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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Stormchaser Mage has been great for me recently. Flying is really powerful and I always underrate it.

    TITI seems okay, not amazing or anything. To be honest it almost seems more like a sideboard card. There's no way I'm playing it in the same deck as Delver and Young Pyromancer, but it's a powerful enough effect that maybe you could bring it in against decks like Elves or against other Delver decks.

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I always like to check on the daily MTGO results... Stormchaser build got a 5-0 result yesterday. Is this any of you?

    http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/386469#online

    In other news.... Got my foil Stormchasers in the mail. Pretty stoked!
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by dave78pdx View Post
    I always like to check on the daily MTGO results... Stormchaser build got a 5-0 result yesterday. Is this any of you?

    http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/386469#online

    In other news.... Got my foil Stormchasers in the mail. Pretty stoked!
    I like this list. I run the same thing minus 2 POP and a Chain Lightning and plus 3 Forked Bolt. I am also splashing a Taiga for 2 Grips out of the board.

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    Intrigued by this one... I'm going to give this a shot in Modern UR Delver, for sure. Wondering if it could be a nice 1-of in Legacy UR Delver.
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by dave78pdx View Post


    Intrigued by this one... I'm going to give this a shot in Modern UR Delver, for sure. Wondering if it could be a nice 1-of in Legacy UR Delver.
    I'm intrigued by this as well, I think the problem is UR delver is a greedy deck and how often will you be casting this for mare than x=3? I still think it is worth a shot as brainstorm 5 and 6.

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I like that it's an X spell, but I don't like that it lets my opponent pick which cards I get. If I'm going to play a Blue card draw spell, I'd rather do what Eli Kassis was doing and run Compulsive Research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocked439 View Post
    I'm intrigued by this as well, I think the problem is UR delver is a greedy deck and how often will you be casting this for mare than x=3? I still think it is worth a shot as brainstorm 5 and 6.
    We already have Brainstorm 5-8; it's called Ponder. My initial thought is to run this as a 1-of in place of a Ponder.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMonday View Post
    I like that it's an X spell, but I don't like that it lets my opponent pick which cards I get. If I'm going to play a Blue card draw spell, I'd rather do what Eli Kassis was doing and run Compulsive Research.
    I feel like this is better because of it being an X-cost spell and instant speed. You get to reveal X+1... X=0 will pump your prowess dudes for 1cc. X=1 or 2 will make it a cantrip. X=3 (or more) and then you can reload your hand a bit, not just cantrip... Which is why I would want to run only one to serve as a late-game refill.

    Depending on which build you are doing... More Snapcaster targets or more Lavamancer fodder in the GY... Or, just another cantrip for your prowess dudes with the flexibility to cantrip early or reload late. Another fun idea... Brainstorm/Ponder (and maybe a fetch land shuffle) to set up an Epiphany.
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by dave78pdx View Post
    We already have Brainstorm 5-8; it's called Ponder. My initial thought is to run this as a 1-of in place of a Ponder.

    Depending on which build you are doing... More Snapcaster targets or more Lavamancer fodder in the GY... Or, just another cantrip for your prowess dudes with the flexibility to cantrip early or reload late. Another fun idea... Brainstorm/Ponder (and maybe a fetch land shuffle) to set up an Epiphany.
    I was more referencing the instant speed aspect of it, but I get what you are saying. The prowess trigger plus cantrip seems ok, but why not just run expedite, or slip through space if that's the average case scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocked439 View Post
    I was more referencing the instant speed aspect of it, but I get what you are saying. The prowess trigger plus cantrip seems ok, but why not just run expedite, or slip through space if that's the average case scenario.
    I know what you mean about Ponder being a sorcery. As for Expedite, we already don't run Crimson Wisps, which is arguably better because it can allow your blue dudes to dodge REB/Pyroblast.

    Slip Through Space gives evasion with a cantrip, and can't be countered with REB/Pyroblast... But, so much of a Delver deck is already built around evasion (flying, specifically). I would consider it in Modern, maybe.
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    It's probably playable in modern, but in legacy, Fact or Fiction is better at 3(U), gives 5 cards (1 more for your mana), and you pick the pile, not your opponent. sure, it doesn't have the "flexibility" of an X-spell, but to reiterate, we still have ponder, preordain, and another handful of other spells that have a similar effect that would see play before this.

