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Thread: [Primer/Deck] Pox

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox



    Does Kaya fit into a Vaka Pox build? She has a nice card advantage minus ability and it looks like she'll play nice with Liliana too. Plus she could be a pseudo win condition that dodges Abrupt Decay.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore View Post
    Theoretically CB should be better than SD.
    Will be interesting to follow developments.
    What's SD?

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiptoon View Post


    Does Kaya fit into a Vaka Pox build? She has a nice card advantage minus ability and it looks like she'll play nice with Liliana too. Plus she could be a pseudo win condition that dodges Abrupt Decay.
    If I'm not oblivious to any Combo that this new PW enables, then I can assure that it won't have any use in here because pretty much every comparable Card would be just better. Quite frankly I think this is the worst Planeswalker ever aside from Gideon 2 and Tibalt.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Fjaulnir View Post
    What's SD?
    spinning darkness..

    now i wouldn't be that too quick to judge that collective brutality is better than spinning darkness..the fact that spinning darkness is a "free spell", plus its an instant is what makes it really good..for what its worth, i would say that against grixis, i would choose spinning darkness over collective brutality..

    now i'm not saying that collective brutality is bad, i just need to find a situation where i would want it in my 75..

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiptoon View Post


    Does Kaya fit into a Vaka Pox build? She has a nice card advantage minus ability and it looks like she'll play nice with Liliana too. Plus she could be a pseudo win condition that dodges Abrupt Decay.
    I thought about her in my bw pox build. I think I would just rather a sorin, solemn visitor if I'm going to be running a 4 mana bw walker. Him alongside bitterblossom or lingering souls or both is a nice way to recoup some life and speed up the clock.

    She isn't a terrible oprion, but likely not the most ideal. The discard and draw is nice.though.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    So I decided to go to the SCG Legacy Classic in NJ today. I played a version of mono-b Pox. Did TERRIBLE! But it was fun, drawing with ANOTHER Pox player rd 2, and sitting (literally) next to him for the next 5 rounds. We were like the Hammer Bros, except it was Pox instead of Hammers.

    This is what I played:
    4 Mishra's Factory
    12 Swamp
    4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Wasteland

    1 Chains of Mephistopheles
    2 Crucible of Worlds
    2 Cursed Scroll
    4 Hymn to Tourach
    2 Infernal Tutor
    3 Innocent Blood
    4 Liliana of the Veil
    1 Murderous Cut
    1 Nether Spirit
    1 Nether Void
    1 Pox
    4 Sinkhole
    4 Smallpox
    3 Thoughtseize
    1 Toxic Deluge
    2 Trinisphere

    Sideboard:
    1 Chains of Mephistopheles
    2 Ensnaring Bridge
    4 Leyline of Sanctity
    4 Leyline of the Void
    1 Night of Souls' Betrayal
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Ratchet Bomb
    1 The Abyss

    Round 1 LOSS 0 - 2 - 0 VS Ian Andrew
    Round 2 DRAW 1 - 1 - 1 VS Michael Spivack
    Round 3 LOSS 0 - 2 - 0 VS Keith Blackwell
    Round 4 WIN 2 - 0 - 0 VS Chris Strachan
    Round 5 WIN 2 - 0 - 0 VS Brad Gutkin
    Round 6 LOSS 1 - 2 - 0 VS Nathan Golia
    Round 7 LOSS 0 - 2 - 0 VS Collins Mullen
    Round 8 WIN 2 - 0 - 0 VS Ryan McCarthy
    Round 9 LOSS 0 - 2 - 0 VS Xander Niazi
    3 - 5 - 1 Final Record.

    I assume I am just bad at playing this deck, or maybe I made poor card choices. Either way, I did horribly, but had some fun.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    It would be nice to update with records on what decks your opponents played.
    Quote Originally Posted by aslidsiksoraksi View Post
    hardcore is our resident aggro pox master, hopefully he can help you

    "Pox early, Pox often, and Pox hard!" - Le_Lepreux

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    hello guys, just started to play a bit of small pox and did something thatīs a ton of fun for me, but still want it to improve. main plan is mana denial and i think its pretty solid right now, any sugestions for win conditions or other value spells that iīm missing? this is the first scratch of the deck, played a few games with it :

    3 Swamp
    4 Wasteland
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    1 Maze of Ith
    2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Rishadan Port
    3 Mishra's Factory
    4 Scrubland
    4 Marsh Flats

    4 Smallpox
    4 Thoughtseize
    3 Hymn to Tourach
    4 Dark Ritual
    3 Liliana of the Veil
    4 Sinkhole
    3 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Vindicate

    1 Nether Spirit

    1 Crucible of Worlds
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    2 Cursed Scroll


    SB: 1 The Abyss
    SB: 1 Nether Void
    SB: 1 Chains of Mephistopheles
    SB: 1 Disfigure
    SB: 3 Ethersworn Canonist
    SB: 3 Extirpate
    SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
    SB: 2 Disenchant
    SB: 1 Swords to Plowshares

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Three SDT is a bit much. Cutting one does not hurt.
    I note you have no plains. Some decks may try wreck you with bloodmoon and you will be defenseless to that without plains to fetch.
    Quote Originally Posted by aslidsiksoraksi View Post
    hardcore is our resident aggro pox master, hopefully he can help you

    "Pox early, Pox often, and Pox hard!" - Le_Lepreux

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by mykatdied View Post
    I thought about her in my bw pox build. I think I would just rather a sorin, solemn visitor if I'm going to be running a 4 mana bw walker. Him alongside bitterblossom or lingering souls or both is a nice way to recoup some life and speed up the clock.

