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    I went to Eternal Extravaganza and went 3-3 before deciding to drop. I decided to play the 4C Enchantress list which felt very spicy. I knew that I needed to register Doomwake Giant because I knew D&T was everywhere but I think I still underestimated it. There was so much of it in the room. I did however want to do just a very short write up of my experiences.

    2-0 vs. Merfolk

    Nothing special going on here, this is a good matchup in general and I had no problem once I landed a Sphere of Safety.


    0-2 vs. TES

    I saw I was paired against A.J. Kerrigan so I knew I'd be playing against Storm and probably TES. I won the die roll and kept a hand with RIP (because there isn't much I even have to keep in G1) but after I spend my T1 playing an acceleration piece he goes off to Ad Naus but can't piece together the actual kill. I play RIP on T2 and pass back but he doesn't have too much trouble chaining spells to kill me when he untaps. In game 2 my opening hand has two Leylines but no lands. I contemplate keeping it but ultimately decide to ship it. My 6 has a RIP and Stony Silence so I keep it knowing I'm unlikely to win anyway. I play an accleraation piece and pass but he goes off and kills me on his T1.

    2-0 vs. Shardless

    Nothing too interesting in this game either. I still think this matchup is very swingy in either direction as either we lock them out of the game quickly or they do so to us. I'm glad I put RIP back maindeck from my online testing because it's so critical to win this matchup.


    0-2 vs. Burn

    I was a bit crestfallen to lose this matchup. It's certainly a very good matchup and obviously not un-loseable but I felt like I could've used this to push me to where I wanted to be in the standings. Game 1 I just kinda flooded out. In game 2 I kept a double Leyline hand but it wasn't able to do much when I couldn't find an anti-aggro piece and am getting beat down my Swiftspears as he bolts himself to trigger prowess.


    2-1 vs. Miracles

    I get wrecked pretty quickly in game 1. In game 2 we go back and forth and it is very exhausting because he played a Blood Moon which I wasn't expecting and had fetched some non-basics early on. I eventually find my plains and even though it takes a lot I am able to resolve a Sphere of Safety to protect me from an army of monks. In game 3 he mulligans to 5 and keeps a hand without a T1 play but scrys a land on top. I'm able to take advantage of the stumble enough when he has to Force my Stony Silence to keep his only hope in Top online and I get the engine going. He plays a blood moon at some point which slows me down for a moment but I land Nahiri to exile it and win from there.


    1-2 vs. Eldrazi

    I'll open by admitting that I made a game-losing misplay in G1 that wasn't caught by either of us players until a judge told me after the round ended. To be honest I was 100% okay losing once I found this out. I activated Nahiri's +1 ability with no cards left in my library to discard Emrakul and have her reshuffle. But as the judge pointed out to me Nahiri's ability finishes resolving first so I would've drawn from the empty library before Emrakul shuffles things back. The reason I didn't get an infraction is because my opponent conceded to discarding Emrakul and being able to reshuffle even though I had lost and you can of course concede at any time for any reason. Even worse I could've just discarded Emrakul to hand size limit the previous turn, I didn't have to try and dig to find Nahiri but I thought I could get a bit of extra value by doing so. I'm still a bit embarrassed over that misplay but these games were the most interesting I played all day. Anyway the reason it took so much effort to win that game in the first place is that my opponent had chalice on 1, 2, and 3 so I was using just a sphere of safety and Doomwake Giant to hold back any attacks while churning through my deck trying to play lands looking for Emrakul and Nahiri who both happened to be at the bottom. In G2 I got quickly beaten down (despite his mull to 5!) thanks to the now classic combo of TKS, Mimic, and Smasher. In G3 I land a T2 Blood Moon and am able to get 2 utopia sprawls on white and red to make sure that I'm good on mana. However without thinking I place a third Sprawl on green and that turns out to be a critical mistake. I can't find a Solitary, Worship, or Sphere of Safety and once I do I'm out of white mana because I had to spend it on the only enchantments I had in hand (sterling grove). So I'm unable to find the plains I need either. It was a bit messy and I'm pretty sure if I had put the 3rd Sprawl on White or Black I would've won because then I could have played Doomwake as well. After thinking about it for awhile I also think I could have won by searching up a Utopia Sprawl from the Sterling Grove but I missed the play at the time. Overall, this game was enough for me to choose to drop and just enjoy the rest of my day instead of trying to grind 2 more wins to prize out. With any luck I'll be back for SCG Baltimore with hopefully a better mental game.