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Every card which let opponent making the "final" decision, need to choose one:

    #1 Provide a mode where your opponent's choice doesn't matter(e.g. Intuition for 3 Emrakul; Gift for only entombing 2 cards).

    #2 Be garbage. (e.g. Steam augury;Truth or tale)

    #3 Going to be garbage. (e.g. Browbeat)

    This new card can't choose #1, and...
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by Tokugawa View Post
    Every card which let opponent making the "final" decision, need to choose one:

    #1 Provide a mode where your opponent's choice doesn't matter(e.g. Intuition for 3 Emrakul; Gift for only entombing 2 cards).

    #2 Be garbage. (e.g. Steam augury;Truth or tale)

    #3 Going to be garbage. (e.g. Browbeat)

    This new card can't choose #1, and...
    The only way this card is playable is if the deck is redundant. If both piles consist of nothing but 1 mana cantrips that fuel prowess then it is reasonable but if there is much variance you will always get the worse pile. I think we all know there are better options in legacy it is fun to imagine what a new card could do in a deck though.

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    How would you guys board against Death and Taxes with this deck?

    http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=19839&iddeck=151090

    Creatures [15]

    1 Goblin Guide
    2 Grim Lavamancer
    4 Delver of Secrets
    4 Monastery Swiftspear
    4 Snapcaster Mage

    Instants [16]

    2 Price of Progress
    2 Spell Pierce
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Force of Will
    4 Lightning Bolt

    Sorceries [11]

    1 Forked Bolt
    2 Ponder
    4 Chain Lightning
    4 Gitaxian Probe

    Lands [18]

    2 Island
    2 Mountain
    3 Bloodstained Mire
    3 Flooded Strand
    4 Scalding Tarn
    4 Volcanic Island

    Sideboard [15]

    2 Flusterstorm
    1 Grim Lavamancer
    1 Price of Progress
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Smash to Smithereens
    3 Sulfuric Vortex
    2 Surgical Extraction
    2 Vapor Snag
    Re: Eldritch Moon and Emrakul

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    You're right that the set symbol is a pretty big giveaway though, and it's not like anyone was expecting anything else after the last block. It's like they brought out Neil Pert and Alex Lifeson, then announced a "mysterious special guest" would be joining them. Well of course it's fucking Geddy Lee.

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    - Guide
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    + Grim
    + Smash
    + Surgical Ext

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    Interesting! What's the Surgical for?
    Re: Eldritch Moon and Emrakul

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    You're right that the set symbol is a pretty big giveaway though, and it's not like anyone was expecting anything else after the last block. It's like they brought out Neil Pert and Alex Lifeson, then announced a "mysterious special guest" would be joining them. Well of course it's fucking Geddy Lee.

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Quote Originally Posted by .Ix View Post
    Interesting! What's the Surgical for?
    Personally, I would Smash their AEther Vial then Surgical them.
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    Surgical is bad against D+T. Even if you have the chance to Smash a Vial and Surgical it, you're better off letting them topdeck their Vials instead of relevant cards. Against a deck like U/R Delver, a late game Vial is the single worst thing to draw.

    Vortex can be hard to cast, but Batterskull/Jitte beat you otherwise. Vapor Snag is also okay.

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    Unless you knew your opponent's hand had at least one copy of a card that you were surgical-ing, I wouldn't do it.

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Another Stormchaser build goes 5-0 in MTGO leagues... This time with 2x TNN.

    http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/388981

    Funny, cuz I played against dredgemundo last night, but he was back to his Grixis Delver deck.
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    So smash, grim, vortex for pierce, price, and some FOW? I think I have space for a Null Rod in the SB. I could run it over a Vapor Snag. How does this deck beat Glacial Chasm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    You're right that the set symbol is a pretty big giveaway though, and it's not like anyone was expecting anything else after the last block. It's like they brought out Neil Pert and Alex Lifeson, then announced a "mysterious special guest" would be joining them. Well of course it's fucking Geddy Lee.

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