[Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)

[Mr. Safety]

My apologies, I'm always debating whether to switch to this deck over junk. Nice report, some great plays in there.

[Tokugawa]

Mr. Safety, seems every time you post on here you are basically saying we should just play Junk instead.

Anywho, here's my tournament report. 46th at Worcester. 10-5 record. 500+ people. Placed in the money but I was kinda hoping for a better result. Well, I at least keep to my record of always cashing at SCG events...

Maindeck Decklist is exactly the same as SCG Syracuse. Sideboard a bit different. 2 Surgicals instead of one. Cut the singleton Leyline for a RIP. Added a second Gaddock Teeg.


Round 1. UR Delver. Matt. Lost 2-0
My hands are mediocre, his were not. I'm burned out and the aggressiveness of Swiftspear and Young Pyro are too much. And didn't see my board wipes or even much of my removal for that matter.

Round 2. Aggro Loam. Oscar Chapelle. Win 2-1.
I think he may be a Sourcer. Someone on Aggro Loam thread said he was there and lost to a DeadGuy deck. Game 1, Hero of Bladehold takes care of things for an exact kill, even with a Knight of the Reliquary (summoning sick) and a Maze of Ith out. Game 2. He has an active Knight on an empty board with me having non-basics out. Lol, you do the math on my chances on that one. Can't remember much from game 3 but I think I had turn 1 Bob out. I was lucky to not see Punishing Fire much. I hate that card.

Round 3. Grixis Control Pyro. Matthew Smith. Won 2-0
I'm able to win the attrition war game 1. Game 2, I toxic deluge for 5, killing Gurmag Angler, Young Pyro and friends. Hero of Bladehold then comes in a bit later to clean things up.

Round 4. Death and Taxes. Alex Simmonds. Win 2-1
Game 1, my hand is a bit meh mulling to 5 doesn't help obviously and he has early Mom, stoneforge and Thalia. I scoop pretty early.
Games 2 and 3, I have an early Bob in both games and I'm able to get enough removal to kill everything.

Round 5. Miracles. Mason Sokol. Win 2-0
He's a bit mana light even with a Top trying to dig. Vindicate and Wasteland makes things worse for him.
Game 2. He has Monastery Mentor and Top out. Luckily I have a Revoker naming Top but he still cantrips a bunch. At one point he attacks with 3 tokens and the mentor (no spells cast) into me. I feel I have no choice but to block the Mentor, which I felt he shouldn't have attacked with. I'm able to stabilize killing the tokens and get an active Liliana out. When she's at ulitmate, I have a Teeg out and 2 tokens. He has 4 Islands, 1 Plains, 1 Counterbalance and a Top. I put Plains, top and Counterbalance in one pile and the Islands in the other. He scoops.

Round 6. Stoneblade UW I think? Don McFarlane. Lost 2-1
I punted Game 2. He has a True Name as a blocker and for some odd reason I don't swing with Hero of Bladehold. Why, I don't know. I'm on tilt so Game 3 doesn't go so well either.

Round 7. Lands. Jacob Haversat. Won 2-0.
Game 1, he's able to Manabond. But no Loam, No Punishing Fire and only 1 of either Dark Depths or Stage. I'm able to cast Hero of Bladehold and Maze of Ith only slows down the onslaught.
Game 2. He makes a Marit Lage token. I swords it. He makes another soon after. But I chump with Lingering Souls token. And then Liliana Sacrifice it on my turn.

Round 8. Reanimator. Oliver Higgins. Win 2-1.
Game 1. He has to mull to 5. I thoughtseize his hand and realize 2 things....the first is that he's Reanimator. The second is my Hymn to Tourach in my hand is going to stay there. I'm able to discard enough cards to stop him from doing anything and Batterskull does the rest.
Game 2. Griselbrand shows up from Exhume. Game ova.
Game 3. He casts Stronghold Gambit. it resolves, Shriekmaw from my hand stops Griselbrand from coming into play and stops my Stoneforge Mystic from living. Shriekmaw and Batterskull token finish him off.

