Quote Originally Posted by ThiefSlayer View Post
Now I got confused, are we really using stifles? Not trying to be a jerk here, I just don't remember seeing it.

I just got one question, if we are moving away from PoP and playing stifles and waste, why not play 4 color or rug delver? I don't think UR can play the mana denial role better than those decks.

I got pretty excited about Kassis' result with UR Delver Prowess, the printing of Stormchaser Mage seems like a really good thing for UR Delver decks!

How do you guys feel about playing 17 lands instead of 18, if not playing wasteland and playing 4 gitaxian probe? I'll stick to the PoP plan, it's just too strong in my meta.
My bad, I thought Eli played Stifles. I agree with you on Wasteland though, it doesn't trigger prowess or cast anything in the deck, and without stifle it's not like we're fully committed to mana denial.

I prefer stifle to wasteland if you're only going to play one because Stifle can "counter" trouble cards like Ancestral Visions, Terminus, Stoneforge Mystic, Deathrite in a pinch, probably others I'm missing (Tendrils?). Also pitches to force/triggers prowess.

I'm not sure the FF/Day's package is worth anything but I'm intrigued by the concept. I think Stormchaser might be a game changer for the idea because it gives you an evasive haste threat to play after your Daze and get super far ahead if not outright win that turn.


Drafted this list:

4 Delver of Secrets
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Stormchaser Mage

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Stifle
4 Daze
2 Chain Lightning (Forked Bolt?)
2 Gitaxian Probe
2 Final Fortune
2 Day's Undoing

4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
4 Volcanic Island
2 Island
1 Mountain
1 Steam Vents

I like Vents over a second mountain, both cards suck with daze but at least this card is live with daze.