View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    No, Recruiter is just a logistic nightmare thats why I drew lines to Shahrazad
    Indeed. Regardless of whether it's too powerful or not it takes way too long to search your library and stack it to be legal.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dissection View Post
    Indeed. Regardless of whether it's too powerful or not it takes way too long to search your library and stack it to be legal.
    I'd imagine that there's a relatively small number of default piles that handle most situations.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Some sort of non-Standard legal "fixed" reprint of Recruiter that let you search for 5 Goblins or something and stack them would be the nuts.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dissection View Post
    Indeed. Regardless of whether it's too powerful or not it takes way too long to put graveyard into library, search that library, exile cards, stack five cards and lose half life to be legal.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    I'd imagine that there's a relatively small number of default piles that handle most situations.
    and pretty much all of them are stackable in a couple minutes, once you know the piles.

    Recruiter is no where near the logistics problem people make it out to be.
    It is a unskilled player problem however, since they take to long to think about how to stack. which should not be a bannable issue.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spam View Post
    Shaharazad would bring so much joy in a competitive field.
    A game of magic that can't end? Where do I have to sign?
    Why don't we also bring Balance to the table? Sounds fun.
    Have we really reached the point where every non blue card is ok to discuss? Apart for the lovely art, Recruiter is just broken.
    There's actually an easy way to stop Shahrazad from stalling you out: Just concede the subgame and go on with the main game. No slowdown at all!

    The real issue with Shahrazad is that taking out half of someone's life for 2 mana seems a bit overpowered.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmcc13 View Post
    and pretty much all of them are stackable in a couple minutes, once you know the piles.

    Recruiter is no where near the logistics problem people make it out to be.
    It is a unskilled player problem however, since they take to long to think about how to stack. which should not be a bannable issue.
    Oh, we are back to "SDT as a card is not the reason why Miracles matches go to time, but the inexperienced players"? Yeah, because just the fact that some people can play with card X or deck Y like with their own schlong, doesn't mean there is no logistic Problem overall. I have seen people puzzling 5+ min about Doomsday piles and I have seen people wasting 10+ minutes per game stacking their deck with Recruiters. The effective difference between the two cards is, that Doomsday does not stack 20+ cards several times in a single match like Recruiter is used to do.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I recommend anyone interested in a recruiter unban put together food chain goblins in vintage online and then attempt to combo out without feeling suicidal.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    What would happen if they unbanned Oath of Druids right now?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by MGB View Post
    What would happen if they unbanned Oath of Druids right now?
    Nothing good. Think the Vintage deck only without the acceleration. It's not a safe card.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Price spike would be the first thing that happened. After that it would be a rush to find which vintage shells can be recreated in legacy and aren't completely out of their element. A normal list dropping vintage cards for petals, extra cantrips, and some number of chrome mox is probably playable immediately.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    The bomber man shell could go in rather easily. If you wanted combo that's likely your best route. The lack of Yawg Will hurts the storm set up and no Vault means your not going to run the tutor heavy version.

    Apart from that, dropping Brand onto the table followed by Elish Norn would likely be good enough too.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by MGB View Post
    What would happen if they unbanned Oath of Druids right now?
    format would be awful.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    If you thought creatures were bad in a world if terminus, they're even worse in a world of Oath
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE View Post
    I recommend anyone interested in a recruiter unban put together food chain goblins in vintage online and then attempt to combo out without feeling suicidal.
    It's probably because you're playing on MTGO.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Real talk - when are they going to get rid of the ancient poll results in this thread? I'd be interested in seeing a new poll of which card should be banned in Legacy with "no bans" as an option.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrunkenphat7 View Post
    Real talk - when are they going to get rid of the ancient poll results in this thread? I'd be interested in seeing a new poll of which card should be banned in Legacy with "no bans" as an option.
    +1

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    It's funny that none of those cards were banned in seven years.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrunkenphat7 View Post
    Real talk - when are they going to get rid of the ancient poll results in this thread? I'd be interested in seeing a new poll of which card should be banned in Legacy with "no bans" as an option.
    It's left there for a reason. That reason being it looks ridiculous in our eyes knowing what time has done to the format. Thus a reminder that not every idea is a sound one.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I dunno Phyrexian Dreadnaught is still a 12/12 for 1.

    I mean that's a lot of creature for one mana.
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