there's a card to answer every card....this is similar to the "it does to removal argument"Originally Posted by Adan
if you play it right, they would be using quite a bit of resources (they have no library manipulation) to get the 4 decays.
Dark Confidant??? Sylvan Library??? Oh, and Kolaghan's Command will see play as well, I'm pretty sure about that. So why should Pithing Needle be any good? It's a poor answer. Spell Pierce is better, it's also one of the best cards to have against Jund. Other than that, your own Abrupt Decays are still the best out. Even Hero's Downfall would be a better card than Needle for that matchup.
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<Der_imaginäre_Freund> props:
Adan for being the NQG God (drawer)
alright. whatever
Yep. Winter Orb is great right now. It's actually pretty good against Grixis in addition to everything else - they need to tap out a lot to Dig and make tokens, letting us maximize Daze, leverage Deathrite, and take advantage of the fact that our cards are better than theirs when they don't get to reload as often.Yeah, I play it too. In fact, apparently Joe Lossett was complaining on his stream about me playing it versus him (or so someone told me)
I also like it versus 12 Post, or whatever people call that deck now-a-days.
Also, when did you play Lossett? I'd like to see the video.
I played him at the last SCG Dallas PIQ. We ended up drawing, I won a grinding game 1, he won a grinding game 2 as we went to extra turns. I ended up 2-0-1 versus Miracles that day, finishing 5-2-1 with losses to UR Delver and a hard luck loss to RUG.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Sorry - I thought you meant it was on MTGO. Rough beats with RUG though.
Unfortunately all I own is paper (or maybe fortunately? haha) so no videos exist of me playing. My games versus Miracles are very grinding, as I almost never play more than one creature at a time. This makes every game take forever. My plan is also to lock down Top, one way or another though. Their deck is not great when they don't have access to Top.
I've found though that recently, while I have been successful versus Miracles, my record versus RUG has been bad. In that match, I won a long game one, then lost a quick game two and three, each time to a bevvy of Stifles, Wastlands, Dazes, and quick flipped Delvers.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
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I split/won Legacy at my LGS last night. You can see my previous list here: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...l=1#post881989 I have made one change from that list, and it is -1 Hymn to Tourach and +1 Thoughtseize. My though process being that Hymn is very often clunky and hard to sequence effectively and that 'Seize gives you a bit more flexibility in the early turns and the information.
Round 1 - Omnishow - [2-0]
A combination of Delver, discard, and counter magic wins me game one. I board -2 Abrupt Decay, -3 Daze, +1 Surgical Extraction, +1 Flusterstorm, +1 Thoughtseize, +1 Echoing Truth, +1 Vendilion Clique. I should have boarded another Decay out for the Krosan Grip. Thought process being, I don't want to be cold to something stupid like Blood Moon or Ensnaring Bridge. I think with a Decay, a Lili, and a Grip you should be good for the 2-3 copies of these items that they could bring in. Game two was very sketchy. I have a hand full of counter magic that is quickly invalidated by a Boseiju, Who Shelters All. Luckily, I Brainstorm into some discard which buys me time. On my opponent's turn before my lethal attack, he casts and uncounterable Show and Tell. He puts Omni into play and I put a Deathrite into play. He has two open mana and my hand/board are three untapped lands, Spell Pierce, Flusterstorm, Daze, Force of Will, Brainstorm, and Echoing Truth. He casts a Brainstorm for free, which I Flusterstorm. He pays for two tapping out and casts a Spell Pierce to counter the last copy. I then Echoing Truth the Omni with both Daze and FoW back up. He concedes. The match up felt fine you just have to keep your interaction up.
