[Primer] R/G Lands

[Djehuti]

I built the deck online and i have been getting brutalized by surgicals from EVERY deck. What should I do about it? Diversify threats? Faerie Macbre?
I am playing portless quarter version atm.

Chalice on 1 helps.

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[Layalouhamesh]

Stupid idea of the night: against Miracles, should we believe that Marit Lage will never see play? If so, tracker may be the best option. But if not, maybe Pandemonium could be interesting, since the only answer the deck has to a direct 20 blast would be Venser, and STP would be of no use. Also 4CCM is not the easiest thing to counter.

[DNSolver]

Since you already have Loam + Boseiju, Fling might be better. Be aware that their plan would turn into casting Swords on their own creatures.

[filln]

Since you already have Loam + Boseiju, Fling might be better. Be aware that their plan would turn into casting Swords on their own creatures.

Maybe that just shows that Pandemonium could be the stronger of the two since Pandemonium is repeatable and you don't lose your creature. Pandemonium also forces them to have a Swords + one other removal since they need to first survive the 20 damage and then remove the token.

[chaosjace]

You have no idea how happy I am that someone suggested Fling, I have always liked that card.

[Poron]

overall Pandemonium sticks and it is much more difficult to counter while Fling dies to both CB (that against Land will be set at 2 100% of the time) and Spell Snare.

I still think that Molten Vortex and Punishing Fire is just better against Miracle anyway

[heckler]

I think the hate is mostly directed at reanimator that gains interest those times since it is good versus Miracles, and Lands is merely a collateral damage. An answer to surgical extraction is also surgical extraction :) You can remove the target of your opponent's spell, check the deck and declare to find nothing to remove, since it's a hidden area for the opponent.

since it says remove any number, you don't even have to be cheeky about it.

[chaosjace]

God forbid they land a good entreat after you drop pandemonium

[Layalouhamesh]

God forbid they land a good entreat after you drop pandemonium

Haha true, but If they manage to do so, you're kind of dead on the next turn anyway with or without Pandemonium.

Overall, I think the Pandemonium/Fling strategy is a bad idea. A simple surgical extraction on Dark Depth makes the card completely useless, but I can't figure out any win condition that Miracles is not prepared for, without having it based on Marit Lage. Tracker/Molten Vortex seem to remain the best options for now.

[filln]

God forbid they land a good entreat after you drop pandemonium

For what it's worth I think "Chaos Jace" would be a fitting deck name for Miracles that runs Pandemonium secret tech.

[chaosjace]

For what it's worth I think "Chaos Jace" would be a fitting deck name for Miracles that runs Pandemonium secret tech.

I intend to test pandemonium in my group, I conveniently play lands and miracles... hmm

[jarvisyu]

Man, Jarvis is on Delver this weekend, RIP

I have been for a while, heh.

[Chatto]

I have been for a while, heh.

And with good result, congrats! Question: why did you switch decks?

[Darkgobs]

Hey guys:
This great article was posted on the D&T thread (link), but I think it concerns us too (and every MtG player atcually).

So now we can talk again of that damn 61th card in Land!

[filln]

Heads up: Daryl Ayers on Lands is currently 10-0 and about to play against Joe Lossett on Miracles: https://www.twitch.tv/scglive

EDIT: Also sounds like he's on the four Ghost Quarter plan.

[Dice_Box]

I have been playing Stax of late, 3 Quarter 4 Wasteland. Trust me, that plan is solid.

[Layalouhamesh]

Heads up: Daryl Ayers on Lands is currently 10-0 and about to play against Joe Lossett on Miracles: https://www.twitch.tv/scglive

EDIT: Also sounds like he's on the four Ghost Quarter plan.

Do you have a link to a replay of the match?

[GiveMeYourOil]

Do you have a link to a replay of the match?

Here you go.
https://www.twitch.tv/scglive/v/99442521#

[supremePINEAPPLE]

David Long and Daryl Ayers are both in the top 8 too. Great weekend for Lands.

[Chatto]

Ayers vs Fabiano, now on SCG Live