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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknight View Post
    That Swamp though. Savage.

    I'm really interested with why no Abrupt Decays MB, maybe it was a meta call.
    The marsh flats and the swamp are not worth it in my opinion even if you maindeck decay. I'd just run a second bayou.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post
    The marsh flats and the swamp are not worth it in my opinion even if you maindeck decay. I'd just run a second bayou.
    Agreed, all fetch should be able to get basic Forest.
    The basic Swamp is a good idea, if you run maindeck Decay. And not have DD/Stage and/or Maze aswell.
    Nonetheless, 1st place proves that those things are all minor details.
    Maverick is getting more top8 positions, is the deck popular? Or are the pilots just that dedicated?
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    How about: ramp into Deed, clear the board, and bash your opponent's head in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmans View Post
    Agreed, all fetch should be able to get basic Forest.
    The basic Swamp is a good idea, if you run maindeck Decay. And not have DD/Stage and/or Maze aswell.
    Nonetheless, 1st place proves that those things are all minor details.
    Maverick is getting more top8 positions, is the deck popular? Or are the pilots just that dedicated?
    Maverick isn't a bad deck. If you dodge elves you're in a good spot. Miracles is the best deck in legacy but if you go to a SCG Classic in my own experience, I rarely play against it and if I do it's 1 time per tournament. The decks consistency will win you games. Keep the deck as consistent as possible and don't dilute it with the dd combo. I know the consistency will win you more games than the combo will. I think the pilots know how to operate the deck and green sun zeniths gives you a lot of game to solve a lot of board states. I definitely know Maverick isn't popular and if people played it as much as say Miracles, we would see more results. I'm guilty of not playing Maverick in paper tournament because I have been doing great with aggro loam, but the last tournament I used Maverick, I got 9th and missed the top 8 on breakers at SCG Indy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post
    Maverick isn't a bad deck. If you dodge elves you're in a good spot.
    Tides have changed: With 3 new Thalia's, Elves is a favourable matchup for us!

    I hope the pilot of the winning deck at the classic will post a report here.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by sanderanders View Post
    Tides have changed: With 3 new Thalia's, Elves is a favourable matchup for us!

    I hope the pilot of the winning deck at the classic will post a report here.
    care to explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post
    Maverick isn't a bad deck. If you dodge elves you're in a good spot. Miracles is the best deck in legacy but if you go to a SCG Classic in my own experience, I rarely play against it and if I do it's 1 time per tournament. The decks consistency will win you games. Keep the deck as consistent as possible and don't dilute it with the dd combo. I know the consistency will win you more games than the combo will. I think the pilots know how to operate the deck and green sun zeniths gives you a lot of game to solve a lot of board states. I definitely know Maverick isn't popular and if people played it as much as say Miracles, we would see more results. I'm guilty of not playing Maverick in paper tournament because I have been doing great with aggro loam, but the last tournament I used Maverick, I got 9th and missed the top 8 on breakers at SCG Indy.
    I played abysmal this weekend. 0-2 drop and a quick exit.
    Biggest mistake was removing the DD combo. R1 paired against the lone miracles player in the room. I'm convinced we cannot beat that match.

    Got a deck reg error going into R2 (resulting in a game loss). Play a faux game 1 that counts as game 2. TES goes off on turn 1 for 14 goblins. gg.

    Sooooo....that was my weekend. Pretty sure I'm going to venture into Green and Taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderanders View Post
    Tides have changed: With 3 new Thalia's, Elves is a favourable matchup for us!

    I hope the pilot of the winning deck at the classic will post a report here.
    Thalia does not make this a favorable match up. Please explain or show some evidence against good elves players. I didn't say you couldn't beat elves I think it's just the worst match up. Adding a third to 4th sweeper would help out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warden View Post
    I played abysmal this weekend. 0-2 drop and a quick exit.
    Biggest mistake was removing the DD combo. R1 paired against the lone miracles player in the room. I'm convinced we cannot beat that match.

    Got a deck reg error going into R2 (resulting in a game loss). Play a faux game 1 that counts as game 2. TES goes off on turn 1 for 14 goblins. gg.

    Sooooo....that was my weekend. Pretty sure I'm going to venture into Green and Taxes.
    I just beat Losset in the legacy premier. He was streaming that day so you could probably find the match.

