[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[Stan]

I just re-read my post and the post I quoted, and I see no mention of tournaments. Actually, I specifically mentioned I wouldn't win any Concours.

You compared the audience of amateur mechanics and car restoration hobbyists on one side with Magic players on the other. The use of specific authentic parts on cars was referred to as a point of reference, argueing that the Magic players are more elitist. The obvious analogy with authentic car parts in this comparison is the use of 'authentic cards', meaning a ban of proxies. This can only be enforced in a tournament setting, just as the use of authentic parts can only have other consequences besides a snarky comment from a fellow hobbyist in the setting of a hypothetical competition which dictates which restaurations are valid and which aren't. The comparison is valid.

[Mr.C]

You compared the audience of amateur mechanics and car restoration hobbyists on one side with Magic players on the other. The use of specific authentic parts on cars was referred to as a point of reference, argueing that the Magic players are more elitist. The obvious analogy with authentic car parts in this comparison is the use of 'authentic cards', meaning a ban of proxies. This can only be enforced in a tournament setting, just as the use of authentic parts can only have other consequences besides a snarky comment from a fellow hobbyist in the setting of a hypothetical competition which dictates which restaurations are valid and which aren't. The comparison is valid.

He asked how I could love a format that I don't invest in. I responded with an analogy that apparently went over a few people's heads.

Let me rephrase it:

You can love cars and not want to spend $$$ to win Pebble Beach, and not get shit on by other enthusiasts.

Apparently, loving Legacy but refusing to 'invest' in the yhe format is inconceivable.

See the difference?

[sdematt]

He asked how I could love a format that I don't invest in. I responded with an analogy that apparently went over a few people's heads.

Let me rephrase it:

You can love cars and not want to spend $$$ to win Pebble Beach, and not get shit on by other enthusiasts.

Apparently, loving Legacy but refusing to 'invest' in the yhe format is inconceivable.

See the difference?

Exactly. Just because I don't have a garage princess Ferrari doesn't mean I'm not an enthusiast.

[hymnyou]

This thread sucks

[Sidneyious]

I understand everything Mr.C is trying to convey.

[ESG]

Just because I don't have a garage princess Ferrari that I bought with Beta duals in a sandwich baggie ...

Fixed that for you. ;)

[jrsthethird]

There's one thing I hope we can all agree on:

Fords are the FTV foils of cars.

[sdematt]

The only reason I'm okay with Ford is because of the early Mustang models, and even then, I'm only getting one to complete the horsey trifecta (Ford, Ferrari, Porsche).

-Matt

[Mr.C]

There's one thing I hope we can all agree on:

Fords are the FTV foils of cars.

ew, no. They're like the Premium Decks of cars.

[CutthroatCasual]

I just re-read my post and the post I quoted, and I see no mention of tournaments. Actually, I specifically mentioned I wouldn't win any Concours.

You wouldn't be able to enter any Concours AFAIK. So Stan has a point: counterfeit cards are illegal for the "show." It's fine–though still not really because buying fake shit is generally frowned upon even in automotive circles: it's one thing to buy BBS-reps made by König, it's a whole other deal to buy Volk-knockoffs (and that's the difference: replicas vs. knockoffs) made by Rota–to use proxies at the kitchen table/casual playtesting. However, when you obtain them for the sole purpose to competing with them, that's when you're no longer kosher.

[Echelon]

The only reason I'm okay with Ford is because of the early Mustang models, and even then, I'm only getting one to complete the horsey trifecta (Ford, Ferrari, Porsche).

-Matt

Oh, Zatarra, the stories you tell.

[CutthroatCasual]

So is this a fake FoW?

https://i.imgur.com/dXeMRYo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tqT3kV5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xr6ySI0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Laif2qy.jpg

I already have my thoughts. What say you?

[rlesko]

So is this a fake FoW?

https://i.imgur.com/dXeMRYo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tqT3kV5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xr6ySI0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Laif2qy.jpg

I already have my thoughts. What say you?

I think so, font and mana symbols seem off

[Mr Miagi]

seems fine to me ..

[phonics]

I think so, font and mana symbols seem off

It looks like the print pattern is seamless between the circle in the mana symbol and the border, iirc they should be printed separately on the card.

[CutthroatCasual]

The symbols/text are printed separately but the mana symbol circles are part of the same layer as the border.

FWIW the OP also posted a Tundra that he got with the FoW and the Tundra was a fake.

[Mr.C]

You wouldn't be able to enter any Concours AFAIK. So Stan has a point: counterfeit cards are illegal for the "show." It's fine–though still not really because buying fake shit is generally frowned upon even in automotive circles: it's one thing to buy BBS-reps made by König, it's a whole other deal to buy Volk-knockoffs (and that's the difference: replicas vs. knockoffs) made by Rota–to use proxies at the kitchen table/casual playtesting. However, when you obtain them for the sole purpose to competing with them, that's when you're no longer kosher.

Oh, I definitely could enter, but judges would look at my car and laugh hysterically (or DQ it, like it would happen in a Legacy tournament). But again, that was not what I said in my original post lol.

[chemicalstylez]

The German language thing i'll never get.... When i bought my FBB lands i went with whatever the cheapest was lol. Safe to say I have many Italian lands . If i found a good deal on a German FBB I'd no sooner flip it and pocket the extra cash.

[Esper3k]

The German language thing i'll never get.... When i bought my FBB lands i went with whatever the cheapest was lol. Safe to say I have many Italian lands . If i found a good deal on a German FBB I'd no sooner flip it and pocket the extra cash.

You're talking about a game where people will spend thousands of dollars on a small piece of cardboard.

People like what they like :)

[iamajellydonut]

The German language thing i'll never get.... When i bought my FBB lands i went with whatever the cheapest was lol. Safe to say I have many Italian lands . If i found a good deal on a German FBB I'd no sooner flip it and pocket the extra cash.

That's like buying a Ferrari with a ding in it so that you can save some money. Go balls out or just get HP Revised. Any middle ground is just ratchet and idiotic.