no the main reason is because it has been discussed and tested earlier in this topic. i love all is dust dont get me wrong. But i think it belongs in the sideboard, not in the main. there is just no room for itOriginally Posted by jimmythegreek
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
That, by definition, depends on the meta game. As for the Dutch metagame (since that is where you are from), I've been successful main decking All is Dust.
i dont want to have blanks in my main deck vs some matches. thats why i no longer run dismembers and wails. All is dust has a huge chance of being a blank. so whatever the meta is, i wont run all is dust in the main
@barook:
what is your opinion about the SCG in my list? do you think it need to be petals? i can make an argument for both cases. Paying dazes, casting a ape with a blood moon in play and flipping it with reshaper are big pro's in my opinion. The nonbo with challice/thorn, non instantspeed, growing goyf argument is a big con of petal in my opinion
Last edited by Noloam_; 08-21-2016 at 03:48 PM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
What do people think to the new Monarch land, assuming it is legal in legacy?
For those who don't know, it is a colourless land, where you can pay 4, tap and sacrifice it to become the Monarch. As the monarch, you draw a card during your end step and another player can become the monarch by dealing combat damage to you.
In an ideal work, it is the eldrazi horizon canopy, as it replaces itself and keeps drawing value after that, and in a none-ideal world it is a howling mine or just a colourless land.
I can't think of any land I would replace for it
@Noloam: Why not try it out? 4 Displacer with only 8 white sources seems like insanity to me. SSG does have advantages over Lotus Petal, no doubt, but it will cost you mana consistency.
That said, if you keep the SSGs, I would run Battlefield Forge over Caves of Koilos. Just a minor thing, but casting it might come up sometimes.
Looking at your latest list, how does it feel to not run any spot removal in the 75?
It was a very Eldrazi-y SCG Classic today in Somerset, with three in the top 8 and another in the top 16.
hmmmm thats also an issue i guess. i do like hardcasting the leylines tough. i dont know what is more realistic, hardcasting a leyline or a spirit guide (is somebody good at math here? :P) ? thanks for that.
yes that is a keeper for me. the hands with dismember + wail + spirit guides were snap mulls. i love having no blanks. endbringer, jitte and displacer can deal with creatures themselves. Having more triggers for reshaper increases your consitancy. i feel like my previous colorless list was just too focussed on crushing miracles (with factories etc). im not that impressed with dismember (only in the mirror and the bug matches). It costs you too much life vs delver decks and it is a blank vs a lot of decks
Last edited by Noloam_; 08-22-2016 at 04:26 AM.
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sideboard guide can be found on page 84
Hi all!
New user on the source and glad to join this thread! I like brewing with new cards, sometimes successfully and sometimes not. I play a paper magic tournament once a week, so I don't have the chance for a lot of real word testing.
So I've tried Eternal Scourge for a little bit as I liked being able to get more creatures out quicker and I like its ability. I couldn't find the correct number initially, but having 4 gave me 12 3-drops and 6 power on turn two and other nice combinations on turn 3. I tried abuse it further, by running Serum Powder. I remember one deck running it before and I also seem to mulligan a lot with eldrazi so the combo was fun to try, I got some more colorless sources, but as you can guess it wasn't really that great for me.
I tried running a few City of traitors, as the lower curve without Endbringer would play nicely with Eternal Scourge, but ultimately I don't like city so I moved away from it and haven't tested it enough. I should really test it with noloams land list.
So here comes the part that is not as well tested.
Having problems vs death and taxes landed me on running 4 caverns + 4 caves of koilos for Bearer of silence. But it did nothing against the match up. But it seems ok versus other decks so I kept them. I removed the caverns for llanowar wastes, so I could run more black sources for better side board cards, such as dread of night. Then I realized murderous cut would combo nicely with dead Eternal Scourges (it is a very low value to recurr them vs some decks, mind you).
Other things I've tested: Seagate Wreckage + Geier Reach Sanctum. Nice combo for long running games, but it is hard to fit the land at the moment.
What did I remove? Different cards, but I am testing without Mimics because I feel they are quite bad as late drops and never do well when there is no creature around to buff them.
