instead of the fat eldrazi you could also run Damping Matrix. It is good against painter, MUD, elves, pox, belcher, D&T, somewhat against BUG (Deathrite shaman ability is not a mana ability), goblin, merfolk and playable in some other matches in case you have nothing to side in.
Quite right. I suppose my mind just goes to Emmy as it's the only one I've ever played or owned. Looks like original Ulamog is the one I would play.Originally Posted by Eldariel
I got pretty wrecked piloting this deck at a local event last night.
Round 1 vs Sneak & Show:
Game 1 he mulls to 5 and I have a pretty stacked hand with Mimic + Smashers. I drop a turn 1 Mimic, and he takes his draw and says, "I got pretty lucky," and proceeds to drop a turn 1 Griselbrand off Show & Tell. Apparently he drew the Lotus Petal which enabled him to make this play. Unlucky for me.
Game 2 I keep another good hand with a turn 2 Thought-Knot Seer which gets met with a Force of Will. He follows it up with a turn 2 Blood Moon. Sigh. I'm able to draw the game out landing a Chalice on 1, a Chalice on 3 (for Show & Tell), and a Trinisphere. At this point the only creatures I can cast are Mimics and Revokers (which I sided in for Sneak Attack). We play draw-go for ages, as his only real out is Sneak Attack, and I finally land a Mimic and start slowly chipping away. Unfortunately, he's able to find a Sneak Attack before I find Revoker, and he beats me with Griselbrand + Emrakul off a double Sneak Attack activation.
0-2, 0-1
Round 2 vs 4-color Deathblade:
I lose a quick game 1 to double True-Name + equipment. Game 2 I'm able to land a few big threats and then cast All Is Dust to wipe the board and attack for lethal. Same thing in game 3, but he topdecked a land to be able to hard cast his Batterskull, and I was able to hang around by forcing him to chump my Reality Smashers until he topdecked a Lingering Souls and flew over me with the Batterskull attached.
1-2, 0-2
Round 3 vs ???
My opponent apparently dropped and never told the tournament coordinator.
2-0, 1-2
Round 4 vs Death & Taxes
This legit seems like a nightmare matchup. Wasteland + Ports + Vials to get around our lock pieces make this pretty miserable. I lose to Mirran Crusader equipped with Jitte game 1 (as I'm holding a Dismember...sigh) and triple Stoneforge + neverending equipment game 2.
0-2, 1-3
Yikes. This was my first time piloting this deck, and it seems pretty explosive, but it appears that it falls prey to the same follies as all other stompy decks. Some decks just don't care about your prison pieces, and others just counter them. Blood Moon is miserable, too.
I'm running one main and trying to find a slot in the board for one more. I think two is the right number but slots are tight and it's hard to find something to give up. Fewer than two might never see one in a game where it matters.
I recall someone running Mind Stone x 2 and having success with it. Not sure if that's better than Wastes, and again, not sure what to cut but it might give better options than screwing with the mana base.
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Noloam said, "i lost an unloseable game against miracles, where i accidentally tapped my tomb for lethal.."
That's pretty interesting, I like that idea quite a bit.
Had a feature match at legacy tonight against infect. https://www.twitch.tv/redcapscorner/v/63218349 it starts around 39 minutes in. i went 2-2 tonight lost to 12 post and all in red and beat infect and imperial taxes.
Yesterday, I ended up playing a friend of mine who was running a home-brewed U/W Spirits Modern build (I didn't have a modern deck on me). Used Barook's build and I can tell you it feels great, although I can state dismember could hurt with the 4 damage taken.
Another 4-1 run:
R1: BG Suicide Zombies 2-1
R2: Nic Fit 2-0
R3: Mono C Eldrazi 2-0
R4: BUG Control 2-0
R5: UR Delver 1-2
UR Delver in particular doesn't seem like a good match-up since PoP is a pain in the ass and our removal isn't exactly great here. Not sure what changes to make yet. Maybe some Spatial Contortions in the SB, but cuts are difficult. I could cut one Dismember, but I'd like to have at least two Spatial Contortions. Flipped Delvers in general are pretty problematic.
I might consider cutthing Thorn completely for two Spatial Contortions and replace 1 Dismember for another Warping Wail to at least keep some combo hate. I'll test it in my new league run.
Edit: Next run: 3-2
R1: Mono C Eldrazi 2-1
R2: Grixis Delver 2-0
R3: UR Delver 0-2 (seriously, this match-up sucks and is getting more popular)
R4: Sneak & Show 2-1
R5: Miracles 1-2 (bad hands + mulligans G2 + G3, he had early Mentor both games)
I missed the third Dismember, so I'll go -1 Wail +1 Dismember in the board again.
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Still looking for the answer to why Containment Priest was removed from the list. Can anybody elaborate on this one? I want to know whether I should pick her up or not.
GP Toronto this weekend. Going in with White Eldrazi in mad side events. Will update here on my findings.
I solved this with kozilek's return and corrupted crossroads. Really, it's a sweeper against ur delver
Read the thread. It takes too many white non-Eldrazi sources to support properly.
Not an option for my version since 5 sources for red (two Crossroads, 3 Petals) are just way too few.
True, needs at least 7-8 red sources to work.
Maybe 1 ratched bomb in the side? It kills delver or tokens. Not ideal, but it has also other aplications.
I saw a guy using 2 eldrazi skyspawner. Not great, but could help. And vs moon it's good too if you manage to cast it before the moon enters in play. But i think it's just too cute, not a real application
How did the Spatial Contortions feel? The Rachet Bomb at 1 might be worth considering as a 5-0 MC build yesterday sided it. The problem like you said would be what to cut?
