[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[Chatto]

That's hyperbole. I agree that the Reserve List is a red herring, but Wizards is actively printing new cards to fix the problem. Stony Silence (Null Rod?) Spirit of the Labyrinth (Chains of Meph)? The list goes on and on. They are even releasing multiple sets a year designed to plug cards directly into legacy - Commander and Conspiracy.

They're not fixing the problem swiftly: could you imagine the MSRP of a set where they printed situationally better/worse duals AND power nine in a single expansion?! But they ARE fixing the problem!

If they don't fix it swiftly, there will be nothing to fix.

[ahg113]

New World Order hit more than just the complexity of the game mechanics. It dumbed down the stories, as well. The Planeswalker cards were the beginning of the end of decent storytelling. They decided to take these mortal, flawed, often desperate characters that made for interesting stories and replace them with Power Rangers. Now the Jacetice League never loses, never has to make that big sacrifice, and rarely deal with consequences. It's just off to the next plane.

Urza and Mishra were very interesting characters. They were powerful, but not strong enough to defeat Yawgmoth. Mishra fell, and even Urza couldn't save Serra's artificial plane, instead compressing it into a power stone. The Weatherlight crew were great, too. Mirri's story was heartbreaking. Starke was a sympathetic bastard. Karn was easy to love. Even Squee had appeal. Squee!

People don't feel the same way about the Planeswalkers. Jace is just a prick. Liliana tries to be sassy and tough, but can't come close to Jaya Ballard. It's just like bad fan fiction. Mary Sues everywhere.

I think I love you cartoonist. You are my new favorite random internet handle.

[Lord Seth]

I always wondered if I was looking back at the old sets with nostalgia clouding my vision, but I recently cracked a booster box of Homelands (don't ask), and just looking at the art and the flavor text on the cards made me feel so much more invested in the story that the cards were telling than anything I've read on the new cards.

I mean, sure, Homelands was a disaster zone mechanically, from a development standpoint, but the design, the art, the flavor was extraordinary. Nothing from the new sets can even match the beauty of that set's atmosphere. In fact, every set from that era has hand-painted art, actual meaningful flavor text, non-trivial storylines... It's not just nostalgia if you grew up with those cards. They were simply designed with more meaningful purpose back then.

I don't know, I thought Innistrad (the first one) did a great job in this department. Though to be fair, that was also 5 years ago and the whole thing got kind of screwed over by Avacyn Restored, but looking at just the set by itself, I thought it matched or possibly surpassed Homelands in the department of design/flavor.

I mean, I really saw Innistrad as "Homelands done right."

[Megadeus]

Except for the part where the whole block was pretty format warping

[Barook]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Co...s+Bauble#paper

Mishra's Bauble is now 40+$.

[Dice_Box]

Modern Suicide Zoo is a T1 deck. This card is a big part of it. It is also showing up in a new Jund Delirium deck. Honestly, this card is going to rise and rise until it's reprinted.

[square_two]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Co...s+Bauble#paper

Mishra's Bauble is now 40+$.

I can't for the life of me imagine who would be willing to buy a playset of these for $160.

Edit: Didn't realize it was used so heavily in suicide zoo. Thought it was only a janky 44-card Foom sort of thing.

[Dice_Box]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper

Its the card image used for the deck. Says it all really.

[Begle1]

I'm used to Legacy prices on things, and I look at Modern prices with awe. I had no idea Bauble and Death's Shadow were doing things. Insanity.

I just looked, I bought 4x Death's Shadow from Troll and Toad on 9/1/12 for $.49 a piece. Same order included 3x Tidehollow Sculler for $.99 a piece and 4x Rest for the Weary at $.79 a piece.

I remember being upset with the price of Mishra's Bauble when I bought 4x for $1.50 a piece on 5/1/14. I was planning on using them in a Dredge build.


I've spent hours before going through old MtG receipts. Recently I've been shocked in good ways more than negative ways. Those cards make up for the 4x Mana Confluences I bought for $16.99 on 4/29/14, the 1x $7.79 Pearl Medallion on 4/8/14 and the 1x $24.99 Sinkhole on 1/30/14.

[Dice_Box]

I do not look at past prices for things anymore. I find it depressing.

[H]

I do not look at past prices for things anymore. I find it depressing.

I sold a foil Bauble a year or so ago for $10. Thought I was making out like a bandit...

[kirkusjones]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Co...s+Bauble#paper

Mishra's Bauble is now 40+$.

Fuck me, I just sold mine recently at $20. Oh well.

[apple713]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Co...s+Bauble#paper

Mishra's Bauble is now 40+$.

why? thats more than SDT and that makes it complete bullshit. No ones gonna pay 40 for a bauble...

[Sidneyious]

why? thats more than SDT and that makes it complete bullshit. No ones gonna pay 40 for a bauble...

They will if they want the best new deck.

I want blue duals for my own ideas and I can't because popularity.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

why? thats more than SDT and that makes it complete bullshit. No ones gonna pay 40 for a bauble...

Why does being more than top make it bullshit?

Top was just reprinted, isn't modern-legal, and is floating around in trade binders all over the place due to EMA.

Bauble is from cold snap and is a 4-of in a modern deck that is blowing up in popularity. That means people can't easily trade into them and need to go buy them off the internet which leads to a group buy-out and price spike which is exactly what happened. It's also modern PPTQ season from July 23rd to October 9th which means plenty of spikes are trying to buy into the deck right now.

Top being a much more powerful and iconic card doesn't actually have much to do with this.

[Fox]

Urza's Bauble ~25 cents.
Mishra's Bauble ~40 dollars.
Modern is cancer for prices.

[Scott]

Urza's Bauble, Mishra's Bauble, whatever, Bauble Bauble, bau ble bau ble, bah blah bah blah.

[Begle1]

Urza's Bauble ~25 cents.
Mishra's Bauble ~40 dollars.
Modern is cancer for prices.

I'm waiting for my stack of Lodestone Baubles to spike up.

It's on the reserved list and can shut off somebody's draws! Come on, go to $10 for me!

[phonics]

Modern Suicide Zoo is a T1 deck. This card is a big part of it. It is also showing up in a new Jund Delirium deck. Honestly, this card is going to rise and rise until it's reprinted.

So MM5, or never.

[H]

Bauble is from cold snap and is a 4-of in a modern deck that is blowing up in popularity. That means people can't easily trade into them and need to go buy them off the internet which leads to a group buy-out and price spike which is exactly what happened.

The fact that Coldsnap was very under opened by even the standards of the time, let alone today's open rate, makes it easy to buy out.