What would you have boarded out for them? The Probes?Originally Posted by KobeBryan
Thanks for the answer Ogh.
Kobe Bryan's answer was obviously also correct but I probably would've had a heart attack trying to figure it out without help.
I was also trying to build this deck in my modded version of duels of the planeswalkers 2014. In that game you don't have access to your sideboard through wishes. From what you tell me it seems like it couldn't be built in this scenario. Do you guys think there's a way to do it? I mean to build the current Omnitell deck without cunning wishes but still maintaining a similar power/consistency level?
The upside is that in that game there's no hate, the a.i. plays creature-based decks with barely any counter magic.
Is there some reason to play such a game? This seems roughly the equivalent of steamrolling kids just learning Magic.
Like Finkel vs. Garfield back in the day.
From my phone. I do my best, dammit!
Well, if you have the modded version you can build just about any deck and see it in action. And the a.i. can beat you if you're not careful, I actually made a misplay and lost using an oath of druids deck.
The a.i. can ocasionally beat my stoneblade and my merfolk decks, and it's at about a 50% win rate against all of my delver variations. Of course I'm playing at the highest difficulty and against the best deck, but it's not all steamrolling.
If you play decks from standard it becomes even a more of a challenge.
someone try the new Jace? (Jace, Vryn's Prodigy)
Hi guys... I have my new list for my monu u omnitell. (Forever monoU)
3 emrakul
(3 creature)
4 fow
4 s pierce
4 brainstorm
4 ponder
3 g probe
1 impulse
3 dtt
1 EtI
4 SaT
4 omni
2 dream halls
2 split decision
3 c wish
(38 other spell)
7 island
2 a tomb
2 CoT
7 assorted blue fetch
(18 lands)
(15 sb)
1 intuition
1 ff
1 eladamri
1 RtA
1 trickbind
1 e truth
1 wipeaway
1 n revival
1 s extraction
2 dismember
2 flusterstorm
2 batterskull
What do you think guys? This build is good to the meta, ive tried it against miracle, uw'x stoneblade, and ur omnitell. All of them were surprise to my build. I hope you like my build... :)
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Dream Halls in 2015 is Horrible. even dismember
why only 3 DTT?
why 2 split decision and only 3 gitaxian? cut 1 emrakul.
if i play mono u i play jace in side. maybe the new jace
37 players, 6 rounds, split for first place after going 4-2 and squeezing into the top 8. This was my 75:
19 LANDS
4 Misty Rainforest
5 Island
4 Flooded Strand
2 Volcanic Island
1 City of Traitors
1 Ancient Tomb
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 CREATURES
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
36 INSTANTS and SORC.
4 Show and Tell
4 Dig Through Time
4 Force of Will
3 Spell Pierce
1 Flusterstorm
4 Preordain
4 Ponder
2 Gitaxian Probe
4 Brainstorm
4 Cunning Wish
1 Split Decision
4 ENCHANTMENTS
4 Omniscience
SIDEBOARD
1 Electrickery
1 Wipe Away
1 Sudden Shock
1 Slaughter Pact (I LEFT MY TTB AT HOME!!!)
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Firemind's Foresight
1 Flusterstorm
1 Swan Song
2 Pyroblast
2 Pyroclasm
1 Release the Ants
2 Young Pyromancer
MATCH 1: vs MUD Prison (0-1)
Game 1: He wins the die roll, and proceeds to establish a manabase and Kuldotha Forgemaster. I do a bunch of cantrips, and find myself in business with Show and Tell plus Omniscience, but he puts in a Lodestone Golem, which keeps me from comboing out on the spot. He then uses Forgemaster to fetch a Spine of Ish Sah to make the Omniscience a non-factor, and clocks me out with a beating Golem.
