Big Red (Mono-R Sneak Attack)

[James718]

Swap for Crystal Vein and Mountain? Its obnoxiously weak to wasteland and storm, Not having red sources is a thing, the more moons you play, the less its a thing. Really depends how deep you want the game to go, if you want to do something turn one every game, it's bad. Playing it turn 2 feels awful. I haven't tried it without, would be curious to hear of your success. Heading to eternal weekend next week?

At this point basic mountain is what I'll try.

Unfortunately I can't. I live in Miami and can't travel that much. I'd love to get to Orlando though, but even that is a stretch.

[lost_ronin_soul]

Seeing Hdeck throughout the event was cool. I went 10-5 in the 15 round event. The games were sweet though. I unlocked the achievement of beating a turn one Iona, Shield of Emeria this weekend (see round 1 for details in my tournament report right herehttp://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...635#post954635).

// Lands
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
9 Mountain
3 Sandstone Needle

// Creatures
4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Godo, Bandit Warlord
4 Simian Spirit Guide
3 Worldspine Wurm

// Instants
4 Seething Song
4 Through the Breach

// Enchantments
4 Sneak Attack

// Artifacts
3 Batterskull
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Lotus Petal
3 Trinisphere

// Sideboard
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Inferno Titan
4 Magus of the Moon
2 Pyromancy
1 Trinisphere

[AceOfJacks]

Time for yet another stupid question.

Is it possible to cut Chalices and try Faithless Looting in the main deck? Or possibly cut chalices and blood moons, and add faithless looting + tormenting voice? Digging is nice, and makes the deck a little more consistent, but unlike the blue version, it still has no countermagic. Maybe something like this:

Land - 20
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
10 Mountain

Non-land Accel - 12
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Lotus Petal

Digging - 8
4 Faithless Looting
4 Tormenting Voice

Cheating - 8
4 Sneak Attack
4 Through the Breach

Primary Damage Sources - 12
4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Inferno Titan
4 Worldspine Wurm

SB
2 Pyromancy (leyline of sanctity, pithing needle)
3 Blood Moon (general nonbasic hate)
3 Faerie Macabre (grave hate)
2 Sudden Shock (spot removal that sticks)
2 Sulfur Elemental (dnt, or mentor - 8 miracles in top16 at gp columbus)
3 Trinisphere (slow down combo or countermagic)

[potatodavid]

time for yet another stupid question.

Is it possible to cut chalices and try faithless looting in the main deck?

never cut the chalice

[ZEROorDIE]

No main deck protection of any kind? No thanks.

If your forgoing Chalice you better main deck 4 Pyro blasts to fight through counter magic, but even then it isn't something I would consider

[Ziveeman]

Time for yet another stupid question.

Is it possible to cut Chalices and try Faithless Looting in the main deck? Or possibly cut chalices and blood moons, and add faithless looting + tormenting voice? Digging is nice, and makes the deck a little more consistent, but unlike the blue version, it still has no countermagic. Maybe something like this:

Land - 20
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
10 Mountain

Non-land Accel - 12
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Lotus Petal

Digging - 8
4 Faithless Looting
4 Tormenting Voice

Cheating - 8
4 Sneak Attack
4 Through the Breach

Primary Damage Sources - 12
4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Inferno Titan
4 Worldspine Wurm

SB
2 Pyromancy (leyline of sanctity, pithing needle)
3 Blood Moon (general nonbasic hate)
3 Faerie Macabre (grave hate)
2 Sudden Shock (spot removal that sticks)
2 Sulfur Elemental (dnt, or mentor - 8 miracles in top16 at gp columbus)
3 Trinisphere (slow down combo or countermagic)

Awhile ago I ran a version that played Sensei's Divining Top (with some fetchlands instead of Mountains), but the Chalice versions are just way better

[AceOfJacks]

Ok. Thanks for the fast replies.

[James718]

Basic mountains over sandstone needle? Thoughts?

[hdeck12]

Awhile ago I ran a version that played Sensei's Divining Top (with some fetchlands instead of Mountains), but the Chalice versions are just way better

My first version of the deck did this. It was good, chalice is better.

If you're not playing chalice you really have to be playing brainstorm.

[hdeck12]

Basic mountains over sandstone needle? Thoughts?

(Sandstone still comes in tapped under a moon, UGH) The deck has to lower the curve if you cut needle. I'd also maindeck a koth or two. He's really good, but, needle->sol land->koth, is so bad. I don't think you want titans without needles. Probably a heavier presence of pyromancy in the main too.