    She isn't a terrible oprion, but likely not the most ideal. The discard and draw is nice.though.
    also, her first ability becomes more powerful with a containment priest in play..
    and you can blink your recruiter of the guard over and over to abuse its tutoring effect..

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by zenitramleirdag View Post
    also, her first ability becomes more powerful with a containment priest in play..
    and you can blink your recruiter of the guard over and over to abuse its tutoring effect..
    That's cute and all with containment priest but are you referring to Containment priest and Kaya in a pox deck? That seems a bit sketchy.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by mykatdied View Post
    That's cute and all with containment priest but are you referring to Containment priest and Kaya in a pox deck? That seems a bit sketchy.
    you're right, it might be "trying to do too much" in pox..he he he..maybe in a deadman's ale kinda build..

  13. #2833

    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by zenitramleirdag View Post
    you're right, it might be "trying to do too much" in pox..he he he..maybe in a deadman's ale kinda build..
    I think that makes more sense. Especially since in deadguy even if you don't have priest you can at least reuse stoneforge, tidehollow, maybe a blade splicer or something.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Ancestral View Post
    hello guys, just started to play a bit of small pox and did something thatīs a ton of fun for me, but still want it to improve. main plan is mana denial and i think its pretty solid right now, any sugestions for win conditions or other value spells that iīm missing? this is the first scratch of the deck, played a few games with it :

    3 Swamp
    4 Wasteland
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    1 Maze of Ith
    2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Rishadan Port
    3 Mishra's Factory
    4 Scrubland
    4 Marsh Flats

    4 Smallpox
    4 Thoughtseize
    3 Hymn to Tourach
    4 Dark Ritual
    3 Liliana of the Veil
    4 Sinkhole
    3 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Vindicate

    1 Nether Spirit

    1 Crucible of Worlds
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    2 Cursed Scroll


    SB: 1 The Abyss
    SB: 1 Nether Void
    SB: 1 Chains of Mephistopheles
    SB: 1 Disfigure
    SB: 3 Ethersworn Canonist
    SB: 3 Extirpate
    SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
    SB: 2 Disenchant
    SB: 1 Swords to Plowshares
    Dark Confidant maybe?

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    This is my current list. I cannot figure out how to put the card links in this forum.
    I have tried a few versions of the deck so far. Currently content with this list outside of the sideboard, which needs work. I am trying to expand to other forums to get more opinions and advice. I do not want to play the black/white version or black/green version.

    1 Nether Spirit
    2 Cursed Scroll

    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Hymn to Tourach
    4 Innocent Blood
    4 Sinkhole
    4 Smallpox
    4 Inquisition of Kozilek

    1 Nether Void
    1 The Abyss
    1 Chains of Mephistopheles

    4 Liliana of the Veil

    1 Cabal Pit
    1 Maze of Ith
    4 Mishra's Factory
    11 Swamp
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Wasteland

    Sideboard
    1 Bitterblossom
    1 Cranial Extraction
    1 Crucible of Worlds
    1 Duress
    1 Engineered Plague
    1 Ensnaring Bridge
    1 Grim Tutor
    1 Memoricide
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Ratchet Bomb
    1 Surgical Extraction
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Toxic Deluge
    1 Underworld Dreams
    1 Word of Command
    Last edited by Epeirogeny; 08-29-2016 at 08:58 PM.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Epeirogeny View Post
    I cannot figure out how to put the card links in this forum.
    http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...rd-tags-(2-0!)

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Epeirogeny View Post
    1 Nether Spirit
    2 Cursed Scroll

    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Hymn to Tourach
    4 Innocent Blood
    4 Sinkhole
    4 Smallpox
    4 Inquisition of Kozilek

    1 Nether Void
    1 The Abyss
    1 Chains of Mephistopheles

    4 Liliana of the Veil

    1 Cabal Pit
    1 Maze of Ith
    4 Mishra's Factory
    11 Swamp
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Wasteland

    Sideboard
    1 Bitterblossom
    1 Cranial Extraction
    1 Crucible of Worlds
    1 Duress
    1 Engineered Plague
    1 Ensnaring Bridge
    1 Grim Tutor
    1 Memoricide
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Ratchet Bomb
    1 Surgical Extraction
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Toxic Deluge
    1 Underworld Dreams
    1 Word of Command
    I know you already said your sideboard isn't where you want it to be, but what is the rationale for playing singletons? There isn't any library manipulation, card draw, or deck thinning in it so where do you find consistency? I feel like redundancy is where you want to be without a better way to find your hate cards.

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Thanks Fixed

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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiptoon View Post
    I know you already said your sideboard isn't where you want it to be, but what is the rationale for playing singletons? There isn't any library manipulation, card draw, or deck thinning in it so where do you find consistency? I feel like redundancy is where you want to be without a better way to find your hate cards.
    The singleton is because i am not sure whats best. And some things are redundant for similar effects like Tormods Crypt and Surgical Extraction. Or Memoricide and Cranial Extraction

    Definitely not set of what cards I want to settle on the sideboard (assuming the meta would line up with the "decks to beat" )

  20. #2840

    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    Don't you guys think Liliana the Last Hope has a place in Smallpox? She presents a clock that smallpox has always been defective with. Is the Veil always better? I think not


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