How easy is it gonna be to get Delirium online? Because the payoff here looks really good.
Do we really need more Rhinos in the deck?Originally Posted by Navsi
How easy is it gonna be to get Delirium online? Because the payoff here looks really good.
We all know the answer.
Less easy than casting GSZ. It does get really close though. Maybe as a toy for the GBC Fit build. Early game it could fetch you a Wastes, lategame it turns into Reality Smasher.
How easy is it gonna be to get Delirium online? Because the payoff here looks really good.
Edit: rubble made me lol.
It isn't restricted to green creatures or basic lands when it's live which seems pretty good. You might be right in the GBC lists, also getting Kozilek or something.
Think it might be good enough for the BUG lists? They have a lot of good nongreen creatures and no way to search for them, and Strixes, fetches and blue instants to enable Delirium with.
I don't know that it's good enough right now, but it immediately replaces Oath of Nissa in the "future possibilities" box. I believe that Ancient Stirrings is probably better for the GBC version, although this can also get Primeval, at the cost not being able to get Cloudpost/Glimmerpost early.
For right now, I put it into the camp of "consider this if/when Top gets banned." It's also likely worse than the first Diabolic Intent, which most of us are not running at the moment.
I don't think this is better than Green Sun... but you can cast it with Teeg out :) Whereas, Teeg blocks GSZ from fetching Rhinos.
I'm not even considering trading in my second Diabolic Intent for it. The ability to find a Deed/PtE has saved my ass too many times to give it up.
Important note about Delirum which can be overlooked - You need to have 4 types of cards in YOUR graveyard. Not sure how good it will be, but some graveyard hate can be key solution to make those card useless.
We can read too, you know. It's a problem in general, even before touching on graveyard hate. Or just using your DRS/Scavenging Ooze/Meren or, during the holidays, Karador.
With GSZ around and Therapy self-exiled, it's really quite rare having 4 types in gy - most common in my GBC build:
- Land (enough)
- Creature (enough)
- Sorceries (4 Self-exiling, 4 GSZ - read non)
- Instants (3 MD/a lot of in SB)
- Enchantment (4 MD)
- Artifact (5 MD/where 2 of are creatures)
- Walkers (1-2 MD)
I think it can work in some BUG decks with Hymn to Tourach/Permission decks/Walker decks.
http://mythicspoiler.com/soi/cards/s...imnemesis.html
New Sorin 0_0 that +1 is great!
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Card advantage AND a win condition (we have 3 tops to manipulate our deck) while plusing And without using the battlefield (garruk/elspeth)? 6 mana is a lot but this seems better than elspeth against control?? Even easier on our mana.
Am I missing something? This seems good to me
E: he even defends himself against goyf / kills jace.
AND his ult is summon the lost boys! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093437/
MTGO: Ricardio
Nic Fit: legacy's magical EDH deck
I came here to party and resolve prime time triggers.
"Well, I ain't calling you a truther." -Josh
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New Sorin is a very good one of in Junk Nic Fit. Definitely going to test him.
Card advantage and a finisher. Top/Sylvan in to Sigarda, Baneslayer, Rhino, Titan, then +1 on Sorin. Or, -X when you're low on life. Third ability? As if we would ever need it!
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Yes. The key part is that he does not use the battlefield to win, plus he gives ca.Card advantage and a finisher. Top/Sylvan in to Sigarda, Baneslayer, Rhino, Titan, then +1 on Sorin. Or, -X when you're low on life. Third ability? As if we would ever need it!
This might replace elspeth: she only is better cmc wise, but her soldiers are still weak to removal and terminus.
He's a vraska / Ob Nixilis with a much better wincon for 1 more mana. (He comes down and kills Jace!) I'm gnna try him for sure
@Ralf, yea I'm a fan of the hatebear plan against the combo decks, and I'm always looking for sideboard cards that overlap with miracles, shame you haven't done testing with it yet, but I'll give it a go at some point and let you know what I find
Maybe I wasn't clear.
I did test it so that's why it is in my SB now
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Oe, i like that new Sorin.
It shoots down Jace.
It gives extra reach on top of Rhino. Juicy lucy.
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Oh awesome, I asked how many times you've cast it in testing or real play and the only time you mentions was 10 years ago :PMaybe I wasn't clear.
I did test it so that's why it is in my SB now
Is it actually "great" against shardless? It counters suspended visions but shardless agent can just hit a creature and then it doesn't do anything. I get that it cantrips but there's still a mana investment there.
I am sold on it against various combo decks (buying a turn and digging for answers against elves is legit)
If it actually starts doing work as a counterspell against miracles then I'll really be sold :)
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