If DnT is a concern then you should max out on punishing fires, since it's easily the best card against that deck. I would say drop grudge in favor of another decay, and I would never leave home without a 4th exploration in general.Originally Posted by CovenantElite30
to make room I would recommend cutting at least one manabond, the 4th depths (just my opinion), grudge, vortex, and bog (unless you think you need it)
-1 molten vortex
-1 grudge
-1 depths
-1 bog
-1 mana bond
+2 punishing fire
+1 exploration
+1 grove of the burn willows
+1 abrupt decay
this is pretty close to the list I've been playing recently, and it feels quite solid.
I like the changes. How should I hedge against burn? That's why I was playing the 2 manabond and 4 dark depths main to combo faster.
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Also I'm planning on playing 3 tireless trackers in the side in place of Bob. Would you guys bring in tireless tracker vs D&T?
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tracker seems fine against dnt.
Got my A$$ kicked yet again round 1 vs burn. Brought in 2 sphere, 2 chalice, 1 zuran, 1 courser. Took out 4 wasteland, 1 karakas, 1 tranquil. Is this correct?
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you want to keep some number of wastelands to waste your own lands :( it feel bad, but it needs to be done. you need an out to price of prog.
stage copying a basic is an all star.
exploration effect+ chasm+stage. p fire, and keep em off 3 mana.
Oops, yeah that's the exact article.
Cool. I'm dumping a bunch of EDH staples and I think I can put most of the deck together (save for the Tabby of course)
My meta is quite a bit of fair decks. Eldrazi, DnT, Grixis Delver. Some Shardless.
Nice! Welcome, just one thing: Tabernacle is a cornerstone of this deck. You'll be needing one. Your deck will function, only not that good.
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And loam, but that's so evident you probably didn't mention it. (And then dredge into the second stage)
@ CovenantELite30: If you run a blacksplash, you could consider Urborg. It's acceleration you can croprotate for, if you also have access to both Stage and Depths, for a T3 token and a T4 kill. It's a cornercase, but adds up to the number of scenario's of an accelerated token, besides exploration and mox.
So update, I went 0-2 drop for a 5 round fnm last night. Got the bye round 3 so felt like dropping. I get to experience the excellence of Tireless Tracker. I played 3 in my sideboard and brought them in VS D&T. I basically won that game I had TT on board, got crazy big and I basically drew a ton of my deck. I think TT is better then Bob in the long game.y sideboard plan against D&T was to take all the loams out and become and more creature value deck with TT and Primeval which won me the game. Was very good and I plan on keeping them in the sideboard.
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My Damie. :) :) :)
tracker is v good in those games.
Yep!
I don't mind buying a beat up one later on down the line. Our weeklies allow proxies though, so I'm not too concerned.
just sleeving up for a Face2Face event tomorrow (Toronto, ON). This is my list, tell me what you think.
Main
4 Exploration
2 Manabond
4 Mox Diamond
4 Loam
4 Crop Rotation
4 Gamble
3 Punishing Fire
4 Wasteland
4 Ports
4 Stage
4 Depths
4 Grove
4 Fetches
3 Mazes
2 Taiga
2 Thicket
1 Forest
1 Tabernackle
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Bayou
Sideboard:
4 Grip
4 Spheres
3 Thoughtseize
3 Tireless trackers
1 Bog
am not feeling very confident about the board / a few slots in the main but after testing w/ the black splash the past few weeks I feel this is the best configuration.
Was having trouble w/o a karakas in the 75 but I often feel that the card does not do enough in the matchups you need it.
Let me know what you guys think and any suggestions / constructive crit always welcome.
@Quijbo
If I were you, I would bring in the main the 4th punishing fire and the bog at least and would cut one thicket and one manabond. I would add in the sdb one more thoughtseize and a karakas.
If you want to give a try to the list I've been running for 5 tournaments (ending at 12 out 64, 1 out 8, 3 out 8, 1 out 14 and 1 out 8) :
Main
4 Exploration
4 Mox Diamond
4 Loam
4 Crop Rotation
4 Gamble
3 Punishing Fire
3 abrupt decay
4 Wasteland
4 Ports
4 Stage
3 Depths
1 bog
1 karakas
3 Grove
4 Fetches
3 Mazes
2 Taiga
1 Thicket
1 Forest
1 Tabernacle
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Bayou
Sideboard:
3 Grip
4 Spheres
1 Dark depths
3 confidant
2 chalice of the void
2 boil
I feel pretty confident with the list. STill have to choose between choke and boil in the sdb.
So what cards do you guys think from lands will be in ETM? My guess is Port, Karakas, Depths, Gamble.
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Is there a general SB guide for the dark lands variants?
Depths was announced in a new FTV, so I doubt they'll print it in EMA too. Everybody is saying Port reprint. I just traded for mine, but I don't mind too much if they get reprinted and drop a bit in price. #oldart I'd like to see a Karakas reprint. Gamble reprint would be nice too. Although I just traded for those too.
send a link to your depths announcement.
Oops I guess it wasn't 'officially confirmed' as Dark Depths, but there aren't many cards that would fit the bill. I must've imagined it was confirmed while talking about it with friends, lol
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...ore-2016-02-29
"Fifteen premium foil cards and one token, including three with new art."
Unless there are other cards that have a high lore impact, and make a token
Take this as you will: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/co...lore_spoilers/
Yeah I don't see any announcement on Dark Depths being in the next FTV.
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See my reply right above yours
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