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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    The all powerful Ludevic.


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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    The all powerful Ludevic.
    Yeah, definite let down there.

    This card is pretty real for EDH though:

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    A lot of the Innistrad and Innistrad-related flavour text is so godawful. The setting would be splendid for something poetic-feeling. But it's like they insist on the bluntest, most banal, ill-fitting statements they can manage.
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    Yeah, an insanely powerful block which put the "derp!" factor in Legacy completely over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    also I feel out of the 3 4 color commanders we got, [Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis] are the worst designed - I don't see what's Red about them?
    If you look at all the words printed in the text box and try to apply colors to them, you are right that nothing falls into the Red portion of the color pie. If instead you look at all the words in the text box and conclude that he is 'group hug' then makes a little more sense as part of his casting cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkenslight View Post
    Oh, and don't forget the powerful removal spell Parting Thoughts. 2B for sorcery-speed Murder + card draw, at the cost of life. Seems really quite potent.
    Nah, card only does something if you hit a creature with counters. Way too situational to justify running Dark Banishing.

    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    The all powerful Ludevic.

    Three cheers for fair cards? Hip, hip.... never mind.

    This idiot allows your opponent to draw a card as well. Ditto The Greek Lovers up there. I mean, I guess Wizards realized that making things Legacy playable made Commander sets sell in strange proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post


    I don't think this is playable (6 mana is still a lot), but has there been a draw-7 that worked out of the graveyard at Instant Speed before?
    I am looking at the card with Storm in mind. Alternative win con and wheelie from the grave in one, in a deck that can generate the mana. Probably not good enough, still interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumC View Post
    Three cheers for fair cards? Hip, hip.... never mind.

    This idiot allows your opponent to draw a card as well. Ditto The Greek Lovers up there. I mean, I guess Wizards realized that making things Legacy playable made Commander sets sell in strange proportions.
    What do you mean? These guys are great if you're not the one with them in play. Exactly what I want out of my opponent's decks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    I am looking at the card with Storm in mind. Alternative win con and wheelie from the grave in one, in a deck that can generate the mana. Probably not good enough, still interesting.
    6 mana is a lot, but possible with 3 good accelerant spells. The fact that the opponent also draws 7 is a major downside when storm decks often use discard-style disruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    6 mana is a lot, but possible with 3 good accelerant spells. The fact that the opponent also draws 7 is a major downside when storm decks often use discard-style disruption.
    1 led and 1 ritual and you're good to go, the best question to ask is if ad nauseam isnt just a better draw spell.

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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    I am looking at the card with Storm in mind. Alternative win con and wheelie from the grave in one, in a deck that can generate the mana. Probably not good enough, still interesting.
    Funny how this image shows the flavour text spelled correctly, but the one on mtgsalvation speaks of 'it's horns'.

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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Major flavor fail! Kynaios and Tiro should have been two separate cards... with Partner.
    Perhaps they're intent on being monogamous, I guess :-)

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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    1 led and 1 ritual and you're good to go, the best question to ask is if ad nauseam isnt just a better draw spell.
    The Upside is that the dragon effect is uncounterable. The downside is its actually useless without LED. Maybe a sort of RB storm deck that plays faithless looting? More PIFs? I could see a fun budget BR storm deck existing
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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    This card is pretty real for EDH though:

    Isn't this good as a Show and Tell hate card?

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    I don't think it will trigger if it is put in off of show and tell, so not really
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    Top quality german restraint there.

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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Yeah - both creatures ETB same time, so it's effect won't trigger since it wasn't on the battlefield as the S&T creature enters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Yeah - both creatures ETB same time, so it's effect won't trigger since it wasn't on the battlefield as the S&T creature enters.
    Creatures that enter simultaneously 'see each other enter', so it would create a copy. I'm not sure that's such a great way to deal with S&T though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    They can Wrath in response to the equip trigger, making the whole ordeal pointless.

    Not worthy, imho.

    Edit: Not sure into which shell she would fit into:
    Akiri, Rope Thrower
    Legendary Creature - Kor Soldier Ally
    First strike, vigilance
    Akiri, Rope Thrower has +1/+0 for each artifact you control.
    Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
    0/3

    In an artifact-heavy deck (Affinity? color-wise, probably more Painter), she has a built-in Plating and the combination of First Strike, Vigilance + high power makes her a pretty dominant ground creature.
    If akiri was modern legal I'd ha e immediate use for it. Legacy it seems weak and not a good replacement for ravager or vault but you can't deny the power of galvantic or shrapnel in a list that just wants to use artifacts as resources and not so much the source of damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    The Upside is that the dragon effect is uncounterable. The downside is its actually useless without LED. Maybe a sort of RB storm deck that plays faithless looting? More PIFs? I could see a fun budget BR storm deck existing
    Dragon effect also subject to graveyard hate. If there's ever a legacy Pyromancer Ascension deck, it might be a component.

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    New card of interest:

    Manifold Insights
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    Reveal the top ten cards of your library. Starting with the next opponent in turn order, each opponent chooses a different nonland card from among them. Put the chosen cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

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    Re: Commander 2016 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkenslight View Post
    New card of interest:

    Manifold Insights
    Sorcery
    Reveal the top ten cards of your library. Starting with the next opponent in turn order, each opponent chooses a different nonland card from among them. Put the chosen cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
    How is this a card of interest in legacy? You reveal the top 10 cards and get 1 (one!) card of an opponent's choice, meaning you probably won't get anything you actually need.

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