Sideboarding: -2 Boseiju (Should I be taking out lands, even if they're kinda so-so in this matchup?), -1 Flusterstorm, +2 Young Pyromancer, +1 Slaughter Pact
Game 2: It felt like I had nothing to board against this guy, and I was probably right, since I left my Through The Breach at home. I went for a turn 2 Show and Tell into Emrakul, and lo and behold, he was holding his one-of Spine of Ish Shah. Thankfully, I still kept his lock pieces at bay, except for Chalice for 1, and naturally topdecked into another Show and Tell and Omniscience to combo out on the spot with.
Game 3: I realize early on I have this habit of not mulling away a decent hand that may die to Chalice for 1 (in hopes of landing a FOW), and Chalice for 1 gets me on turn 1. I manage to naturally draw into my combo, but Golem was there, as well as Trinisphere. Soon enough, he lands a Kuldotha Forgemaster, summons a second Golem from the library, then Phyrexian Metamorphs for a third one. I simply had no way out.
MATCH 2: vs 12-Post (1-1)
Game 1: I combo out with Boseiju in play, and go for the Release the Ants kill with a second Emrakul in hand in case I fizzled out. He was at 23, and never saw his Emrakul while clashing against me. My accidental quote of the day when he asked if I can keep using RTA on him before his Titan trigger resolves: "you will die on the stack." It came true, despite the fact he had an Emrakul in his deck.
Sideboarding: -1 Preordain, -1 Dig Through Time, -1 Gitaxian Probe, -1 Flusterstorm, +2 Young Pyromancer, +2 Pyroblast. (Not sure about this boarding, but something along these lines.)
Game 2: I got greedy and kept a hand of no lands, 5 cantrips, including a Gitaxian Probe. I didn't find a land, and when I finally did on my second turn, he had Trickbind ready for it. He then had enough Loci in play and a crop rotation into an Eye of Ugin sealed the deal for Eldrazi.
Game 3: My opening hand was Show and Tell, Omniscience, cantrips, Gitaxian Probe, Cunning Wish, mana. I peeked at his hand and found that he had *three* Trickbinds in hand. The turn before I was about to combo out, he cast a few things, and ended with a Crop Rotation, which I hit with a Spell Pierce. This meant he had only one Trickbind at the ready. I Show and Tell into Omniscience, he drops a Kozilek to me, then I make a play error by not fetching double Emrakul with Split Decision. Instead, I copied my Cunning Wish, so when I realized this error, I got Wipe Away instead. I play Emrakul, he counters the extra turn trigger with Trickbind, I bounce his Kozilek, then with my Preordain which led to a Ponder which led to a Cunning Wish which led to a Dig I sided out, I struggle and manage to find a second Emrakul anyways.
MATCH 3: vs Aggro Loam (1-2)
Game 1: He mulls to 5, and I put in a turn 3 Omniscience with Cunning Wish in hand.
Sideboarding: -2 Boseiju, +2 Young Pyromancer.
Game 2: I really don't know if I should be siding in Pyroclasms since the only relevant target is Confidant. That being said, my Show and Tell on turn 2 into Emrakul was met by his one-of Karakas, and he controlled the rest of the game from there.
Game 3: Chalice for 1 on turn 1 with me having an opening grip of 4 cantrips and a Spell Pierce? Yeah, this was almost academic. Plus slops to me for bouncing the Chalice via Wipe Away, then not FOW'ing it when he tried to recast it, all because I had DTT ready to go and was trying to save for something more important. The Ponder I topdecked may or may not have found me the Show and Tell I needed since I had Omniscience in hand.
My back's against the wall at this point. a 1-2 start? TTB not being in my deck likely relevant in BOTH matches? This was really shaping up to be a bad day. Then things turned around when...
MATCH 4: vs Mono-B (2-2)
Game 1: My opponent presented himself as Mono-Black, and I wasn't sure how to address it. I kept a hand with cantrips and a pair of Spell Pierce, which kept me alive since my opponent couldn't hit me with Hymn to Tourach. I ended up having the combo on turn 5, after using Dig to find it, and realizing that for a Mono-B deck, he wasn't too overloaded on Duress effects. I think he ran only Inquisition and Hymn when I spoke to him an offered deck advice at the end of the match.
