[Primer/Deck] Nic Fit

[Bobboviking]

This is what i am playing atm:

MD (61):
3 Forest
2 Plains
2 Swamp
2 Bayou
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Windswept Heath
1 Karakas
2 Phyrexian Tower

4 Veteran Explorer
2 Deathrite Shaman
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Eternal Witness
4 Siege Rhino
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons

3 Path to Exile
3 Abrupt Decay

4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Painful Truths
1 Toxic Deluge

3 Sensei's Divining Top

1 Sylvan Library
2 Pernicious Deed

1 Sorin, Grim Nemesis

SB:
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
2 Extirpate
1 Golgari Charm
1 Krosan Grip
3 Thoughtseize
2 Pithing Needle
1 Pernicious Deed
2 Choke

[uncletiggy]

4 vet
1 drs
1 scooze
1 qpm
1 nissa
1 ewitness
1 meren
4 rhino
1 sigarda
1 tusk

3 top
4 zenith

4 therapy*
2 games
4 decay
3 path
3 deed
1 pulse

21 lands*

2 bayou
1 scrub
1 savanna*
1 badlands
3 forest*
2 swamp
2 plains
1 tower
4 catacombs
2 marsh flats
2 wooded foothills

14g 14b 12w 9r

2 ts
2 needle
1 e. plague
1 grip
1 glissa
1 teeg
1 g charm
2 carpet
2 surgical
2 ensnaring bridge

[Bobmans]

Just finished 7 round tournament with 71 players. Nice tournament and pretty big attendence for Dutch standards.
Had a good start going 3-0-2 but lost the last 2 so 3-2-2 finish.

Played Punishing Fires.
1-1-1 Shardless
2-0 UR Thing in the Ice / Delver
1-1-1 Eldrazi Stompy
2-1 Affinity
2-0 Elves
0-2 Grixis Delver
1-2 Maverick

Mega grindy. 5 rounds over time and the other 2 with < 10 minutes left. Time to collapse...


Edit: anyone have any play with Anguised Unmaking and new Sorin?

[Echelon]

@Echelon: your attending at Duth Open today?

Would have liked to, but didn't know it was (now) yesterday. I'm afraid I missed it.

Concerning Sorin: I hope to do so next week. Looking forward to it. It's a bit of a break from my usual silliness that might actually solve one of my problems. The next tournament after that I'll likely try to run Manaless Dredge. It got a new toy and I had some crazy ideas so, you know .

[Hmmm_Really?]

64 person tournament at 401 Games Toronto yesterday, April 9th. Went 4-2 for a top 16 (I think. I left before Top 8 had been decided.)

Props to Daniel Fournier at 401 Games for a well organized comp. Also to all 6 of my opponents who were cool in both victory and defeat.

Fairly standard Junk Rhinos with a sideboard for my local field (almost...)

//Lands
1 Bayou
3 Forest
1 Karakas
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Plains
1 Savannah
2 Scrubland
2 Swamp
1 Taiga
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath

//Spells
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Diabolic Intent
4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Path to Exile
1 Painful Truths
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sylvan Library
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Vindicate

//Creatures
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Dragonlord Dromoka
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Eternal Witness
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Scavenging Ooze
4 Siege Rhino
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Qasali Pridemage
4 Veteran Explorer

//Sideboard
SB: 1 Null Rod (didn't draw vs DnT and Affinity)
SB: 1 Chains of Mephistopheles (not used)
SB: 1 Gaddock Teeg (not used)
SB: 2 Blood Moon (won a game vs Lands)
SB: 1 From the Ashes (came too late vs Lands)
SB: 3 Thoughtseize (used once vs Reanimator)
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction (Lands and Reanimator)
SB: 1 Sorin, Grim Nemesis (not used)
SB: 2 Slaughter Games (not used)

R1) Death & Taxes, Kevin: Loss 0-2
Ended up with 7 lands in play for both games and a Deed or Deluge would've been cheered like a stripper arriving at a frat party..... but they decided to stay home instead. Pre-game, I decided to remove Massacre from the sideboard. Well, I guess I guessed wrong.

