Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

[Barook]

How is this a card of interest in legacy? You reveal the top 10 cards and get 1 (one!) card of an opponent's choice, meaning you probably won't get anything you actually need.

Paying 3 mana to get the worst nonland card out of 10? Where would you want that effect? Even Lands has better digging effects.

tl;dr It's shit.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Well it deserves a mention because legacy is the cantrip format. And we can all circlejerk about how awful it is. Lets compare it to ponder?

[Barook]

Well it deserves a mention because legacy is the cantrip format. And we can all circlejerk about how awful it is. Lets compare it to ponder?

Every cantrip beyond 1 mana is unplayable. Even stuff like Impuls has fallen out of favor ages ago.

Same reason why the new Murder spell isn't any good.

[Vicar in a tutu]

So far the only cards I've seen that might possibly have some use in legacy are Selfless Squire (most likely SB only), Vial Smasher the Fierce (if it turns out that either Fireblast, Force of Will and/or Delve-cards can make it work) and Conqueror's Flail (probably not in DnT, but maybe in Bant Stoneforge or another Stoneforge-deck to shut off enemy counterspells so that it's easier to fight combo?). I don't have much hope for Conqueror's Flail. I can definately see Selfless Squire have some SB-applications, as Recruiter tutors for it and it has both "human" and "soldier" creature types. It can be cool use against everything from Marit Lage, Craterhoof Behemoth, possibly Burn (obviously not as good as Warmth, but Squire has broader application?).

[Whitefaces]

Every cantrip beyond 1 mana is unplayable.

So predictable.

[Poron]

I have the Impulse to play Lim-Dul's Vault

[rufus]

Paying 3 mana to get the worst nonland card out of 10? Where would you want that effect? Even Lands has better digging effects.

tl;dr It's shit.

Yeah, I think the lesson from TNN is that cards which get stronger as the number of opponents increases are much safer than ones that get stronger as the number of opponents decrease.

[Whitefaces]

Yeah, I think the lesson from TNN is that cards which get stronger as the number of opponents increases are much safer than ones that get stronger as the number of opponents decrease.

Or we can just read the card and see that it has no place in Legacy.

[Claymore]

Legacy Treasure Hunt.dec

[Cire]

Armory Automaton 3
Artifact Creature - Construct
Whenever Armory Automaton enters the battlefield or attacks, attach to it any number of target equipments. (Control of Equipment doesn't change)
2/2

2 cheaper than Vulshok Battlemaster and colorless? Any use for it?

[Megadeus]

Legacy Treasure Hunt.dec

Oh baby. Zombie Infestation Go

[Barook]

2 cheaper than Vulshok Battlemaster and colorless? Any use for it?

I don't think so, since your opponent still controls the equipment. You can't go into combat with it, as your opponent would all the benefits from it like lifelink (Batterskull), Jitte counters and Sword of X & Y triggers. And since they control it, they can just switch to another of their creatures. Armory Automaton is terribly designed.


does it right by actually giving you the equipment.

[HSCK]

I know it probably won't see Legacy play, but it'd be super sweet if it did.

[rufus]

I don't think so, since your opponent still controls the equipment. You can't go into combat with it, as your opponent would all the benefits from it like lifelink (Batterskull), Jitte counters and Sword of X & Y triggers. And since they control it, they can just switch to another of their creatures. Armory Automaton is terribly designed.
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Well, you can still use it to cheat equip costs (something which you might want to do with Sunforger), and retaining control makes Cranial Plating a lot nastier to steal.

Also, batterskull gives lifelink and vigilance to the creature, so stealing it would be a good move.

[Zombie]

I don't think so, since your opponent still controls the equipment. You can't go into combat with it, as your opponent would all the benefits from it like lifelink (Batterskull), Jitte counters and Sword of X & Y triggers. And since they control it, they can just switch to another of their creatures. Armory Automaton is terribly designed.


does it right by actually giving you the equipment.

You do get life from Batterskull: The vigilance and lifelink are properties of the equipped creature, not Batterskull itself. Stealing Jitte or a Mirrodin Sword won't get you much, though. One exception: Stealing the opponent's Sword of Feast and Famine and whacking them with it makes them discard a card, not you (wording is if combat damage to a player, that player discards a card). They still get the untap though.

[MaximumC]

I know it probably won't see Legacy play, but it'd be super sweet if it did.

Dude. That's a CARD.

One mana cheaper than Maelstrom Nexus and it works on all spells, not just the first?

Green, so it can be fetched out with Natural Order or Green Sun's Zenith?

Has evasion (Trample) so that you can swing him into an enemy team and still usually get the effect?

I think this is absolutely playable as a value card if you've got the Green Toolbox going on. However, it can't see serious play unless there's some way to spin it into an instant win. Is there? I mean, once you resolve him, each Brainstorm / Ponder / Bolt / Elf casts Hypergenesis / Ancestral Vision.

[BenBleiweiss]

Now we're talking!

[CptHaddock]

I know it probably won't see Legacy play, but it'd be super sweet if it did.

So how does this guy work for multiple instances of combat damage? Do cards get cacade * number of times he's done combat damage?

[Barook]

MagWin?

The effect is clearly powerful, but I'm not sure how the extra mana cost and the delay affect it.

I wonder if they're doing more restricted/banned sorcery goodness in future Commander sets. Like Magus of the Time.

[H]

Now we're talking!

Wow. I mean, this is really no where near Will's power-level, but it still pretty absurd.