[Primer] R/G Lands

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Let's focus in lands please.

Went 7-0 yesterday.

Well thanks for giving us so much to talk about.

[Dice_Box]

Come on guys, please don't make me mod this thread. This is the one place above all I don't want to.

[fluuu]

How do u guys beat show and tell?

[Dice_Box]

How do u guys beat show and tell?

Prime Time, Chalice (to stop them finding the combo) and Port. In Black, Thoughtseize.

[Chatto]

Never had a problem with SnT: fast combo and Karakas, together with manadenial. With a black splash TS and Duress should come in handy.

[barcode]

Sneak & Show: Pithing Needle, Chalice of the Void, Primeval Titan, Krosan Grip. Deny the mana and advance your plan.

Omniscience: Sphere of Resistance, Primeval Titan, Chalice of the Void, Krosan Grip. Denying mana is hard since they play so much dig. Try and kill quickly and be conscious about being wrecked by your own spheres.

[Goose]

Hello, lands has a new player. I've been playing aggro loam for a little while now and finally finished gathering all the cards I need for lands. The build I'm probably going to start off playing is the RG with all the black cards in the board that was linked a couple pages back piloted by Daryl. I've made the adjustments to include 4 Ports but I was wanting to try to get some feedback on an inclusion of Karakas somewhere in the 75. I get to play local about once a month and in the past two months I've played against Reanimator and Show & Tell once each. Would would opinions be on what to cut or is it even worth it?

[barcode]

Hello, lands has a new player. I've been playing aggro loam for a little while now and finally finished gathering all the cards I need for lands. The build I'm probably going to start off playing is the RG with all the black cards in the board that was linked a couple pages back piloted by Daryl. I've made the adjustments to include 4 Ports but I was wanting to try to get some feedback on an inclusion of Karakas somewhere in the 75. I get to play local about once a month and in the past two months I've played against Reanimator and Show & Tell once each. Would would opinions be on what to cut or is it even worth it?

You should have Karakas in your 75. What to cut? Don't play 4 Crop Rotation or 4 Dark Depths.

[filln]

Hello, lands has a new player. I've been playing aggro loam for a little while now and finally finished gathering all the cards I need for lands. The build I'm probably going to start off playing is the RG with all the black cards in the board that was linked a couple pages back piloted by Daryl. I've made the adjustments to include 4 Ports but I was wanting to try to get some feedback on an inclusion of Karakas somewhere in the 75. I get to play local about once a month and in the past two months I've played against Reanimator and Show & Tell once each. Would would opinions be on what to cut or is it even worth it?

Karakas also nice in the mirror too, if your meta has other Lands players.

[Philipp2293]

Karakas is not bad to have in the mirror, but nothing your oponent can't play around.

Took down a local tournament qualifier for a mixed format 16 player invitational at the end of the year with a Dark Lands list with Punishing Fire, basically this list with the following modifications:

http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=20117&iddeck=153330

MD -1 Karakas + 1 Crop Rotation
SB - 1 Tireless Tracker - 2 Sphere of Resistance + 1 Karakas + 1 Dark Depths + 1 Krosan Grip

My rounds were:

4C Delver (2-1)
Elves (2-0)
UR Omnishow (2-0)
Jund (ID)
Miracles (great player, wanted to play it out for standings) (1-0)

T8: BUG Delver (2-0)
T4: Elves (2-0)
Finals: Conceede by the miracles player, since he is already qualified anyway.

MVP was definitely Dark Confidant. Brought him in in every matchup and caught at least my Delver oponents with it. The Miracles game I only won because of being on the Dark Lands list. A timely Decay allowed my to take out his CB and resolve one more Loam and an Exploration, which gave me the ressources to Port his white sources and make a Token eot a few turns afterwards. Most annoying card I faced was Pithing Needle (out of Elves and Delver), but being on Dark Lands was fine also in this regard. I could theoretically run back this list today, but I'm considering running another deck, since there were a lot of not so great MUs represented (multiple Burn, Enchantress and Omnishow decks).

[barcode]

I played the white splash at a 1k today to test it out. Some highlights:

• Chalice into Gaddock Teeg was great vs Storm
• I killed UR Delver with Punishing Fire under Glacial Chasm lock at 1 life when he had bolt in hand. There were 3 cards left in my deck.
• Got the Chalice for 1 in play vs Miracles, but had my Teeg blind countered by Counterbalance with Wear//Tear. Lost with Thrun in my hand because I drew no lands.

Knight of the Reliquary was merely okay this outing since it only came up in the Storm matchup and really was just another attacker when he was locked out (with chalice 0 and teeg) at 2 from his Bob.