R2) White Humans, Russ: Win 2-1
All the removal finally decided to come to the party in Games 1 and 3. Rhinos and Sigarda arrived later to switch off the lights :-)

R3) Lands, Adam: Loss 1-2
Quickly lose G1 to a turn 4 Marit. Quickly win G2 with 2x Surgical (taking Loam and Pfires), a turn 3 Blood Moon and an immediate scoop. G3 misplay when I miscounted mana and realized, too late, I could've tutored for a Path with Vet/Intent for the impending Marit. Maybe leaving out the 4th Path was a mistake.

R4) Burn, Mike: Cheap and lucky 2-0 win (phew!) as he had to drop and leave. But I'll take it. I'm not proud.

R5) Affinity, Sabrina: Win 2-0
Got to low life both games but Pernicious Deed for 2 was just brutal. I even apologized. G1 it cleared all 9 of her permanents. Same in G2 except for a lone Ancient Tomb. Then Rhinos.

R6) Reanimator, Matt: Win 2-1
Lose G1 but Surgical and Path and Rhinos in G2 & 3 did their job. Therapy/TS stole Reanimate and Exhume

So, it was a typical rock, paper, scissors day and, except for the lack of Massacre, I'm fairly happy with the sideboard for my local field. If I had faced Elves, Storm, Miracles or anyDelver (as I normally do) I would've had some answers. Some observations:

• 4th Path is definitely going back into the main. But for what?
• Rhinos.
• Massacre is definitely going back into the sb. But for what?
• Rhinos.
• Vindicate was all-star. Love that card. I drew it 3 times and each time it had an immediate impact on the board state.
• Rhinos.
• I dodged all the blue decks in the room and so Abrupt Decay was meh. But that's ok.
• Rhinos
• No Eldrazi (that I saw) so I didn't need From the Ashes.
• Rhinos.
• I dodged Miracles (they were there) so Teeg, Slaughter Games and Sorin stayed in the board.
• And, finally, Rhinos :-)

Over and out.

[sdematt]

64 person tournament at 401 Games Toronto yesterday, April 9th. Went 4-2 for a top 16 (I think. I left before Top 8 had been decided.)

Props to Daniel Fournier at 401 Games for a well organized comp. Also to all 6 of my opponents who were cool in both victory and defeat.

Fairly standard Junk Rhinos with a sideboard for my local field (almost...)

//Lands
1 Bayou
3 Forest
1 Karakas
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Plains
1 Savannah
2 Scrubland
2 Swamp
1 Taiga
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath

//Spells
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Diabolic Intent
4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Path to Exile
1 Painful Truths
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sylvan Library
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Vindicate

//Creatures
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Dragonlord Dromoka
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Eternal Witness
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Scavenging Ooze
4 Siege Rhino
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Qasali Pridemage
4 Veteran Explorer

//Sideboard
SB: 1 Null Rod (didn't draw vs DnT and Affinity)
SB: 1 Chains of Mephistopheles (not used)
SB: 1 Gaddock Teeg (not used)
SB: 2 Blood Moon (won a game vs Lands)
SB: 1 From the Ashes (came too late vs Lands)
SB: 3 Thoughtseize (used once vs Reanimator)
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction (Lands and Reanimator)
SB: 1 Sorin, Grim Nemesis (not used)
SB: 2 Slaughter Games (not used)

R1) Death & Taxes, Kevin: Loss 0-2
Ended up with 7 lands in play for both games and a Deed or Deluge would've been cheered like a stripper arriving at a frat party..... but they decided to stay home instead. Pre-game, I decided to remove Massacre from the sideboard. Well, I guess I guessed wrong.

