle Shuffle. Of course, both of the games I lost he managed to have one of his two one-of fatties that wreck me in hand, Sundering Titan and completely effing topdecked SSS for the win g3.


rodgon, just some advice, leave defending your petdeck to someone that can type and form coherent arguments. I'm willing to talk about reanimator's possible viability, but saying it did well once, making all the previous times it's scrubbed out irrelevant is kinda bullshit.

Anyway, yeah, there were two Gro and two Goblin lists in the top 8, I believe, with Nightmare taking second. I couldn't draw last round x-1 due to tiebreakers and too many people, so I had to get my face crushed by the aforementioned reanimator deck. It was the only matchup I should've actually lost all day, though, I threw away my match against Mr. Nightmare.

Hey, wait, he still owes me a pack.

I'm also still dissapointed at the lack of coverage of my match vs. Roland Chang. Like, what, we don't cover the feature match of the century anymore?

[Lukas Preuss]

Where are all the feature match coverages?

I really want to read about this great tournament. :D

[Peter_Rotten]

Pulled off of TML and made easy on the eyes:

The top 8 was at follows:

2 Threshold (both RUG)
2 Reanimator
1 Goblins (Rw)
1 Faiery Stompy (Trinisphere, Juggernaut over Sea Sprite)
1 Affinity
1 RG Beats

MATCHES:

Quarters:

Threshold beats Reanimator (ashok)
Affinity beats Reanimator
Goblins beats Threshold
Faery stompy beats RG Beats

Semis:

Goblins beats Affinity
Threshold beats FaeryStompy

Finals:

Goblins beats Threshold.

Of note was zero combo making top 8. Not much iggy showed, but good players were piloting it, such as osyp. It didn't appear to go deep. Solidarity on the other hand was plentiful. The guy credited with creating it (gerhardt?) top 16'd. Decent amount of madness showed, including Roland, but it did not hold up late in the tournament.

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I'm back and like to point out some info. Decent amount of madness showed but it did not hold up late in the tournament. I wonder why?

[Bane of the Living]

Maybe now that Solidarity hasnt put anyone into top 8 in the past 2 tournies we can stop whispering about it being the iron giant. Every deck can be beat. Im interested in hearing how things went with proxies. Who used em? Was it fair? Anyone see an excessive amount of shit like Chains of Meph or Moats?

[Peter_Rotten]

Maybe now that Solidarity hasnt put anyone into top 8 in the past 2 tournies we can stop whispering about it being the iron giant. Every deck can be beat.

But please note, that it did T16. I'd be interested in seeing the other 7 decks in T16 also. That information holds some value also.

I'm interested in hearing how things went with proxies. Who used em? Was it fair? Anyone see an excessive amount of shit like Chains of Meph or Moats?

Ditto. I wonder if proxies really changed anything. Looking at the T8, I doubt that there were many proxies except possibly some Duals. Maybe Faery Stompy ran proxies of Sea Drake.