Round 9. UR Delver. Zen. Win 2-1.
Game 1. Taylor Swiftspear and Delver do a dance number on my hand.
Game 2. Hero of Bladehold returns the favor.
Game 3. I'm able to kill his threats. He Digs through time....and shows me 2 of the cards....Price of Progress. Lol, usually an awesome card but he has 4 non-basics out and I have only 1. And I'm at 24 life, he's at 2.

Round 10. MUD. Syed Ahmed. Win 2-1.
Game 1. I mull to 5 on the draw. Turn 1, Chalice on 1. Turn 2. Metal Worker. Turn 3, Puke hand out. There is no Turn 4.
Game 2. Removal.deck gets there.
Game 3. My hand isn't great. Bob, Mystic, fetch, Wasteland, Souls. Although for a 5 card hand,could be much much worse. He goes Cloudpost and then next turn cloudpost into Grim Monolith. Holy mana, Batman. He has Chalice at 1. Trinisphere. Lodestone Golem. Revoker on Jitte. Revoker on Liliana. Oh and did I forget to mention Wurmcoil Engine? lol. So Stoneforge Mystic gets me a Batterskull. A later draw a SOFI. Lingering Souls does a bunch of Chump blocking (I also draw another Lingering Souls later). My Batterskull token trades for a Golem only to see another. Things look grim. Eventually I Council's Judgment away the Wurmcoil Engine, Equip SOFI to a Souls token to kill the Revoker naming Liliana and I'm able to Stabilize. I was as low as 9 life and him at 49. Luckily he draws bricks for a few turns (seemed like an eternity to me) and I draw Hero of Bladehold. I equip skull to her and 49 life goes away pretty fast.

Round 11. UR Delver. Stephen Rice. Lose 2-0
Too fast for me to handle. I think his list had Goblin Guides in it.

Round 12. Canadian Threshold. Andrew Boswell. Win 2-1
Stoneforge Mystic MVP in this match winning games 1 and 3. Lol, in one game I have Liliana on an empty board with us both very light in cards in hand. But I don't activate for a couple of turns. He comments to me "Must be a really nice card in your hand." The card? Shriekmaw. lol, if he only knew. I didn't uptick Liliana since a Single bolt can put her down so that if he topdecks a dude I'm in trouble if I don't topdeck well.

Round 13. Jeskai Blade. Kevin Jones. Lose 2-0
Nahiri shows up returning a Batterskull to play. Nice. Good to see obscure cards do well. He has too much 1 mana removal plus Snapcaster. Hero tries to save me but gets Plowed.
After game 1, he comments to me that a few of his friends lost to a Deadguy player with Hero of Bladehold and Shriekmaw. Kevin assumes that player is me. Pretty safe assumption.

Round 14. RW Painter. Ian Carle. Win 2-0
I thoughtseize and see 5 lands including a City of Traitors, Blood moon and a blast. I take the moon. Batterskull does the rest.
Game 2. Too much removal for him to handle. I vindicate his Ensnaring Bridge and swing with the team.

Round 15. Grixis Pyro. Nicholas Spagnolo. Lose 2-0
I thoughtseize him and see Probe, Therapy, Snapcaster, Ponder, Strix and 2 lands. I take the probe. He blindnames Dark Confidant. I have 2 in hand. I'm still able to pressure with Lingering Souls but he's able to kill me before I get him with Bolt. Game 2, he has too much pressure with Pyromancer for me to handle. Also I'm mana screwed a bit.


I was the only Deadguy player to make day 2. No idea but quite possible I'm the only Deadguy player in the room.
-Hero of Bladehold kill count: 5. Most ever for me. Should have been 6 if not for my brain shutting off.
-My opponents were all cool. Some I think are posters on the Source.
-Sideboard MVP. Engineered Explosives. I like removal. My one of Rest in Peace showed up quite a bit in games I boarded it in.
-Faced no Omnitell decks at all. I've tested a bit against it, and I hate playing against it. So I didn't bother to side in specific hate cards for it.
-Also faced no Elves decks and only 1 Miracles player.
-Missed having Disfigure in the board. Could have used it against Delver decks.