R2) White Humans, Russ: Win 2-1
All the removal finally decided to come to the party in Games 1 and 3. Rhinos and Sigarda arrived later to switch off the lights :-)

R3) Lands, Adam: Loss 1-2
Quickly lose G1 to a turn 4 Marit. Quickly win G2 with 2x Surgical (taking Loam and Pfires), a turn 3 Blood Moon and an immediate scoop. G3 misplay when I miscounted mana and realized, too late, I could've tutored for a Path with Vet/Intent for the impending Marit. Maybe leaving out the 4th Path was a mistake.

R4) Burn, Mike: Cheap and lucky 2-0 win (phew!) as he had to drop and leave. But I'll take it. I'm not proud.

R5) Affinity, Sabrina: Win 2-0
Got to low life both games but Pernicious Deed for 2 was just brutal. I even apologized. G1 it cleared all 9 of her permanents. Same in G2 except for a lone Ancient Tomb. Then Rhinos.

R6) Reanimator, Matt: Win 2-1
Lose G1 but Surgical and Path and Rhinos in G2 & 3 did their job. Therapy/TS stole Reanimate and Exhume

So, it was a typical rock, paper, scissors day and, except for the lack of Massacre, I'm fairly happy with the sideboard for my local field. If I had faced Elves, Storm, Miracles or anyDelver (as I normally do) I would've had some answers. Some observations:

• 4th Path is definitely going back into the main. But for what?
• Rhinos.
• Massacre is definitely going back into the sb. But for what?
• Rhinos.
• Vindicate was all-star. Love that card. I drew it 3 times and each time it had an immediate impact on the board state.
• Rhinos.
• I dodged all the blue decks in the room and so Abrupt Decay was meh. But that's ok.
• Rhinos
• No Eldrazi (that I saw) so I didn't need From the Ashes.
• Rhinos.
• I dodged Miracles (they were there) so Teeg, Slaughter Games and Sorin stayed in the board.
• And, finally, Rhinos :-)

Over and out.

I'm assuming by the smiley face, Rhinos = good? ;)

[Plm]

Hi guys here is my current rhino list:

4 Veteran Explorer
4 Siege Rhino
1 Dryad Arbor
2 deathrite shaman
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Eternal Witness
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons

4 Cabal Therapy

2 Toxic Deluge
2 Pernicious Deed
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Path to Exile

4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Painful Truths

4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
2 Bayou
2 Savannah
1 Taiga
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Volrath's Stronghold
2 Forest
2 Swamp
2 Plains

SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 1 Golgari Charm
SB: 1 Gaddock Teeg
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Dryad Militant
SB: 1 Extirpate
SB: 3 Slaughter Games
SB: 1 Engineered Plague

My meta is Lands (so 4 path), miracle (maindeck Teeg) and elves (deluge instead of the slower but stronger deed).

I feel that the deck is strong but too slow when I don't open with dora (it feels that I'm always a turn behind) .Otherwise the feeling of slamming rhino after rhino, turn after turn , is priceless .

My current list tries to be able to function on a normal mana curve while also being able to bank on dora openings.

So I am retrying the good old stoneforge plan :


4 Veteran Explorer
2 Siege Rhino
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Deathrite Shaman
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Silhana Ledgewalker
1 Eternal Witness
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons

3 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Batterskull
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice

3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Diabolic Intent
3 Green Sun's Zenith

4 Cabal Therapy
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Path to Exile
2 Pernicious Deed

2 Forest
2 Plains
2 Swamp
4 Windswept Heath
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 Savannah
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Taiga
1 Karakas

SB: 3 Slaughter Games
SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Golgari Charm
SB: 1 Extirpate
SB: 1 Engineered Plague
SB: 1 Thrun, the Last Troll
SB: 1 Gadock teeg
The idea is that any equipment turns your fetches into a 4 turn clock as well as turning late game explorers into threats so the deck may overwhelm the removal thrown at it (not looking at you miracle) further testing is required.

[Hmmm_Really?]

I'm assuming by the smiley face, Rhinos = good? ;)

Yes, very good. Ricardio would have approved.

[Scott]

Continuing the Rhino love, Nic Fit w/ 4 Rhinos got 6th today at SCG Baltimore.

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=100730

[Echelon]

Glissa . That guy just made my day.

