[Deck] Dragon Stompy

[MGB]

It's more viable than Dragon.dec. Unless you like losing to goyf, batterskull and planeswalkers.

Moggcatcher Stompy loses to Goyfs and Batterskulls?

[Admiral_Arzar]

I feel like the issues people have described with both Omnitell and Miracles are solvable by just playing a bunch of Boils and/or Boiling Seas in the sideboard. I haven't played this deck in a while (but am looking to get back into it), has anybody tested that solution?

[Blastoderm]

Moggcatcher Stompy loses to Goyfs and Batterskulls?

It doesn't... dragons.dec does.

Rakka mar takes care of all those things as well.

I feel like the issues people have described with both Omnitell and Miracles are solvable by just playing a bunch of Boils and/or Boiling Seas in the sideboard. I haven't played this deck in a while (but am looking to get back into it), has anybody tested that solution?

I haven't played vs Omnitell yet but it's probably awful since ensnaring bridge and stingscourger don't do anything anymore. Boil can help I suppose but I'd rather play Ashen Rider (even that doesn't guarantee a win). However, Boil does apply in other matchups like Miracles and Grixis Control.

I never found that I needed that much help in the Miracles matchup, especially if you play Koth. Another gem vs miracles is Goblin Assault. Stormbreath Dragon seems fine in the Miracles matchup but horrible vs everything else, and not much better than SGC.

[jake556]

It's more viable than Dragon.dec. Unless you like losing to goyf, batterskull and planeswalkers.

Stingscourger/ Tuk-Tuk Scrapper/ Murderous Redcap/ Kiki Jiki, would like to say hi.

[potatodavid]

I have all the cards for the Moggcatcher variation of this deck. Considering slapping it together just to Bloodmoon everyone in my meta out. And slowly kill them with with Goblin Settlers. Just wasn't sure if it was a favorable deck anymore. I assume it's not because I have not seen that variation in a long time.

[Blastoderm]

Stingscourger/ Tuk-Tuk Scrapper/ Murderous Redcap/ Kiki Jiki, would like to say hi.

Yup perhaps I wrote it wrong... I'm all in favor of moggcatcher. I've CRUSHED stuff like clique equipped with batterskull + jitte. Stormbreath would shed tears.

[Blastoderm]

I have all the cards for the Moggcatcher variation of this deck. Considering slapping it together just to Bloodmoon everyone in my meta out. And slowly kill them with with Goblin Settlers. Just wasn't sure if it was a favorable deck anymore. I assume it's not because I have not seen that variation in a long time.

It is but don't play random targets like Settler. Maindeck I only play 3x SGC and 1x TukTuk.

[potatodavid]

It is but don't play random targets like Settler. Maindeck I only play 3x SGC and 1x TukTuk.

Are you playing Rabblemaster then?

[nodahero]

Rabblemaster is a HUGE boon to the goblin variation--- personally I think it is the best reason to play that version.

[Blastoderm]

Are you playing Rabblemaster then?

No. My original list (first ever goblin stompy list) from 2013 for reference:

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...l=1#post734754

I usually play something similar to this. Currently I don't play Koth main and 19 lands instead of 20. +4 Sudden Shock due to my local meta being infested with the typical Delver mouthbreathers.

I haven't tested Rabblemaster yet so I don't really have an opinion. When I'm choosing creatures to play, I always decide based on the following questions:

Does it beat/race Tarmogoyf? Can I hold down two Tarmogoyfs?
Does it beat/race a resolved and activated stoneforge? (Basically Batterskull) None of the dragon cards can race a Batterskull.
Is it good vs Liliana and Jace? If I have an empty board can I topdeck creatures to get passed Jace bounce and Lili sacrifice?
If he topdecks removal like bolt after 1-2 turns am I still in the game?

Rakka Mar is absolutely insane vs everything because you make 3/1s every turn (they dont die EOT ) which satisfies all of the above conditions. It also has haste. Same for SGC because he makes tokens that can chump and shoot stuff (I hardcast them very often). Hound of Griselbrand is a bit weaker but he's great in combat vs aggro decks as well as vs Liliana / Lightning Bolt.

