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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Noloam_ View Post
    well done. hex depths is just a terrible matchup. i play hexdepths for fun sometimes. displacer can be too late. eot crop or not of this world will catch you off gaurd
    thanks - you're probably right, I'm not a huge fan of the white splash, I think the deck is strongest in colorless form.

    The infect matchup was interesting. I sided in the thorns G2 and out G3, because in retrospect they didn't seem great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caprino View Post
    I have a tournament at the end of the month
    help me in the side and in side out

    I wrote to you in private
    Caprino, responded to your PM. It was a quick overview because I wasn't sure which matchups you want sideboard tips against. Hope it helps.

    Is the below list the build you're planning to play? And the one that you tested with and also gave you favorable results against D&T, Miracles, Grixis, ANT, BUG, Lands etc similar to my testing?


    Good luck with the tourney later this month. I'm sure you'll dominate. What meta are you expecting to face? What matchups did you want sideboard in and outs versus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    Caprino, responded to your PM. It was a quick overview because I wasn't sure which matchups you want sideboard tips against. Hope it helps.

    Is the below list the build you're planning to play? And the one that you tested with and also gave you favorable results against D&T, Miracles, Grixis, ANT, BUG, Lands etc similar to my testing?




    Good luck with the tourney later this month. I'm sure you'll dominate. What meta are you expecting to face? What matchups did you want sideboard in and outs versus?
    My current meta is miracle, death and taxes, ant, bug and grixis..my difficult side in and side out Vs infect, bug and miracle, bug, death and taxes. I not idea side in and side out Vs this matchup

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuglow View Post
    thanks - you're probably right, I'm not a huge fan of the white splash, I think the deck is strongest in colorless form.

    The infect matchup was interesting. I sided in the thorns G2 and out G3, because in retrospect they didn't seem great.
    I play Infect as well, definitely leave thorns in. It's so hard to push through because infect is resource light as a general rule and can't cast all their pump spells in combat with a thorns in play. It's not cotv bad but it's enough to slow the deck down enough until you can stompy over top with your smashers and tear apart their hand with tks.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk View Post
    I play Infect as well, definitely leave thorns in. It's so hard to push through because infect is resource light as a general rule and can't cast all their pump spells in combat with a thorns in play. It's not cotv bad but it's enough to slow the deck down enough until you can stompy over top with your smashers and tear apart their hand with tks.
    Awesome, thanks for the tip!

    I'm curious, what would you consider siding out vs Infect?

    I feel like Needle comes in, Thorns come in, maybe even Ratchet Bomb?

    I'd probably remove the Endbringer and SSG

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuglow View Post
    Awesome, thanks for the tip!

    I'm curious, what would you consider siding out vs Infect?

    I feel like Needle comes in, Thorns come in, maybe even Ratchet Bomb?

    I'd probably remove the Endbringer and SSG
    That's a very good question, Endbringer is amazing if it gets online but I think it's too slow... Jitte will do the same only much faster to get in play.

    Infect also only plays a singleton wasteland and sometimes one more in the side, so keep that in mind as well. You shouldn't need to worry much about your land being pulled out from under you.

    Rarcher bomb feels very so so to me... Likely too slow and good infect players won't over committ. Using it to kill a single creature feels pretty weak.

    I'd bring in at least 2+ thorns and however many needles you run to shut down inkmoth.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    Caprino, responded to your PM. It was a quick overview because I wasn't sure which matchups you want sideboard tips against. Hope it helps.

    Is the below list the build you're planning to play? And the one that you tested with and also gave you favorable results against D&T, Miracles, Grixis, ANT, BUG, Lands etc similar to my testing?




    Good luck with the tourney later this month. I'm sure you'll dominate. What meta are you expecting to face? What matchups did you want sideboard in and outs versus?
    Why no warping wail? Mono revoker main deck is important? Duplicant side in Vs? Thanks. Today 3 1 win Vs rug delver 2/0,dredge 2/0 G2 mull for 2 and leyline is gg, burn 2/1...lose Vs death and taxes splash green 1/2

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk View Post
    That's a very good question, Endbringer is amazing if it gets online but I think it's too slow... Jitte will do the same only much faster to get in play.