  9. #6829

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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeBryan View Post
    care to explain
    Ok, ok, 'favourable' is maybe a bit too much, but all creatures of the elves player come tapped into play! I played only a few matches against elves but it is gg and scoop when Thalia resolves.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by sanderanders View Post
    Ok, ok, 'favourable' is maybe a bit too much, but all creatures of the elves player come tapped into play! I played only a few matches against elves but it is gg and scoop when Thalia resolves.
    Try to play a couple of more games. I play elves myself and have won more often than lose when facing Thalia tHC (admittedly against D&T). It is ok against glimpse, although glimpse can be faster and drawing a few cards out of it is already good value. It prevents one creature from attacking from a NOed hoof. Not that hot. It does nothing against the main WS-EV engine.

    Don't get me wrong, the card is good, particularly in this MU. But not really better than E. cannonist or C. priest in this particular MU.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    I've been playing 2 Engineered Plagues for a while and I like it a lot, I think it's at its best vs Elves.. But I do have a large amount of tribal decks in my local meta. However it's also great vs Mentor, TNN, merfolk, goblins, Death n Taxes, Pyromancer, Dredge etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Don't get me wrong, the card is good, particularly in this MU. But not really better than E. cannonist or C. priest in this particular MU.
    I agree that the card itself is not better than Cannonist or Priest. The big difference though, is that New Thalia is a 3-of in the mainboard, Cannonist and C. Priest are 2-of sideboard cards, so game 1 is a already better now, but game two and three with the 5 hatebears, 3 new Thalia's and 2 Priests/Cannonists are way better.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by pettdan View Post
    I've been playing 2 Engineered Plagues for a while and I like it a lot, I think it's at its best vs Elves.. But I do have a large amount of tribal decks in my local meta. However it's also great vs Mentor, TNN, merfolk, goblins, Death n Taxes, Pyromancer, Dredge etc..
    I may be taking this approach moving forwards.

    @Elves: Thalia HC is very strong, but doesn't break open the match more than Jitte. Elves can play around either. You need sweepers to win the match. I've been on record for saying 5 (yes, really) sweepers/additional removal makes the difference. I pull Thalia 1.0 and another expendable in favor of making 5 spots. I found I have a higher lose % when I'm packing 3 or 4 removal, as I need to overload on a board wipe to x-for-1 them and pull ahead. With a rise in DnT, I think Plague (Elves, Humans) might be better than my tried and true 3 ZP + 2 Toxic D, but we'll see how to make it all come together.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    In my limited testing I won every match I had a turn 2 Thalia against elves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    In my limited testing I won every match I had a turn 2 Thalia against elves.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    In my limited testing I won every match I had a turn 2 Thalia against elves.

    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthepit View Post
    Has anyone tried brewing a Vial Maverick list with Recruiter of the Guard?
    I only really test on mtgo and the cards aren't available yet to my knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post
    I only really test on mtgo and the cards aren't available yet to my knowledge


    Hey Dan, i consider buying into MTGO, but just want to build 1 deck. Maverick isn't the most expensive and my petdeck.

    Do you have any advice, tips, words of wisdom? And in wich way is the metagame different from the paper meta?

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by sanderanders View Post
    Hey Dan, i consider buying into MTGO, but just want to build 1 deck. Maverick isn't the most expensive and my petdeck.

    Do you have any advice, tips, words of wisdom? And in wich way is the metagame different from the paper meta?
    You must be prepared to play miracles A LOT. And, being a fair type of magic player (maverick/nic fit), that's what's sucking the fun out of the game, at least for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderanders View Post
    Hey Dan, i consider buying into MTGO, but just want to build 1 deck. Maverick isn't the most expensive and my petdeck.

    Do you have any advice, tips, words of wisdom? And in wich way is the metagame different from the paper meta?
    Maverick is a great deck. The meta on MTGO is a lot of tier 1 decks. If you look at the decks on mtgtop8.com, most of that percentage is based from the online meta game. Some leagues I play miracles 3 times, some none. There is a lot of grixis delver as well. What I'm trying to say is you play a lot of tier 1 decks and I think the average MTGO player is better than the ones I play against in classics. You don't get too many free wins. Also if you aren't winning much it can be a huge money pit, it cost 12 tix which is $12 to enter the leagues and you have to at least 3-2 to get your money back. I know it sounds easy but you can go on some bad runs. So the big difference in my experience is tier 1 decks seem to come up more on MTGO than paper. I played aggro loam on mtgo a lot as well but gave it up because I kept running into show and tell, but that seems to have decreased. So I think it may be a good option again.

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