Round 2 - Bant Infect - [2-0]
I have Delver into removal spells game one. Sideboard -1 Thoughtseize, -2 Hymn to Tourach, -1 Dimir Charm, -3 Daze; +1 Flusterstorm, +2 Disfigure, +2 Golgari Charm, +1 Sylvan Library, +1 Murderous Cut. There might be some logic to leaving in a second Daze. Keeping Infect creatures off the table is important and Daze is a great way to do while still being proactive. I am interested in your guys' thoughts here. How would you board? Game two sees two of my Delvers getting StPed while he gets me to 6 poison before I take him off of creatures. I finish him off with a pair of Goyfs in play and a pair of FoW in hand.
Round 3 - ID - [0-0-3]
I end up first which was good for a bunch of store credit. Deck feels great. I may give the Dark Confidant heavy version a try here in the next few weeks. I cast Tasigur once and it would have been fine/better as a Bob or a Goyf. The sideboard always leaves me wondering what I could be doing differently. There were a few (2-I think) Miracles decks in the room; however, I didn't get paired against them. I am wondering about Garruk Relentless for the Miracles and slow/fair match ups. I am very back and forth on the three grave hate cards. Weeks where I play Dredge, Oops All Spells, or Reanimator I am very glad that I have them. Yet there was one graveyard (Oops All Spells) deck in the room this week, so it might be fine to shave one slot to test another card. Overall I am very happy with the deck... it always comes down to tuning the last 2-4 slots in the maindeck and a few slots in the sideboard. Anyway, thanks for reading and let me know what you think about my boarding for the matches listed.
Legacy
Grixis Delver
Vintage
Mono Mentor
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What is our best approach to beating Goblins. Mono red, plays Blood Moon main. Seems bad for us.
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Win rounds 1, 2, and 3. I don't think we're likely to beat a tribal swarm deck with MD Blood Moon without spending board slots we need for more common opponents. If it's an LGS thing, then either maindeck a Golgari Charm since it kills most Goblins and Moon or maybe play another deck for a bit.
we lose to pretty much all swarming decks man. thats the way of life.
Elves, goblins, merfolk
Well thanks for those inspiring words. I didn't ask what the percentages were, just a strategy to give me the best chance. I get its rough, I would just like my best shot at it. Anyone who has a strategy, I'd love to hear it.
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Get a Delver beating in the air asap and try to control the ground with goyfs, DRSs and cheap removal spells for the haste enablers. That's the gameplan, executing it is pretty tough though.
Land a tarmogoyf and then don't tap out of BG unless you have a force.
Thanks, is there a sideboard plan, and if you had one slot in your board dedicated to beating swarm decks, goblins for the sake of discussion, what would it be?
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Gotta be E Plague at the moment as it's also fine vs DnT, Elves and Pyromancer decks.
Board out your whole FoW's & Daze's because of they're 4 Cavern of Souls & 4 Aether Vial, bring in cards like Golgari Charm, Plague, Disfigure, Needle, Murderous Cut etc.
Lili can go too but it depends on the mass of cards you can bring in G2 G3.
Concentrate your removal on Vial, Warchief, Lackey & Blood Moon.
Close the game as early as possible & take they're creatures under fire, because we will loose the long game against Ringleader & Matron.
Ringleader is they're way to victory but you can't counter it because of Cavern/Vial, if you're on the stifle version you have a much easier time winning.
But it's still a very tough spot, especially with MD Blood Moon, dont worry to much about this MU it's very rare nowadays.
Hope I could help you a bit.
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Thanks. I ask because I have a tournament Saturday and I am expecting to see it.
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1 approach I'm leaning towards on is having a swamp and maybe 1-2 toxic deluges in the side board. Or -1 underground sea and +1 swamp since bug delver is a bit heavy on black. Toxic Deluge clears out swarming tribal decks entirely for an additional cost of 2 life. Also kills magus of the moon from mono red stompy which I feel is also a problem of the deck.
Top 4'ed the event. In the 5 rds of swiss, i beat Mud, UW mentor w/ SFM and DTT, merfolk, lost to omni and junkblade, quarters I beat omni, semi's I lost a close match with rug delver.
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