Sideboarding: -2 Boseiju, -1 Gitaxian Probe +2 Young Pyromancer, +1 Flusterstorm.
Game 2: He again got his Hymn Spell Pierce, but on turn 3, he cast a Nether Spirit (!), which I didn't worry about. I Force his second Hymn, he Extirpates it, then he puts Ensnaring Bridge into play. I kill him via Release the Ants combo around two turns later. We have a nice conversation about kill conditions and threats, and I convinced him to at least replace the Nether Spirits with something much more threatening, like, say, a Hypnotic Spectre, at least, or a Thespian's Stage and a Dark Depths.
MATCH 5: vs Dredge
Game 1: He opened with what I thought was a Storm deck, because I wasn't thinking when he laid down a Lion's Eye Diamond on turn 1 and he named Show and Tell with his Cabal Therapy. I was holding Emrakul, but not Cabal.. He cracked it to empty his hand EOT. I got a Brainstorm on my turn. He tried to Flashback Cabal after bringing back an Ichorid, which I FOW, since my Brainstorm found me a Show and Tell. I combo out via Sol Land on my turn 2, so it was
kinda academic.
Sideboarding: -2 Gitaxian Probe, -2 Boseiju, +2 Young Pyromancer, +2 Pyroclasm
Game 2: He mulls to 3. I take my sweet time to combo out.
MATCH 6: vs Storm (4-2)
With 5 matches, I'm at 3-2 and surprisingly ranked 11 in standings. I had an outside shot at getting into top 8 because only 7 players could ID into top 8, and one of them was paired against a 3-2, while the 8th guy was paired against another 3-2. My opponent is an old friend of mine who I educated on the ways of Storm thanks to my Vintage play.
Game 1: I hold a land, Sol Land, Spell Pierce, cantrips, Cunning Wish, Omniscience, and he opens with a Ponder. I put down my land and hold up Spell Pierce, then Gitaxian Probe him. I see he has Lion's Eye Diamond and an Infernal Tutor in hand, among other things, so I know that if he sees I'm open, he might just go for the combo. I pass the turn to him. He casts Duress. I pierce. I joke about winning on the spot if I topdeck a Show and Tell. He laughs. I topdeck a Show and Tell. We still laugh about it as we shuffle for Game 2.
Sideboarding: -2 Boseiju, +2 Young Pyromancer.
Game 2: He hits me with Duress. I FOW. I Show and Tell into Emrakul on turn 3. He has a turn to win, and he tries to combo out at 17 life via Ad Naus at 0 mana. He has a lot of Rituals, Past in Flames, and a single Petal, no land drop remaining, but he still needed a red source of mana to get PIF working and subsequently, the win. At 2 life, he deliberated what his outs were. He kept going, and hit a land, a land, and a Cabal Ritual. It was still the best play he could have done, and much respect to him for having the nerves of steel to go for it.
QUARTERFINALS: vs Landstill
I come in at 8th after Swiss, which means I go second the entire playoffs.
Game 1: I knew he was on Landstill. I kept a hand of 7 blue cards and no land on the draw, with Probe. Second time I got greedy with a hand like this, but this time, it paid off. I Probed into a fetchland. He and I went draw-go for an inordinate amount of turns, since I can't find Boseiju and he can't find a single threat. It got long enough that he was starting to discard cards already. I overwhelmed him by trying to push for Dig Through Time a couple of times, while faking him out since I already had the combo in hand. When I had double FOW and Flusterstorm in hand after baiting counters, I went for it on my turn. He lost the counterwar, and subsequently, the game.
Sideboarding: -2 Gitaxian Probe, -1 Preordain, -1 Dig, +2 Pyroblast, +2 Young Pyromancer.