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    Enchantment (28)

    4x Elephant Grass
    4x Enchantress's Presence
    1x Exploration
    3x Mirri's Guile
    2x Rest in Peace
    2x Solitary Confinement
    1x Sphere of Safety
    3x Sterling Grove
    4x Utopia Sprawl
    4x Wild Growth

    Sorcery (4)

    4x Green Sun's Zenith

    Artifact (1)

    1x Helm of Obedience

    Planeswalker (1)

    1x Nahiri, the Harbinger

    Land (20)

    1x Bayou
    7x Forest
    1x Plains
    1x Savannah
    3x Serra's Sanctum
    1x Taiga
    1x Verdant Catacombs
    4x Windswept Heath
    1x Wooded Foothills

    Creature (6)

    4x Argothian Enchantress
    1x Doomwake Giant
    1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

    Sideboard (15)

    1x Banishing Light
    1x Blood Moon
    1x City of Solitude
    1x Dread of Night
    1x Gaddock Teeg
    4x Leyline of Sanctity
    1x Replenish
    1x Rest in Peace
    1x Sterling Grove
    2x Stony Silence
    1x Worship

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Rough day bro. I'm probably gonna try out Nahiri some time here as well if I get a change since she's still easy to cast under my own moon. Do you ever find yourself wanting a banishing light main to hit chalices or anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Rough day bro. I'm probably gonna try out Nahiri some time here as well if I get a change since she's still easy to cast under my own moon. Do you ever find yourself wanting a banishing light main to hit chalices or anything?
    I have actually been playing without Exploration for some time but I made the last minute decision to include it which meant something else had to go. Of course Banishing Light is super useful so I did miss it a bit maindeck. I want to be able to figure out a configuration that brings it back main soon. I think also if I'm not maindecking it maybe it should've been an O-Ring because I had a moment where I wanted to O-ring my Blood Moon and just win casting Emrakul.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Maybe I just was a little too high last night, but how bad is this?

    4 Argothian Enchantress
    4 Enchantresss Presence
    2 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Worldspine Wurm
    4 Sneak Attack
    2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    3 Blood Moon
    4 Utopia Sprawl
    4 Wild Growth
    2 Nahiri, the Harbinger
    3 Mirri's Guile
    3 Elephant Grass
    2 City of Solitude

    I like the thought of making a pile of mana and casting green Sun for the wurm
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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Maybe I just was a little too high last night, but how bad is this?

    4 Argothian Enchantress
    4 Enchantresss Presence
    2 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Worldspine Wurm
    4 Sneak Attack
    2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    3 Blood Moon
    4 Utopia Sprawl
    4 Wild Growth
    2 Nahiri, the Harbinger
    3 Mirri's Guile
    3 Elephant Grass
    2 City of Solitude

    I like the thought of making a pile of mana and casting green Sun for the wurm


    I love the idea :D

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Went 3-1 at FNM last night with enchantress. I beat junk rock 2-1, lost to jund 1-2 then beat UW standstill and lands 2-0. In game 2 against lands my opponent ghost quartered me off all my basics, but I was able to keep casting spells because of Eladamri's vineyard. I sandbagged a serra's sanctum until I found RiP/helm and cast both to win in the same turn.

    If you haven't tried eladamri's vineyard before I highly recommend it. It gives the deck a ton of velocity, and it helps beat mana denial in the form of ports and ghost quarters. After quite a few games with it I'd say that it's uncommon for an opponent to be able to effectively use the extra green mana in any meaningful way.

    After the event I picked up a pair of peacekeepers to try in the sideboard.

    4 argothian enchantress
    4 enchantress' presence
    4 green sun's zenith
    1 doomwake giant
    1 emrakul
    1 sigil of the empty throne
    1 replenish
    4 elephant grass
    3 solitary confinement
    3 sterling grove
    2 mirri's guile
    1 banishing light
    4 wild growth
    4 utopia sprawl
    2 eladamri's vineyard
    1 exploration

    4 windswept heath
    2 wooded foothills
    1 plains
    1 dryad arbor
    1 bayou
    1 savannah
    1 karakas
    1 nykthos
    3 serra's sanctum
    5 forest

    4 leyline of sanctity
    2 RiP
    1 helm
    2 journey to nowhere
    1 humility
    2 suppression field
    1 gaddock Teeg
    1 reclamation sage
    1 dread of night

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Doesnt it lose the game against many decks tho by speeding up the opponent a turn earlier than you? Especially those that also play green

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fjaulnir View Post
    Doesnt it lose the game against many decks tho by speeding up the opponent a turn earlier than you? Especially those that also play green
    I said pretty much this exact thing to Curtis when he suggested the card to me. But he has a way about being right about cards, so I tried it in a few weeklies, and based on the matches I played, the extra mana was outrageously good for me.
    I did lose a game to Jund yesterday because of vineyard, where my opponent was able to hymn and goyf me on turn 2. But overall, I truly feel as if most decks don't have a good way to capitalize on the extra mana.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Since you played 3 nonblue decks in 4 rounds I guess that makes some sense.
    Overall I'm more a fan of maindeck Carpet, as it doesnt help your opponent +scales up later in game + adds mana the same turn already, but that's in a meta that's usually between 55-65% blue.


    Question to the people running Worships in their sideboards: do you bring them in against anything non-storm/emrakul/deathrite/miracles? (Out of my head the only decks that can either kill through Loss of life or remove Argothian)
    That would still be a crazy 44% of the meta... is the card *that* good? Or are there other matchups where you won't want this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjaulnir View Post

    Question to the people running Worships in their sideboards: do you bring them in against anything non-storm/emrakul/deathrite/miracles? (Out of my head the only decks that can either kill through Loss of life or remove Argothian)
    That would still be a crazy 44% of the meta... is the card *that* good? Or are there other matchups where you won't want this.