    Infect also only plays a singleton wasteland and sometimes one more in the side, so keep that in mind as well. You shouldn't need to worry much about your land being pulled out from under you.

    Rarcher bomb feels very so so to me... Likely too slow and good infect players won't over committ. Using it to kill a single creature feels pretty weak.

    I'd bring in at least 2+ thorns and however many needles you run to shut down inkmoth.
    Yeah, so it looks like:

    - 2 Endbringer
    - 3 Simian Spirit Guide
    + 2 Needle
    + 3 Thorn of Amethyst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    The past two weeks and over 100 matches, I've yet to face an unfavorable matchup for this list!
    I wanted to try something different for a tournament, and the oblivion sower build looked like fun. I ran the phillesh list here: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...gue-2016-10-03

    I played in a 20 man tournament. Won my first 3 matches. Next 2 were IDs. Won the top 8.

    I felt a bit lucky as I won a bunch of matchups I shouldn't win. Burn was a race, didn't feel favorable either way. Elves didn't feel good, but the deck pulled out. UR Delver in the finals was the most difficult. The winning play was casting an oblivion sower after my opponents brainstorm exiling 2 pops.

    For these matchups I sided out grim monolith, ulamog and a few of the other top end guys.

    Everything else I played, UWR Stone blade, DnT and merfolk felt easy.

    Cast ulamog once during the day and barely drew/used eye of Ugin. However I think having 4 would stunt the mana growth.

    This was the most fun eldrazi build I played.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Would anyone be interested in seeing a stream of Legacy Eldrazi going through a league? I'm setting up a stream in the coming weeks and I wouldn't mind doing it, especially if its full of constructive feedback

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by pateuglow View Post
    Would anyone be interested in seeing a stream of Legacy Eldrazi going through a league? I'm setting up a stream in the coming weeks and I wouldn't mind doing it, especially if its full of constructive feedback
    Yes please. Put the link in your flair.

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    Vs death and taxes and bug side in and side out? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by caprino View Post
    Vs death and taxes and bug side in and side out? Thanks
    Vs. Death and Taxes
    +2 Phyrexian Revoker
    +2 Rachet Bomb
    +2 All is Dust
    -4 Oblivion Sower
    -1 Ulamog
    -1 Matter Reshaper

    Vs. BUG
    +2 Rachet Bomb
    +2 All is Dust
    +2 Phyrexian Revoker
    +2 Trinisphere
    -4 Matter Reshaper
    -4 Eldrazi Mimic

    Sorry it took me a while to respond. It's been a very busy weekend.

    Don't feel like you have to play an identical sideboard to mine though. The maindeck IMO is optimal. However, there is no such thing as an optimal sideboard. Sideboards should reflect the meta. If your meta is one where you feel other cards like additional Dismember, Warping Wail or Pithing Needle would be helpful, I would certainly recommend playing them in the board.

    There is also more sideboard information in this primer here... http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...o-Feat-10-Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratninja View Post
    I wanted to try something different for a tournament, and the oblivion sower build looked like fun. I ran the phillesh list here: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...gue-2016-10-03

    I played in a 20 man tournament. Won my first 3 matches. Next 2 were IDs. Won the top 8.

    I felt a bit lucky as I won a bunch of matchups I shouldn't win. Burn was a race, didn't feel favorable either way. Elves didn't feel good, but the deck pulled out. UR Delver in the finals was the most difficult. The winning play was casting an oblivion sower after my opponents brainstorm exiling 2 pops.

    For these matchups I sided out grim monolith, ulamog and a few of the other top end guys.

    Everything else I played, UWR Stone blade, DnT and merfolk felt easy.

    Cast ulamog once during the day and barely drew/used eye of Ugin. However I think having 4 would stunt the mana growth.

    This was the most fun eldrazi build I played.
    Well done and congrats on your undefeated streak.

    Yes, this is easily the most fun I've ever had playing just about any magic deck ever, not just Eldrazi. In addition to being extremely powerful both early and late game, the Tentacle Smash/Oblivion lists tend to be smashingly fun.

    I'm surprised by your decision to cut City of Traitors from the main deck and opt to replace low cc business spells with Grim Monolith. Seems like that would slow the deck down significantly making it harder to race.

    Any reason you opted to cut City and play Monoliths in lieu of business spells?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    Well done and congrats on your undefeated streak.