Not easy games against URX delver decks. I remember the horrible loses to 8-12bolts decks, when I just started playing MTG at 2011...

[Ganfar]

Help! What kind of deck is deadguy? Midrange, aggro, tempo?

[Wilkin]

Midrange. It can feel Tempo like with the right draws but it's a Midrange deck for the most part.

My build with Moxes can feel like a Tempo deck but lately I haven't been seeing them in the opening 7 or at all.

[Tokugawa]

Help! What kind of deck is deadguy? Midrange, aggro, tempo?

Narrowly speaking, Tempo decks play daze.

[Megadeus]

Yeah I'd agree with Wilkin. Mostly mid range, you are one for one until your card advantage engines pull you ahead, but sometimes you open on deathrite into stoneforge plus wasteland and just get so far ahead your opponent can't ever catch up

[Tokugawa]

I find RG lands is an extremely hard matchup for my deck. Hand disruption and mana disruption are both useless against it. Any suggestion?

[Kanti]

Very quickly, I know this deck is not Junk, it's BW, but if you are splashing green for DRS and AD then woudn't it be wise to test more mana-light options (nothing too high CC, or double-GGreen) and test/play something like Sylvan Library?

[Tokugawa]

Very quickly, I know this deck is not Junk, it's BW, but if you are splashing green for DRS and AD then woudn't it be wise to test more mana-light options (nothing too high CC, or double-GGreen) and test/play something like Sylvan Library?

Sensei's Top is more favored by DGA players. 2CC are already crowded in this deck(luckily that Spell Snare is no longer played in legacy).

[sdematt]

Run RIP if you want to nuke Lands. Extirpate is also good.

[datanaga]

Run RIP if you want to nuke Lands. Extirpate is also good.

It was nice to mee you in Prague on thursday legacy tournament (before Prague Eternal) doing well with Rock (4:0) and crushing miracles in last round.

I was playing this list with result 3:1

4x stfm
4x confidant
4x deathrite
3x sculler

1x batterskull
1x jitte
1x sofi

3x decay
1x sylvan lib
4x swords
3x souls
3x liliana
4x seize
2x inquisition

4x scrubland
1x bayou
1x savannah
4x waste
8x fetch
2x swamp
1x plains
1x karakas

SB:
1x canonist
1x zealous persecution
1x explosives
2x choke
1x teeg
1x revoker
2x needle
2x oblivion ring
4x leyline of the void

R1 miracles, 1:2 it should be unintentional draw, or me winning in next turns, but I gave it up to my friend, because draw is same like loose in our LGS.
R2 miracles, 2:0
R3 omnitell, 2:0 (friend scooped it to me, because of his 2 previous looses)
R4 zoo, 2:0 - my opponent was land light and I played 5x wastelands in two games..

How was your legacy main event? Sadly, I was not able to compete there...

[maharis]

Playing grixis control the other night, I got nuked into oblivion by this deck, and I had a smile on my face the whole time. That's what I deserve.

Same player from my LGS who made day 2 of GPNJ with DGA even in the Cruise era.

He had Bob + Tas and Vindicated my lands, completely fearless.

I still don't feel like the Omni/Miracles matchups are good, but boy does this deck kill the Grixis decks.

[Tokugawa]

Playing grixis control the other night, I got nuked into oblivion by this deck, and I had a smile on my face the whole time. That's what I deserve.

Same player from my LGS who made day 2 of GPNJ with DGA even in the Cruise era.

He had Bob + Tas and Vindicated my lands, completely fearless.

I still don't feel like the Omni/Miracles matchups are good, but boy does this deck kill the Grixis decks.

Grixis control did not perform very well against "fair" decks. And DGA is almost the "fair-est" deck in legacy...

However, Grixis delver is a much more tougher matchup for DGA players.