    I would bring Worship in against a Deathrite deck like Maverick or 4C Delver, especially if I felt like I have the room and could shave some main deck cards for it. It's mostly just there for the Eldrazi matchup though. When I was deciding on my sideboard for Eternal Extravaganza Worship was the last card I added and still debated if I shouldn't go with something else if that gives you an idea of how much I prioritize it. Something else would be perfectly suitable especially if you have a good read on the metagame. I just like it because it's a broad answer to many fair decks.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Quote Originally Posted by simdude View Post
    I would bring Worship in against a Deathrite deck like Maverick or 4C Delver, especially if I felt like I have the room and could shave some main deck cards for it.
    Thanks for the answer! But isn't shaving maindeck cards usually the biggest problem? ;) at least against fair decks where I neither want to cut on ramp spells (unless you ditch Emrakul altogether) nor on protection/lock pieces - cutting some Grass against combo decks is of course easier. But despite Chalice I'd still want both Elephant Grass + Solitary confinement against Eldrazi etc.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Boarding is kind of difficult. My first to cut are my win conditions that aren't relevant to the match up. Like if I don't think I need a sweeper effect I'll bring out doomwake. Then I look to my lock type effects that aren't relevant, example is like grass or Sphere of Safety against a harder control deck or creatureless combo. Next I look to cut down on things like exploration, more so in matches that I don't think I need to assemble things sort quickly. Finally I'll look at the enchantress themselves. It's not very often that I cut them, but I think once I did cut a green Sun or two because I just felt like I wanted more different hate pieces. These are the matches where I feel like locking my opponent out is most important. Sterling Grove also gets shaved down if I don't expect my opponent to have much removal for my stuff.
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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Apparently 1 Enchantress deck made it into D2 in the SCG Open this weekend, meaning it ended at least 6-3 yesterday.

    If anyone knows who the player is and/or which list he is on, that would be cool to know :)

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fjaulnir View Post
    Apparently 1 Enchantress deck made it into D2 in the SCG Open this weekend, meaning it ended at least 6-3 yesterday.

    If anyone knows who the player is and/or which list he is on, that would be cool to know :)
    I believe it was Jesse Hatfield on Junk Enchantress. Not sure about the exact list but it looked like he top 32'd so they'll probably post his list after the tournament. I heard it was pretty stock minus some leylines of the void in the sideboard.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    I believe it was Jesse Hatfield on Junk Enchantress. Not sure about the exact list but it looked like he top 32'd so they'll probably post his list after the tournament. I heard it was pretty stock minus some leylines of the void in the sideboard.
    Cool! I've recently also reverted to the black splash, after some months on just GW, so curious to see that configuration. Leyline could be what I'm still missing against some decks (albeit 2 back makes it hard to cast if it's not in your opener - but it has more synergy with Rip than Replenish which I still like to run 1x, so... mh.)



    EDIT: the standings have him on 31th place so I guess you're right:
    http://static.starcitygames.com/www/...315000000.html
    (31 points meaning 10-4-1 [or theoretically 9-2-4], not bad at all for such a long tourney)

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=109267

    A few interesting decisions. 2 doomwake is a pretty clear statement that he's out for DnT blood, and I can't blame him. He's also decided to play without karakas, which is more than reasonable, and without dryad arbor, which I don't love, but understand. All in all, I like his list a lot.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    That's about the exact 60 I sent a buddy the other day as what I'd play except exploration instead of carpet. I don't hate no karakas. It's not great. I've never run dryad arbor personally either.
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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Yeah, I really like the list, though I'd try to work a City of Solitude into the 75. Not a fan of Karakas or Dryad Arbor either. I think that you need a pretty compelling reason to run a nonbasic land in Enchantress.

    Lands is ordinarily a pretty favorable matchup, but the adoption of Ghost Quarter over Port might make Sheltering Prayers or Spiritual Asylum worth considering.

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    I have considered a 2nd Doomwake so I can get behind that. Would suck for my wallet though, I'd need to buy a second beta bayou now

    Maindeck Carpet is definately something I agree with. Dryad I was trying both in and out, so that may be a good call (I just added it again after cutting it, I hate the 1 slot it takes from something else but I also hate having plenty 3-mana effects +gsz in hand and no Wild growth...)

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    Re: [Deck] Solitaire (Enchantress)

    Quote Originally Posted by btm10 View Post
    Yeah, I really like the list, though I'd try to work a City of Solitude into the 75. Not a fan of Karakas or Dryad Arbor either. I think that you need a pretty compelling reason to run a nonbasic land in Enchantress.

    Lands is ordinarily a pretty favorable matchup, but the adoption of Ghost Quarter over Port might make Sheltering Prayers or Spiritual Asylum worth considering.
    Prayers helps against ports too from DNT. The asylum costs too much imo for it to matter
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