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    Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter

    I replaced her with a Nahiri and haven't looked back. Both game winning, both synergistic, one less fragile than the other.

    I do miss Jaya though

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandax View Post
    I replaced her with a Nahiri and haven't looked back. Both game winning, both synergistic, one less fragile than the other.

    I do miss Jaya though
    That seems like a reasonable move but do you have an answer for chalice on 1? I know our odds of winning game 1 when the opponent gets a turn1 chalice on 1 greatly decreases, but I have definitely broken out of it with Jaya and a painter on blue on a few occasions.

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    I guess his out becomes ulting Nahiri and combo out immediately. I think your right in that this would be much harder than jaya but the Utility Nahiri provides in not being a creature is useful. Might need to get a few others testing the change to see if it's just better or will be a preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDBobPlissken View Post
    That seems like a reasonable move but do you have an answer for chalice on 1? I know our odds of winning game 1 when the opponent gets a turn1 chalice on 1 greatly decreases, but I have definitely broken out of it with Jaya and a painter on blue on a few occasions.
    Yeah i do, main deck manic Vandal

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandax View Post
    Yeah i do, main deck manic Vandal
    I'm doing a main-deck Manic Vandal.

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    I know I'm a bit late for this since someone asked pages ago, I'll be making my way to GP Columbus; who else is coming?

    Also, I just really can't imagine taking out Jaya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandax View Post
    I replaced her with a Nahiri and haven't looked back. Both game winning, both synergistic, one less fragile than the other.

    I do miss Jaya though
    One of my favorite aspects about Jaya is that she can proactively help you from a bad boardstate if she is not answered quickly, I don't think that Nahiri does this well enough.

    If you don't mind sharing would you mind posting your current list? Is Jaya still in the 75? What matchups do you end up boarding out the Nahiri if at all? My baseline so far has been if they have some big threat that hinders our gameplan i.e. chalice or counterbalance i'll bring her in. I think there are some situations against decks like d&t where you might also want her but that can also get kind of tricky with revokers and sideboard cards that d&t brings in.

    My only gripe with the RW planeswalkers is that it doesn't feel like we have enough white sources to cast them consistently. Maybe it's just a result of bad draws/me playing poorly but there have been a lot of instances where I have been unable to cast her because I have a moon out and was either unable to find or previously used my petals for something else or I stumbled on my mana a little. Do you guys feel the same way? I feel like I want to up my plateau count to 3 and lotus petal count to 4 from the regular 2/3 to support them.

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    Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter

    My main deck is pretty much like Jacks, same ratios of cards. In my flex spots I have manic vandal, nahiri, revoker. My sideboard is where I make big changes:
    4 lightning bolt
    1 plains
    1 burrenton forge tender
    1 worship
    2 containment priest
    1 canonist
    2 rip
    1 helm
    1 3ball
    1 EE

    I'll add my fetchlands are 4 Mesa and one other red one that i side out for the plains. It's geared to take advantage of chalice and creature decks. As of late there's a lot of decks in my area that beat down to win, think delver, eldrazi, and dnt. Lightning bolt is something I'll try out next time. Partly because mine are beta.


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    Rocking Painter at the GP. See everyone there!

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    Good luck to all fellow painters, may variance be on your side

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    I have been discussing this with a lot of people in the past 24 hours on if boarding in thorn of amethyst or trinisphere is correct against grixis delver to contain young pyromancer. I want to get your guys opinion's. I know it depends slightly on the list. We were also wondering, if I keep in ensnaring bridge, do I shave a REB or two because they don't play that many blue spells and sometimes it rots in your hand while they attack you with pyromancer tokens that would otherwise have to stay back. For reference I'll post the list I registered. (Not sure if I like the Emrakul or not.)