So the current list:
24 creatures
4 Endless One
4 Bearer of silence
4 Eternal Scourge
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Eldrazi Smasher
10 Other spells
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Dismember
2 Murderous Cut
2 Umezawa's Jitte
25 Lands
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Koilos
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Llanowar Wastes
4 Eye of Ugin
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Wastes
1 undecided
15 Sideboard
2 Dread of night
4 surgical extraction
2 thorn of amethyst
2 warping wail
1 all is dust
2 ratchet bomb
2 pilgrim's eye
So I figured I would share and maybe someone could take away something from my testing especially since Eternal Scourge seemed to have not been tested a lot from what I read here. Pilgrim's eye is an ok sideboard card in my meta with lots of Blood Moon, Back to Basics and such. I am considering going down to 2 wastes after adding these.
my goodness.....
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
Ratninja, I like the brew! I've been messing around with a lot of versions as well, as I find it fun and more interesting then just running the colorless version. Certainly haven't done quite as well with the versions, but it's fun to experiment. Have you thought about adding a 1-of Gemstone Caverns? Works well with scourge and can help accelerate. Happy brewing!
Not that I disagree that brews are fun and I encourage you to post, but not here. This is the DTB section... decks to beat! If you read what DTB is about, you will find that it says: "Decks which are optimized, thoroughly tested, played in a variety of metagames, and have proven themselves in a competitive tournament environment." So brews really don't belong here (belongs to the New and Developmental Section.) This forum is for optimized, tried and true Eldrazi Aggro lists.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
@noloam - do you have a sideboard guide for your colorless or white splash eldrazi lists? I have been running both in a handful of Legacy Leagues to mediocre finishes.
Decks I've been wrecked by are mostly Marit Lage producting (Lands/Hex Depths)
Death and Taxes was also a bit rough versus new Thalia
I've been following your lists for a while now, and appreciate the work you've done. Thanks
hi. thanks for the support. that is appreciated! my sideboard list is available on page 36 of this topic. im now also playing 1 waste sideboard. I always wanted to test it. i somehow run into a lot of bloodmoon decks laterly. I feel i no longer need the 2 needles side, because all the bad fatty matches are now more easy. so i run 1 needle instead
death and taxes can indeed be rough. Im not still sure about my sideboard strategy for my white eldrazi build. perhaps you can ask that to barook. But i think i am sticking with the displacer build
Last edited by Noloam_; 08-23-2016 at 02:03 PM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
I like Displacer as it hedges our matchup vs Sneak and Show and Lands/Depths decks
The white splash has lead to the deck being less explosive, but I only have a handful of games with it. I'll check out your SB tech. Thanks again!
yes displacer is just the card you need vs bad matches. But thats not the main reason im playing displacer. Im playing it, because it is better than your removal package.
i dont see how it is less explosive? casting a displacer with 1 mana (when you have an eye), is very explosive in my opinion. no problem dude, have fun :)
Last edited by Noloam_; 08-23-2016 at 03:49 PM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
Displacer is just awesome all around but I can't seem to get my land count right. What's your mana base looking like these days? Are you playing any Lotus petals?
well i only had to cut the factorys. which is a loss vs miracles for sure. but i think it is worth it, because the karakases do their own job
4 Cavern of Souls
2 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
2 Battlefield forge
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Wasteland
2 Karakas
im also playing one waste in the sideboard, for testing purposes. I like it so far. i dont need the 2 needles anymore, because my sneak attack and landsmatch is now better, with the displacers. so i trimmed that down to 1
i still dont feel petal is my card (but testing it is still possible). I play a similar list like anton's. he was playing no SCG/petals etc. But i love paying dazes all day and surviving wastelands
i had a lot of 4-1 runs so far.
Last edited by Noloam_; 08-24-2016 at 06:59 AM.
Eldrazi stompy list: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/noloam
sideboard guide can be found on page 84
What did you cut from your SB for the 1 waste?
The last list I saw was
2 basilisk collar
1 pithing needle
2 ratchet bomb
4 leyline of the void
2 all is dust
4 thorn of amethyst
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