Game 2: I had an opening hand with cantrips and protection, but no combo in sight. I find a Pyromancer a couple of turns in, he targets it with Lightning Helix, which I Force, to produce a token, but he Forces it back. A turn later, he Slaughter Games for Show and Tell, tapping out and not using his Wasteland on my Volcanic Island in play. I topdeck another Pyromancer. This takes me all the way, since he couldn't find any removal for it anymore.
SEMIFINALS: vs Aggro Loam
This is the same guy who beat me in Swiss.
Game 1: Turn 3 combo. As academic as it gets.
Sideboarding: -2 Boseiju, +2 Young Pyromancer.
Game 2: He strips my hand early on, and puts me on Chalice for 1. He brings down Confidant. He has Choke and Thalia in play by the time I hit my Omniscience in play, He beat me down with Confidant and Thalia, and finished me off that way for this game.
Game 3: Attrition, attrition, attrition. He opened with a Confidant on his turn 2, while I opened with a Pyromancer on my turn 3. He plays Chalice, which I Pierce, to produce a token, and he drops a second Confidant. He eventually gets a Chalice for 1 to stick. We do this ridiculous draw-go where he had two Confidants and two Knights of the Reliquary in play, while I was amassing a token horde. He refused to attack me, and I refused to attack him, too. He brought himself down to 9 via Confidants, I keep him away from any relevant game-swinging plays with Force of Wills at the ready. I decided I was gonna all-in on the Pyromancer, so I pitched Show and Tell to FOW his Liliana, while keeping a Wipe Away that I Wished for in hand, and another Cunning Wish. Eventually, he hits Krosan Grip on his own Chalice so he can bring down a Deathrite Shaman. I sensed this was my chance, so with 12 tokens in play, I Wished for Electrickery.
He's at 9 life. If I alpha strike and make a mistake, I die to his three huge Knights of the Reliquary the next turn. 14 creatures on my side. On his side, 3 Knights, 2 Confidants, 1 DRS, 1 Dryad Arbor, 1 Maze of Ith. Electrickery resolves. On his side, he has 5 virtual blockers, and if I made a mistake and it turned out he had more than one Maze of Ith in his deck, I was going to lose on the spot. He didn't. I won.
FINALS: vs Grixis Delver
We decide to split the finals, and I gave him the win for the record books, but I get to keep the first prize of a Foil PTQ Liliana of the Veil. Not bad, if I do say so myself. My only question would probably be thus: was I right to side out Boseiju all those times against the non-blue matches? It didn't seem like a fair trade of two lands for two Pyromancers...
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no more intuition in main
I borrowed this deck for a scg iq this past saturday and made top 8 going 3-1-1. If I played it again I would cut a md preordain and sb pyroblast for 2 intuition in the 75.
Sneak and Show 1-1-1, Omnitell 2-1, BUG 1-2, RUG Delver 2-1, Maverick 2-0. I then lost to the same BUG guy in top 8 1-2 again. Any tips for the bug matchup?
19 LANDS
4 Misty Rainforest
5 Island
4 Pollute Delta
2 Volcanic Island
2 City of Traitors
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 CREATURES
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
35 INSTANTS and SORC.
4 Show and Tell
4 Dig Through Time
4 Force of Will
1 Spell Pierce
2 Flusterstorm
4 Preordain
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Brainstorm
3 Cunning Wish
1 Impulse
4 ENCHANTMENTS
4 Omniscience
SIDEBOARD
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Wipe Away
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Firemind's Foresight
1 Flusterstorm
1 Trickbind
2 Pyroblast
2 Pyroclasm
1 Release the Ants
2 Young Pyromancer
Hey guys,
I am playtesting for seattle, and no one in my playgroup has maindecked this deck. So I am hoping to play some matches on cockatrice with the general assumption that for each game 1 we pretend we don't know what each other is playing. I will be testing storm, TES if it matters.
Please PM me!
Hi Guys, I am a player from the EtI era. Can you give me sideboarding guid to the latest CvM built? I like it a lot. Thank you!