His manabase scares the shit out of me though. The number of initial mana sources for each colour is way in the red zone. I count 13/11/11 for G/B/W respectively. I wonder if he ran into colour screw in any of his games.

[Gheizen64]

Glissa . That guy just made my day.

His manabase scares the shit out of me though. The number of initial mana sources for each colour is way in the red zone. I count 13/11/11 for G/B/W respectively. I wonder if he ran into colour screw in any of his games.

Isn't there an artifact we can run with glissa? Like even a singleton pod seems interesting there, or even a sphere for mana fixing /cantripping

[Echelon]

Isn't there an artifact we can run with glissa? Like even a singleton pod seems interesting there, or even a sphere for mana fixing /cantripping

You can switch a Pernicious Deed for an Engineered Explosives, but that's about it.

I wouldn't bank on it though. She dies to every spotremoval known to man and is pretty much just run b/c of her keyword abilities. She plays out more like a deterrent than an actual creature slayer. No opponent would be stupid enough to send his creature right into her, especially if that'd also cause her to recur something as powerful as a Birthing Pod.

[Gheizen64]

Yeah i guess that's probably not realistic. If not, a singleton nihil spellbomb seems nice. It exile only opponent grave and cantrip at worst. But exiling graves is such a strong effect in most of this format with DRS everywhere and the resurgence of goyfs.

[Echelon]

Don't we have our own DRS & Scavenging Ooze for that..?

[Jain_Mor]

@Plm, you can PM me if you wanna discuss SFM builds :) Curious as to how you find Ledgewalker, I currently use Thrun, Sigarda and Tusk as my resilient equipment carriers.

@SCG list, do we know if the player frequents this forum? Cause the list looks very familiar and a report would be sweeeeeet

[Ricardio]

Yes, very good. Ricardio would have approved.

I approve wholeheartedly! Wonderful job!

The list finishing well is splendid. I hope we can find the individual and get a report, that would be great!

[madlameguy]

I'm the player that came in sixth yesterday. I'm working on a report, and will be posting it tonight. I will include comments on the manabase.

[zbrt]

Hi all:

I've been trying to find a 'base' list that I can proxy for myself and just goldfish/play against a buddy also using proxy decks (60 more important than a 75, at least for now I'll just throw together a generic SB), just to see if I'd enjoy the gameplay. Nic Fit seems to allow for so much customization, it's hard to figure out a basic list. Any suggestions?

[Bobmans]

Hi all:

I've been trying to find a 'base' list that I can proxy for myself and just goldfish/play against a buddy also using proxy decks (60 more important than a 75, at least for now I'll just throw together a generic SB), just to see if I'd enjoy the gameplay. Nic Fit seems to allow for so much customization, it's hard to figure out a basic list. Any suggestions?

Since no real "base" lists exist, i'd just slam together the most recent list with results. Hence, copy the SCG list from the gentlemen Madlameguy. :-D

And if that is not what your looking for, then feel free to check my signature lists.

[Ricardio]

I'm the player that came in sixth yesterday. I'm working on a report, and will be posting it tonight. I will include comments on the manabase.

GREAT! Congratulations on the finish and I know I speak for everyone when I say we are eagerly anticipating your experience.

Hi all:

I've been trying to find a 'base' list that I can proxy for myself and just goldfish/play against a buddy also using proxy decks (60 more important than a 75, at least for now I'll just throw together a generic SB), just to see if I'd enjoy the gameplay. Nic Fit seems to allow for so much customization, it's hard to figure out a basic list. Any suggestions?

I would look back a few pages and read up on the latest versions. Nic fit is an ever evolving deck that you want to learn and understand. Each card has a purpose and when you understand what it is, you can better use the resources of the deck. Some signatures have lists but when it comes down to actual 60, its pilots preference. Some people like courser, others don't. Some want to slam punishing fire with huntmasters, others prefer rhinos and paths. Read up and find what you think you want and go from there. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. there are only a few stupid questions. Tom seems to find them. haha /jk