From the last list you posted I'd probably:
-3 titan +3 pyromancy
-3 flex +2 koth +1 trinishpere

(If you can hit the 6 drop, a Godo and a Batterskull could replace 1 koth 1 pyromany/trinishphere (I like one 3ball in the main, it slows every non ancient tomb deck down and we're the fastest one of those, and it randomly gives you uncounterable turns)

[James718]

(Sandstone still comes in tapped under a moon, UGH) The deck has to lower the curve if you cut needle. I'd also maindeck a koth or two. He's really good, but, needle->sol land->koth, is so bad. I don't think you want titans without needles. Probably a heavier presence of pyromancy in the main too.

From the last list you posted I'd probably:
-3 titan +3 pyromancy
-3 flex +2 koth +1 trinishpere

(If you can hit the 6 drop, a Godo and a Batterskull could replace 1 koth 1 pyromany/trinishphere (I like one 3ball in the main, it slows every non ancient tomb deck down and we're the fastest one of those, and it randomly gives you uncounterable turns)

Maybe Ill try cutting 1-2 needles and adding the appropriate mountains.

After being knocked out of top 64 last week from drawing the needle I absolutely hate it.

I may go back to trying Riddle of Lightning, I like the random trinisphere. It giving you uncounterability is amazing

[hdeck12]

After being knocked out of top 64 last week from drawing the needle I absolutely hate it.

I don't blame you.

I may go back to trying Riddle of Lightning

I've played them before, they're fun. Often think about throwing one in for spice.

[James718]

In what matchups do you side in 4 trinispheres?

I find myself going up to 3 at most because these are the absolute worst in multiples

[hdeck12]

In what matchups do you side in 4 trinispheres?

I find myself going up to 3 at most because these are the absolute worst in multiples

4 is a lot for cards that do nothing in multiples. They're awesome against Poison, Storm, Reanimator, Elves, Omnishow, RUg, UR.

[James718]

Played in the legacy IQ today in Orlando. I say "played" loosely because no magic was played.

Match 1
Game one on the draw, I mulligan to 5. Keep a potential turn 3 sneak. Opponent is on DnT. all i played was a sandstone needle that got wastelanded, a mountain and a petal.
SB out blood moons add in 2 Pyroclasms 2 sudden shocks 2 shattering sprees
Game 2 mulligan to 5. play a turn 2 sneak attack and draw lands for the next 6 turns.

Match 2
Game 1 on the draw mulligan to 6 cards. Opponent mulligans to 5. He opens up with plains and Vial. I hardcast a turn 1 titan. He plows it. Turn 2 I sneak in a Worldspine wurm that gets plowed. What are the odds.
Game 2 Mulligan to 5 cards. my only mana sources were 2 sandstones needles and yup.. wastelanded.

horrible morning

whats the gameplan for DnT?

[Hyze]

Played in the legacy IQ today in Orlando. I say "played" loosely because no magic was played.

Match 1
Game one on the draw, I mulligan to 5. Keep a potential turn 3 sneak. Opponent is on DnT. all i played was a sandstone needle that got wastelanded, a mountain and a petal.
SB out blood moons add in 2 Pyroclasms 2 sudden shocks 2 shattering sprees
Game 2 mulligan to 5. play a turn 2 sneak attack and draw lands for the next 6 turns.

Match 2
Game 1 on the draw mulligan to 6 cards. Opponent mulligans to 5. He opens up with plains and Vial. I hardcast a turn 1 titan. He plows it. Turn 2 I sneak in a Worldspine wurm that gets plowed. What are the odds.
Game 2 Mulligan to 5 cards. my only mana sources were 2 sandstones needles and yup.. wastelanded.

horrible morning

whats the gameplan for DnT?

I've been running Sulfur Elementals in the SB lately for DnT.
Otherwise I'm guessing you just had bad luck. :(

[hdeck12]

Had an abysmal showing at EE4 this weekend. Must just not have been in the stars this weekend. Losses started with mulliganing to oblivion round 1, missing a batterskull trigger and losing the match round 2.

D&T....Be fast, play blood moon. The longer the game goes, the harder it gets for you.

[whiteborder]

Hey, finally made it over here and since you gave me an appropriate nickname I joined!

Quick shout out to my new friend who will now be referred to as "white-border". It's always fun to sit down and see the guy next to you drop a sandstone needle.

[hdeck12]

Hey, finally made it over here and since you gave me an appropriate nickname I joined!

Welcome to the party!

[James718]

With the increase of show and tell I'm adding one more emrakul in the main cutting an inferno Titan