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Please read the thread. There are plenty of sideboarding tips in the OP and last 10 or so pages.
I would like to ask more experienced if my sid-in / out are correct and what would you change.
to start but this is the list:
Creatures [2]
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Instants [19]
1 Flusterstorm
1 Split Decision
2 Spell Pierce
3 Cunning Wish
4 Brainstorm
4 Dig Through Time
4 Force of Will
Sorceries [16]
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Show and Tell
Enchantments [4]
4 Omniscience
Lands [19]
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 City of Traitors
2 Volcanic Island
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
0/1 fetch
6/5 Island
2/3 Young Pyromancer
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Sudden Shock
2 Pyroclasm
1 Wipe Away
1 Trickbind
1/2 Pyroblast
1 Surgical Extraction
1/0 Through the Breach
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Firemind's Foresight
1 Release the Ants
and these are my sid-in / out
Miracle
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 1 Island
- 2 Spell Pierce
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
+2/3 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1 Pyroblast
+1 Sudden Shock
+1 Boseiju
Miracle Mentor
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 1 Island
- 2 Spell Pierce
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
+2/3 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1 Pyroblast
+1 Sudden Shock
+1 Boseiju
Grixis delver
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 1 Split Decision
- 1 Spell Pierce
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
+2/3 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1 Sudden Shock
+0/1 Lightning Bolt
Grixis Control
- 1 Island
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 2 ????
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
+2 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1 Sudden Shock
+1 Boseiju
+1 Pyroblast
BUG delver
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 1 Split Decision
- 1 Spell Pierce
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
+2/3 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1 Sudden Shock
+0/1 Lightning Bolt
BUG shardless
- 1 Split Decision
- 1 Spell Pierce
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
+2/3 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1 Sudden Shock
Omnishow
- 3 Gitaxian Probe
- 3/2 Show and Tell
+2/3 Young Pyromancer
+2 Pyroclasm
+1/2 Pyroblast
+1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
AggroLoam
- 1 Boseiju
- 1 Flusterstorm
- 1 Split Decision
- 2 Gitaxian Probe
+ 0/1 Lightning Bolt
+ 0/1 Sudden Shock
+ 1 Surgical Extraction
+ 2 Pyromancer
+ 2 Pyroclasm
D&T
- 1 Boseiju
- 1 Split Decision
- 1 Gitaxian Probe
- 1 Flusterstorm
+1 Lightning Bolt
+1 Sudden Shock
+2 Pyroclasm
Infect
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 1 Split Decision
- 2 Gitaxian Probe
+1 Lightning Bolt
+1 Sudden Shock
+2 Pyroclasm
+0/1 Wipe Away
+0/2 Pyromancer
4c Delver
- 1 Cunning Wish
- 1 Spell Pierce
- 1 island
- 2 Gitaxian Probe
+1 Boseiju
+1/2 Pyroblast
+1/2 Pyroclasm
+ 2/3 Pyromancer
Storm
- 1 Boseiju
+ 1 Flusterstorm / Surgical Extraction
+ Probably Pyroclasm for Goblin and Xantid Swarm but I don’t know
Lands
- 1 Boseiju
+ 1 Surgical Extraction
MUD
- 1 Boseiju
- 1 fluster
- 1 Split Decision
+ 2/3 Pyromancer
+ 1 Lightning Bolt
it would be really important if the experts would help us to sid-in/out properly,
I thank you for the help
You only should be boarding in YP in 2 matchups. Miracles and mirror.
you use Pyromancer only in mirror and against miracle?
the other side, are correct in your opinion? (Of course in this case by removing pyromante other metcup), what would you change?
many thanks for your help, I hope that it serves also to other players
Oh, man. I didn't know this. In my last run, YP was boarded in every single match, at the very least to replace the 2 Boseijus in the main. Haha.
What about Aggro Loam? I like having an out to Slaughter Games.
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