    4x Ancient Tomb
    4x Blood Moon
    2x Bloodstained Mire
    3x City of Traitors
    2x Enlightened Tutor
    2x Ensnaring Bridge
    3x Goblin Welder
    1x Great Furnace
    4x Grindstone
    4x Imperial Recruiter
    1x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
    2x Lotus Petal
    1x Magus of the Moon
    4x Mountain
    1x Nahiri, the Harbinger
    4x Painter's Servant
    1x Phyrexian Revoker
    2x Plateau
    4x Pyroblast
    2x Red Elemental Blast
    3x Sensei's Divining Top
    3x Simian Spirit Guide
    3x Wooded Foothills

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    1x Duergar Hedge-Mage
    1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    1x Ensnaring Bridge
    1x Ethersworn Canonist
    4x Lightning Bolt
    1x Nahiri, the Harbinger
    1x Pyrokinesis
    1x Ratchet Bomb
    1x Rest in Peace
    1x Thorn of Amethyst
    1x Tormod's Crypt
    1x Trinisphere

    Current board plan:
    -2 enlightened tutor
    -1 magus of the moon
    -1 jaya ballard, task mage
    -1 Nahiri, the harbinger
    -1 phyrexian revoker
    -1 Red Elemental Blast

    +4 Lightning Bolt
    +1 Pyrokineses
    +1 Ensnaring Bridge
    +1 Ratchet Bomb

    So far I've seen 7 people playing painter. 2 are with blue though
    Last edited by Mapson; 06-11-2016 at 12:34 PM.

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    I personally just played against grixis and Jaya was a star. If she eats a lightning bolt, you saved your painter, if she lives, everything they own dies. PM me your table number next round and we can talk painter.

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    Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter

    I counted about 6 non blue painters but very few I think 2 were near the high tables (X-2) as of round 7

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    6/3

    Wins:
    Infect 2/1
    Grixis Delver 2/0
    D&T 2/1
    Lands 2/0
    Miracles 2/0
    Esper Stoneblade 2/0

    Losses:
    Miracles 0/2
    Miracles 0/2
    Nic Fit 0/2

    Overall happy with the list, and Miracles is a pain of a match up when they keep going T1 Top, T2 Balance with FoW back up. Nic Fit just ruined me with Therapy, Abrupt Decay, and Prenacious Deed. I wish I could have played Eldrazi every round :(

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    Im also 6/3, I'll post more about it later.

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    Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter

    Also squeaked in but did awful on day 2. Still ended positive but not pleased. Deck felt great. Had to Mulligan a lot of no landers. A few only city of traitors hands too.

    The deck top 16d in Prague
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    Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter

    Hmm, day two break down said there weren't any painters day two. Glad someone made it


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    I dropped from the event very early because I was sick. I was happy to meet a few fellow Painters as well. Also there was a Sweet Mono Blue Painter running around I didnt get a chance to talk to the guy though.

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    Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter

    Grand prix Prague had one painter in the top 16.

    Two stand outs are the fiery confluence and sudden shock in the sideboard.

    Creatura (16)
    3 Goblin Welder
    4 Painter's Servant
    1 Spellskite
    1 Phyrexian Revoker
    1 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
    4 Imperial Recruiter
    2 Simian Spirit Guide
    Istantaneo (8)
    4 Pyroblast
    3 Red Elemental Blast
    1 Enlightened Tutor
    Artefatto (14)
    4 Grindstone
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    3 Lotus Petal
    3 Ensnaring Bridge
    1 Great Furnace
    Incantesimo (4)
    4 Blood Moon
    Terra (18)
    4 Ancient Tomb
    3 City of Traitors
    4 Mountain
    2 Plateau
    3 Arid Mesa
    2 Scalding Tarn
    60 Carte
    Sideboard (15)
    1 Red Elemental Blast
    1 Surgical Extraction
    3 Ethersworn Canonist
    2 Containment Priest
    3 Sudden Shock
    1 Magus of the Moon
    3 Fiery Confluence
    1 Koth of the Hammer



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    Anyone want to explain the subtle angles of fiery confluence to me? What are we hedging against here?

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