I lost to Death & Taxes while I failed to have any acceleration in game 3. I lost to Miracles (see above) and to Landstill having drew 0 sideboard cards.

Today wasn't my day. I felt crummy all day and had 2 GRVs, including shuffling my graveyard into my library during a fetch. I was on feature match twice, which was interesting.

All in all, a fun day finishing 3-3. The only reason I went out was to try and trade up my UL Mox Pearl for a Beta one but the store guy didn't show up so it was a bust. I will continue to test out the white cards and might try more creatures, maybe go back to a Rabblemaster.

[barcode]

So I found myself on camera. Game 1, they miss that I'm dead if a Chasm ever goes away because Hugo reveals a Lightning Bolt while I'm at 1 (graphics said 3 but that's a mistake on their side).

https://www.twitch.tv/facetofacegame...71150?t=55m55s

I misplayed in game 1: I should have rotated for the last Stage but I wanted more mana so I got the Riftstone Portal.

I got wrecked in game 2 (mulligan to 4) and then got there in turns for game 3 misplaying along the way (should have rotated the forest).

[hyp3r1on]

I've said it to barcode and I'll say it again...

Nothing warms my heart quite like seeing brainless aggro decks that dont play wasteland get a good old fashioned Glacial Chasm locking : )

[Chatto]

So I found myself on camera. Game 1, they miss that I'm dead if a Chasm ever goes away because Hugo reveals a Lightning Bolt while I'm at 1 (graphics said 3 but that's a mistake on their side).

https://www.twitch.tv/facetofacegame...71150?t=55m55s

I misplayed in game 1: I should have rotated for the last Stage but I wanted more mana so I got the Riftstone Portal.

I got wrecked in game 2 (mulligan to 4) and then got there in turns for game 3 misplaying along the way (should have rotated the forest).

Could you post your deck? How were the SoR for you? Still as awesome as always? G3 he was tapped out, right? Rotating your Forest, while still being good, wasn't neccesary.

So much awesome cards to play and so much untested, good to see you rocking the white splash!

[barcode]

Could you post your deck? How were the SoR for you? Still as awesome as always? G3 he was tapped out, right? Rotating your Forest, while still being good, wasn't neccesary.

So much awesome cards to play and so much untested, good to see you rocking the white splash!

Maindeck is something like:

4 Exploration
4 Fetches
4 Loam
4 Port
2 Taiga
2 Savannah
1 Forest
3 Depths
3 Crop Rotation
4 Stage
4 Mox Diamonds
4 Grove
3 Punishing Fire
1 Tabernacle
1 Karakas
1 Bog
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Riftstone Portal
2 Maze
4 Gamble
4 Wasteland
2 Horizon Canopy


Sideboard

2 Primeval Titan
1 Thrun
2 Gaddock Teeg
2 Chalice of the Void
3 Sphere of Resistance
4 Krosan Grip
1 Pithing Needle

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Did Thrun ever hit the battlefield? He always seems like he doesn't really fit no matter what deck he is in and with all your other dudes I could see him being a bit redundant.

On the other hand I love gaddock teeg when splashing white in RUGx or playing Aggro Loam. Chalice into that guy is a big problem for a lot of decks.

[barcode]

Did Thrun ever hit the battlefield? He always seems like he doesn't really fit no matter what deck he is in and with all your other dudes I could see him being a bit redundant.

On the other hand I love gaddock teeg when splashing white in RUGx or playing Aggro Loam. Chalice into that guy is a big problem for a lot of decks.

Thrun is in there to deal with Miracles. He never resolved (I never drew land #3 and my opponent blind flipped Wear//Tear to counter Teeg after Chalice for 1 resolved). I need to test him more.

[CovenantElite30]

Did anyone get a chance to see David's Long updated lands list?

He won a tournament on Saturday that SnapCasters were streaming.

Apparently he was talking about how he found a good build with Grove and Decay in the main.

I haven't been able to find the list, if anyone finds it could you post it here.

If David is on this forum could you posted your list here? Thank you.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Thrun is in there to deal with Miracles. He never resolved (I never drew land #3 and my opponent blind flipped Wear//Tear to counter Teeg after Chalice for 1 resolved). I need to test him more.

Yeah I figured it was targeting miracles. I've only played him in nic fit way back and that's a matchup where they don't usually board out terminus so it's a bit different but he still won some games there along with thragtusk.

[barcode]

So there's some wacky ideas for hard to interact with creature win conditions:

Dragonlord Dromoka (white splash)
Akroma, Angel of Fury (this is tough to cast with RRR)
Gaea's Revenge
Great Sable Stag

They're worth looking at, I imagine Gaea's Revenge is probably the best of the bunch.