    Yes, this is easily the most fun I've ever had playing just about any magic deck ever, not just Eldrazi. In addition to being extremely powerful both early and late game, the Tentacle Smash/Oblivion lists tend to be smashingly fun.

    I'm surprised by your decision to cut City of Traitors from the main deck and opt to replace low cc business spells with Grim Monolith. Seems like that would slow the deck down significantly making it harder to race.

    Any reason you opted to cut City and play Monoliths in lieu of business spells?
    Thanks! :)

    I saw that there was a separate thread for that list so I responded there.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Last week i entered into a small legacy tournament with eldrazi stompy, i used Noloam_ decklist (copy/paste):

    Creatures:

    4 Endless One
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    4 Matter Reshaper
    3 Simian Spirit Guide
    4 Thought-Knot Seer
    4 Reality Smasher
    2 Endbringer

    Spells (10)
    4 Chalice of the Void
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Warping Wail
    2 Dismember

    Lands (25)
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Cavern of Souls
    2 City of Traitors
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    4 Eye of Ugin
    3 Mishra's Factory
    1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    3 Wasteland

    Sideboard (15)
    1 Karakas
    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Ratchet Bomb
    4 Thorn of Amethyst
    4 Leyline of the Void
    2 All Is Dust



    The results were very promising for the first time i played this deck: 3-1 which means i arrived 4th


    Round one :Ad nauseam(?)0- Strompy 2

    1) i aggroed him too fast tha he couldn't do nothin
    2) almost the same as game one with a few tweaks, i played a creature before thorn( mistake) but i got a leyline on the play after so much effort he killed himself with ad nauseam



    Round 2: Infect 1 - Eldrazi stompy 2


    1) land denial and aggroed him too fast(with tought-knot seer)

    2) removal + land denial won the game(pithing needle shut down nexus)



    Round 3: Reanimator 2 Eldrazi stompy 0

    1) he played the tyrant early ehich offset the game

    2) he played the you can't attack with creatures Guy




    Round 4: Eldrazi stompy (not me) 1 Eldrazy stompy (me) 2

    I aggroed him faster




    Notes: (i like this deck more than i should) against the decks i encountered it worked flawlessly except in the mirror match where it was weak.

    Any suggestion on how to get an advantage in the mirror while not unbalancing the deck against the others.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorker View Post

    Any suggestion on how to get an advantage in the mirror while not unbalancing the deck against the others.
    You could try taking out a Thorn and putting in something like Endbringer (poss. Ulamog but he's much harder for your list), a third Jitte, Dismember, O. Sower (weird as a singleton but it is awesome in the mirror).

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    So, I haven't tried colorless in a while. I usually stick with the white splash, I day two'd gp Columbus with it, won a local iq with it, and made another top finish. Lately I have been considering going back to colorless. I personally love displacer, he has won me so many games. I also enjoy being able to Worldbreaker people.

    How is the Oblivion Sower version compared to the normal (noloam) version?

    Why do you prefer your variant?

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    Vs. Death and Taxes
    +2 Phyrexian Revoker
    +2 Rachet Bomb
    +2 All is Dust
    -4 Oblivion Sower
    -1 Ulamog
    -1 Matter Reshaper

    Vs. BUG
    +2 Rachet Bomb
    +2 All is Dust
    +2 Phyrexian Revoker
    +2 Trinisphere
    -4 Matter Reshaper
    -4 Eldrazi Mimic

    Sorry it took me a while to respond. It's been a very busy weekend.

    Don't feel like you have to play an identical sideboard to mine though. The maindeck IMO is optimal. However, there is no such thing as an optimal sideboard. Sideboards should reflect the meta. If your meta is one where you feel other cards like additional Dismember, Warping Wail or Pithing Needle would be helpful, I would certainly recommend playing them in the board.

    There is also more sideboard information in this primer here... http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...o-Feat-10-Post
    Main deck list is very strong...today 4 0 win Vs death and taxes 2/0, ant 2/1,ant 2/1, gw pod 2/0

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by caprino View Post
    Main deck list is very strong...today 4 0 win Vs death and taxes 2/0, ant 2/1,ant 2/1, gw pod 2/0
    Congrats again. So that three top 8s with the deck.in 10 days! Well done.

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