Can't say much about Contortions as it hasn't come up yet.
League run: 4-1 - yet another good run ruined by a Delver deck. Seriously, fuck Delvers.
R1: Esper Blade 2-1
R2: Shardless BUG 2-0
R3: Miracles 2-1
R4: Grixis Delver 0-2
R5: Miracles 2-0
Looking at my track record against various Delver variants with my particular version, I'm 3-6 so far, with UR Delver being the worst at 0-3. Something certainly needs to be done, although I'm unsure what's the right cause of action yet.
Edit: I don't know why exactly my opponent refused to waste me. Tripple KotR isn't that hot when Displacer is on the field.
Next league run: 3-2
R1: Zombardment 2-1
R2: Maverick 2-0
R3: Shardless BUG 2-1
R4: Grixis TITI Control 1-2
R5: Shardless BUG 1-2
R4 & R5 were lost due to pure lucksacking on part of my opponents and partly due to manascrew on my side. But since the league pairing system is fucked anyway, I was paired against my R5 opponent again to crush him good and proper in R1 of the next league.
6-1 in matches vs Shardless with my build so far. The aggressive approach really pays off big time against them.
Edit #2: One of the great things about this deck is that you can spam an entire league run in less than 2 hours.
Latest league run: 4-1 (this time with Ratchet Bomb in the flexslots; needs more testing)
R1: Shardless BUG 2-0 (revenge is sweet!)
R2: UR Delver 2-1 (slight green splash for Become Immense & Destructive Revelry)
R3: Miracles 1-2 (Nahiri might proof to be a massive problem, although the manascrew G3 didn't help either)
R4: Manaless Dredge 2-1 (they don't like Leyline of the Void - who would have thought?)
R5: Infect 2-0 (Displacer MVP)
Last edited by Barook; 04-30-2016 at 10:20 AM.
What are you bording in and out for shardless? i'm playing 74 of your 75. i'm 2-1 in sanctioned matches with this version but it still feels tough. What did you cut in the board for the 1 ratchet bomb? I have been playing with the idea of running 1t in place of the 3rd all is dust...thoughts?Can't say much about Contortions as it hasn't come up yet.
League run: 4-1 - yet another good run ruined by a Delver deck. Seriously, fuck Delvers.
R1: Esper Blade 2-1
R2: Shardless BUG 2-0
R3: Miracles 2-1
R4: Grixis Delver 0-2
R5: Miracles 2-0
Looking at my track record against various Delver variants with my particular version, I'm 3-6 so far, with UR Delver being the worst at 0-3. Something certainly needs to be done, although I'm unsure what's the right cause of action yet.
Edit: I don't know why exactly my opponent refused to waste me. Tripple KotR isn't that hot when Displacer is on the field.
Next league run: 3-2
R1: Zombardment 2-1
R2: Maverick 2-0
R3: Shardless BUG 2-1
R4: Grixis TITI Control 1-2
R5: Shardless BUG 1-2
R4 & R5 were lost due to pure lucksacking on part of my opponents and partly due to manascrew on my side. But since the league pairing system is fucked anyway, I was paired against my R5 opponent again to crush him good and proper in R1 of the next league.
6-1 in matches vs Shardless with my build so far. The aggressive approach really pays off big time against them.
Edit #2: One of the great things about this deck is that you can spam an entire league run in less than 2 hours.
Latest league run: 4-1 (this time with Ratchet Bomb in the flexslots; needs more testing)
R1: Shardless BUG 2-0 (revenge is sweet!)
R2: UR Delver 2-1 (slight green splash for Become Immense & Destructive Revelry)
R3: Miracles 1-2 (Nahiri might proof to be a massive problem, although the manascrew G3 didn't help either)
R4: Manaless Dredge 2-1 (they don't like Leyline of the Void - who would have thought?
R5: Infect 2-0 (Displacer MVP)
Here you go
Displacer goes due to lack of good targets and requiring white mana. Jitte is meh and so is CotV. It also turns out that you deprive them of good AD targets this way (only Mimic & Reshaper left).
I cut both Thorns to gain my flexslots as I brought them in rarely anyway. Do NOT go below 3x All is Dust.
I'm using Barook's list on Xmage, I got 5-0 then 7-1 and now I'm 10-5 :/
Lost to mirror (Maraxus), storm, BUG, and twice to 12 post. So far I'm thinking 3 dismembers is too much and will probably cut one more thing for the helm combo.
Xmage have a weird field compared to paper magic, in over 20 matches (some where not completed, so I don't count them on W/L) I haven't faced one D&T, Burn, Esper or elves. These matches are very common in Brazil's meta, so I gotta train them as much as possible.
Last edited by Silverflame; 04-30-2016 at 10:50 PM.
Thanks man, wasn't sure if it changed.
Went 4-0-2 into T8, losing in QF at a 1.5k just now. 47 players, beat Deathblade x2 , Death and Taxes, and BUG Loam, lost to Miracles. Was a couple cards off from Barook's list, I was very very underwhelmed by the SB in general - All is Dust and World Breaker always felt too late to be relevant (given that I played 4 wasteland decks in swiss), and only just okay against miracles. Main Deck felt great though, except for Lotus Petal (Which I never had to pop on curve, it was always just in a replacement for a missed land), but that's a small sample where I just didn't have hands where that was relevant (always wanting to instead keep it in hand to bluff because I had other colored sources and better on curve plays).
As for the SB, I'd want to try more prison pieces, but then again I didn't play the list when they ran more of them anyways, so its possible I'm just over valuing them in my head.
You can't expect All is Dust & World Breaker to work as intended when you run 4x Wasteland.
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