Rabblemaster seems good vs Liliana/Jace but bad vs Tarmogoyf/Deathrite Shaman/Batterskull/Young Pyro. To be honest, he's probably better in the SB as a quick clock vs combo decks and Miracles. If you do decide to play him main I highly suggest Sudden Shock to clear the way.

[potatodavid]

No. My original list (first ever goblin stompy list) ,... my local meta being infested with the typical Delver mouthbreathers.

I wish i my meta was full of delver.

[Blastoderm]

I wish i my meta was full of delver.

It's incredibly easy with Sudden Shocks lol. What does your meta look like?

[potatodavid]

It's incredibly easy with Sudden Shocks lol. What does your meta look like?

C-C-C-C-Combo and lands

[Blastoderm]

C-C-C-C-Combo and lands

Lands should be a bye no?

Vs Combo you can have a SB of:

Phyrexian Revoker (vs ANT)
Tormod's Crypt
Confusion in the Ranks
Boil
Stingscourger (vs Show and Tell as a 1-of target)

[Octopusman]

I feel like the issues people have described with both Omnitell and Miracles are solvable by just playing a bunch of Boils and/or Boiling Seas in the sideboard. I haven't played this deck in a while (but am looking to get back into it), has anybody tested that solution?

It's been a long time since I used Boil. Perhaps it's time to try again. I never found it to be particularly devastating but I'll let you know in a few weeks.

Kind regards,

[Blastoderm]

It's been a long time since I used Boil. Perhaps it's time to try again. I never found it to be particularly devastating but I'll let you know in a few weeks.

Kind regards,

Vs Miracles I found Koth and Goblin Assault quite effective. I think I had a couple of Boils too. Omnitell I expect to be difficult. The days of sneak/show have passed where you can just drop Ensnaring Bridge or Moggcatcher--> fetch stingscourger. Maybe Ashen Rider or confusion in the ranks?

[warfordium]

Feels so good to Moon people on Turn 1. Sometimes, even on Turn 2 then Magma Jet their 1 drop.

Amen. 3-0 then double-drew in the GPT i played yesterday with Koby's list. Owned 4c Delver in T8 then variance caught up with me—mulled to 5 G1 then 4 G2 on the play against Burn in T4. Had only mulled once before that in the 3 matches I played. 3-ball is an insane card. Goblin Rabblemaster is also a great clock. I'm not so into the Thunderbreak Regent but i warmed up to Chandra in the end. I went to 4 Jet since I was short the 4th Magus on the day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It was a sweet metagame deck.

[Octopusman]

Not going to give a full report, just some feedback regarding Tuesday's weekly.

Ran this:

main:
city of traitors 4
ancient tomb 4
chrome mox 4
simian spirit guide 4
mountain 10
blood moon 4
magus of the moon 4
stormbreath dragon 3
seething song 3
goblin rabblemaster 2
Trinisphere 4
Chalice of the void 4
sword of war and peace 2
Prophetic Flamespeaker 4
Stone Rain 4

side:
Cursed Totem 2
Bonfire of the Damned 2
Anarchy 2
Shattering Spree 2
Phyrexian Revoker 3
Pyroblast 4

Went 2-1

Round 1 vs. Twin
1-2

I mulled down to 4 G1.

G2 just beat him up with magi and flamespeakers.

G3 I conceded when I saw he had 4 mana open after resolving a pestermite and found out later he didn't have twin. Lesson learned.


Round 2 vs. Nic Fit with Siege Rhino
2-1

Forgot most of this but won by doing 16 with equipped flamespeaker and another game with equipped stormbreath

Round 3 vs. Maverick
2-1

He mulls to 4 or 5 G1 but keeps drawing land and plays 3 pridemages and beats me down with 5/4 Thalia.

G2 & G3 I kill him with Flamespeaker and then Stormbreath dragon.


Stone Rain still a boss. Flamespeaker and Stormbreath still winning games. Never saw a Rabblemaster. No plans to change the main right now.

[Octopusman]

Should we play Black Vise? Yay or nay?

[rlesko]

Should we play Black Vise? Yay or nay?

Probably not because it costs 1...right?