[Ganfar]

Hi! I need some help to my sideborad. Right now it looks like this:

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 ethersworn canonist
1 Mealstorm Pulse
3 Hymn
1 Pithing Needle
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Tormod's Crypt
3 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Zealous Perseution

I don´t think i want have leyline because it was agaisnt burn and combo but to little combo decks win by target. Hymn is good both decks so I don´t know what I want instad. Thalia shall be a third Canonist becasue Canonist is better agasint combo. Any tips?

P.S

Was on MTGPulse tosee deadguyale lists. Found myself in a top 8 that I played two weeks ago ;)
http://www.mtgpulse.com/event/20547#291508

PSS: I don't plat 61 cards and not four but three AD

[Tokugawa]

Hi! I need some help to my sideborad. Right now it looks like this:

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 ethersworn canonist
1 Mealstorm Pulse
3 Hymn
1 Pithing Needle
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Tormod's Crypt
3 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Zealous Perseution

I don´t think i want have leyline because it was agaisnt burn and combo but to little combo decks win by target. Hymn is good both decks so I don´t know what I want instad. Thalia shall be a third Canonist becasue Canonist is better agasint combo. Any tips?

P.S

Was on MTGPulse tosee deadguyale lists. Found myself in a top 8 that I played two weeks ago ;)
http://www.mtgpulse.com/event/20547#291508

PSS: I don't plat 61 cards and not four but three AD

Drop leylines. Load more hatebears, Thalia and Canonist are both very good against combo.

[Valech]

Hi! I need some help to my sideborad. Right now it looks like this:

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 ethersworn canonist
1 Mealstorm Pulse
3 Hymn
1 Pithing Needle
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Tormod's Crypt
3 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Zealous Perseution

I don´t think i want have leyline because it was agaisnt burn and combo but to little combo decks win by target. Hymn is good both decks so I don´t know what I want instad. Thalia shall be a third Canonist becasue Canonist is better agasint combo. Any tips?

P.S

Was on MTGPulse tosee deadguyale lists. Found myself in a top 8 that I played two weeks ago ;)
http://www.mtgpulse.com/event/20547#291508

PSS: I don't plat 61 cards and not four but three AD

If you need gy hate, rip is your friend.

[Ganfar]

If you need gy hate, rip is your friend.

I have already 3 gravehate so I don't need more

[glowparty]

you could replace a thoughtseize with a therapy main, replace a hymn with the thoughtseize side. therapy is nice with souls and stoneforge. doing this puts you at 5 1cc discard in the 75 which is important on the draw against storm, otherwise you only have the pithing needle for T1 disruptive plays. with 3 sculler / 3 thoughtseize / 1 therapy, lots of times you can ensure a hit with the first therapy cast.

you have a persecution main?
i like the 2-of liliana.

have you considered chains of mephistopheles / spirit of the labyrinth? good against blue and combo.

[Ganfar]

you could replace a thoughtseize with a therapy main, replace a hymn with the thoughtseize side. therapy is nice with souls and stoneforge. doing this puts you at 5 1cc discard in the 75 which is important on the draw against storm, otherwise you only have the pithing needle for T1 disruptive plays. with 3 sculler / 3 thoughtseize / 1 therapy, lots of times you can ensure a hit with the first therapy cast.

you have a persecution main?
i like the 2-of liliana.

have you considered chains of mephistopheles / spirit of the labyrinth? good against blue and combo.

I don't like therapy in decks that's don't get value to sac a creture (dreage, nic-fit). I can't see the hand other then discard spell so many time I have to guess. If I am wrong I can sac a creture but then I have lost a creture. I just like thoughtsize better. I have replace leyline with o-ring, aven-mindcensor and korfire walker. But I want riki-mankai (equip that destroy other equips) when my oppoment use it to me. So nice in a stoneforge mirror

[Secretly.A.Bee]

I don't like therapy in decks that's don't get value to sac a creture (dreage, nic-fit). I can't see the hand other then discard spell so many time I have to guess. If I am wrong I can sac a creture but then I have lost a creture. I just like thoughtsize better. I have replace leyline with o-ring, aven-mindcensor and korfire walker. But I want riki-mankai (equip that destroy other equips) when my oppoment use it to me. So nice in a stoneforge mirror

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