Super close to what I'm running now, just -2 boil, +1 chalice, +1 thorn.
What other decks are you considering?
I'll probably eternally prefer Choke over Boil, but that's just me. If you're expecting Eldrazi you should feel pretty happy playing Lands. I've tested that matchup for a few hours and Lands does a pretty good job at mopping that deck up. This is what I run with RG Lands:
x4 Krosan Grip
x4 Sphere of Resistance
x2 Chalice of the Void
x2 Choke
x1 Karakas (MD Bog)
x1 Pithing Needle
x1 Thorn of Amethyst (Flex slot, depending on what you expect in the meta. More combo/More control/More aggro)
@ supremePINEAPPLE: I was thinking about my old favorite: Goblins. I want to test Warpjng Wail. Also, last time I took RGCL to a tournament I didn't do that good. I've been pretty tired with work and all, and at times like these: Goblins, my very first Legacy deck, is my deck to go to. RGCL is not a deck you 'just' take to a tournament without being properly rested.
@ hyp3r1on: I just recently picked Boil up, before that I packed -2 Boil, +1 Choke +1 Prime-time. Just testing, we'll see how it feels in the SB. I was not all that worried about Eldrazi, but I think we can be collateral damage when Blood Moon is popping up everywhere.
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RGCL (GQ)
Originally Posted by Dice_Box
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Fair. If I'm expecting a lot of permanent hate like Blood Moon etc, I like a copy of Seal of Primordium to compliment the playset of Grips.
Going to SCG Philly, I hope i can see some of y'all there.
im trying aura fracture in philly as a one of to compliment my grips.
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I tried Seal and it's not very good. It gets countered by Counterbalance and doesn't resolve against blue Blood Moon decks. Krosan Grip is the business.
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Seal's not amazing by any means but it's probably the next best "permanent hate" answer after x4 Grips in the RG shell. I wouldn't really run them and they're not great vs Miracles, but if you know there's a bunch of random decks with Blood Moons or Winter Orbs floating around in a room I could see using one.
i've seen some eldrazi players pack some Tsabo's Web as well. (not to mention also maindeck karakas, so be on your toes people)
Yeah I got hit with Tsabo's Web today while playing RUG Lands, I wasn't too impressed by it's showing but it did slow me down a couple turns and forced me to Engineered Explosives it away before I continued on my way. I guess that's a bit harder to do when you're playing RGCL but you all play Grips so I wouldn't be too worried.
Very proactive choice, and vunerable.
Sounds like a plan. Don't you find it hard to cast, being 2W?
So what enchantment-hate is there to compliment our K-Grip? Any preferences?
"Be it ever so crumbled, there's no place like home."
RGCL (GQ)
Youtube-playlist dedicated to RGCL
I've never had trouble casting it. Between karakas, mox, stage copying their plains its a breeze to cast. If I ran riftstone portal it would be even better
Engineered Explosives or splash a Bayou for Abrupt Decay.
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Jarvis mentioned tranquil grove and aura fracture around the time of GP SeaTac. Tranquil grove hits your exploration which is a bummer. Aura fracture costs white so you may need to run something like 4 fetchlands and riftstone portal in the main, savannah and karakas in the side. I never tested it but reducing the number of business sideboard cards by 1 to facilitate casting the others seems rough. I'm assuming the miracles match up is the main reason for wanting extra enchantment hate, aura fracture happens to be harder to counter off counterbalance and can be used immediately with only 3 mana available as long as you have a land. I think someone else mentioned splashing black for abrupt decay which might be a bit more graceful.
I have been the only person actively testing with aura fracture (AFAIK) and talking about it since seatac. Jarvis mentioned he might play it if he knew the meta was gonna have a bunch of bloodmoons. It's been very good to me. I play two fetchlands, 2 taiga, karakas main and have no trouble casting it. My side board has no Savannah. Or riftstone portal. The matchups I need it in I play very tight. I get rewarded every time it resolves.
I've been testing grove and aura fracture since early last year and dropped them since omni got neutered. I tried to play it at least for value on one enchantment because I saw many wear/tear/snap caster from miracles whenenver I preemptively dropped it. It was also weak when they had a strong mentor draw and never played enchantments. It gives you control of fasbonds vs Lands variants, but I never drew it during my matches here and coming down for 3 mana in a mana denial game is risky. My sb only had 1.
These are Similar problems I've had with one ofs. Abrupt decay would be a sweet card in that situation. Gambling for a one of sucks. And three mana can be tough if the have an aggro hand. But in the long games where miracles usually takes us its a huge swing. I can spare 3 mana in grindy match ups. When it lands, it bring us back to the game plan of denying white mana and lage. My meta has a significant miracles/4x leyline meta. Have you tried a one of abrupt decay?
Glad its working out! Maybe I'll get to see it in action at scg philly
First Modo Legacy League match:
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It's unfortunate but I won't be able to make the scg event in Philly, however good news everyone. I have done some extensive testing against that eldrazi aggro deck that's been popping up a lot and it's a very favorable match up for us. Also check the prices on mox diamond since the announcement of eternal masters. I know I enjoy it when a card in my deck triples in value.
I've played against the 16 sol land eldrazi deck a bit (colorless and R/B versions) and so far we are finding that it's soft to decks that regularly disrupt mana sources. also, tabernacle causes some odd issues paying for creatures with eye of ugin in play. The problem is that with the way my sideboard is constructed, I only have K grips to side in against it.
The deck seems to whollop tempo decks and control decks much of the time.
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