[Primer] Eldrazi Stompy

[Noloam_]

Just beat a Burn player in game 3 through an Ensnaring Bridge by having 1 Chalices on 1 and Eye searching for my 1 of Endbringer ping 1 damaged through 10 life kill him. Feels good.

did you board in endbringer vs burn XD? i tried that strategy vs e.bridge miracles sometimes, it never worked out

[Darkness]

did you board in endbringer vs burn XD? i tried that strategy vs e.bridge miracles sometimes, it never worked out

I brought it in since I only have 1 Ratchet Bomb and figured it could be another out to a bridge. I don't think it is a resonable option as it is super slow, just didn't have anything else to bring in. I got lucky for sure lol.

[Noloam_]

I brought it in since I only have 1 Ratchet Bomb and figured it could be another out to a bridge. I don't think it is a resonable option as it is super slow, just didn't have anything else to bring in. I got lucky for sure lol.

hehhehe im glad my sideboard is so straight forward, so i dont get tempted to board odd cards ^^. thorn / thoughknot /tempo / them not having lands also does the trick i.m.o

what did you cut and bring in then? -2 dismember -2 sower -1 tomb / + karakas + 4 thorn is what i do.

[Darkness]

hehhehe im glad my sideboard is so straight forward, so i dont get tempted to board odd cards ^^. thorn / thoughknot /tempo / them not having lands also does the trick i.m.o

what did you cut and bring in then? -2 dismember -2 sower -1 tomb / + karakas + 4 thorn is what i do.

I did -2 dismembers -1 Tomb / + 1 Karakas +1 Enbringer +1 Bomb

I was referring to our guide but I think that strategy is more stream line I will update it and use that going forward. I think it's good for game 2 but if you see a Bridge I will be bringing in the only bomb I have left in my board.

[Noloam_]

I did -2 dismembers -1 Tomb / + 1 Karakas +1 Enbringer +1 Bomb

I was referring to our guide but I think that strategy is more stream line I will update it and use that going forward. I think it's good for game 2 but if you see a Bridge I will be bringing in the only bomb I have left in my board.

wut no thorns? thorns are quite good. i Always board in 2-4 thorns. they keep 1 lands all the time. with a thorn in play they cant play bridge in time and they cant double burn TKS. i dont know why it is not in our sideboard guide

[potatodavid]

wut no thorns? thorns are quite good. i Always board in 2-4 thorns. they keep 1 lands all the time. with a thorn in play they cant play bridge in time and they cant double burn TKS. i dont know why it is not in our sideboard guide

This!

I'm usually too terrified of being price of progressed to death but thorn pretty much destroys their whole gameplan outside of that.

[Noloam_]

This!

I'm usually too terrified of being price of progressed to death but thorn pretty much destroys their whole gameplan outside of that.

yes price is very bad. thats why i dont play a lot of lands and keep wasteland up, to waste myself. But most of the time, if the can afford to play arround thorn, they are flooded anyway.

[Noloam_]

2th time 5-0 in ONE DAY. i hope they post it on mtggoldfish. i ripped a exploration and an snappy from 8 chests :)



-Bug delver
-ANT
-miracles
-miracles
-Belcher

[Whitefaces]

They don't usually post multiple 5-0s on the same day I think, my friend (FGC on modo) got two on the same day and only one was posted.

[RhoxWarMonk]

2th time 5-0 in ONE DAY. i hope they post it on mtggoldfish. i ripped a exploration and an snappy from 8 chests :)

-Bug delver
-ANT
-miracles
-miracles
-Belcher

Wow, congrats man! That's incredible, great run. I see you're running Confusion in the Ranks consistently now? Sorry if this was discussed at some point (Ive been out of the loop) but this is obviously for the Sneak and Show matchup?

So, you either steal their Omni or you put down CitR off SnT and then next turn pop down a Mimic/Endless one and steal their Griselbrand/Emrakul? Is that correct? If so, that's fucking genius lol I'm gonna have to try that myself.

[Noloam_]

Wow, congrats man! That's incredible, great run. I see you're running Confusion in the Ranks consistently now? Sorry if this was discussed at some point (Ive been out of the loop) but this is obviously for the Sneak and Show matchup?

So, you either steal their Omni or you put down CitR off SnT and then next turn pop down a Mimic/Endless one and steal their Griselbrand/Emrakul? Is that correct? If so, that's fucking genius lol I'm gonna have to try that myself.

tnx guys :)! yes i run it for omni and sneaky show. well, it is even better.........if you already have a creature and they show in a creature and you show in the confusion, then the confusion also triggers for the shown in creature. So if you have a mimic and they show in emrakul, you get the emrakul on the spot :)

[RhoxWarMonk]

tnx guys :)! yes i run it for omni and sneaky show. well, it is even better.........if you already have a creature and they show in a creature and you show in the confusion, then the confusion also triggers for the shown in creature. So if you have a mimic and they show in emrakul, you get the emrakul on the spot :)

Man that's spicy tech, I love it!! I find this matchup very tough... Endbringer is ok but it doesn't seal the deal like confusion does.

Great comment about how confusion triggers as well. Time to modify my Sideboard, appreciate the tip noloam!

[Noloam_]

Man that's spicy tech, I love it!! I find this matchup very tough... Endbringer is ok but it doesn't seal the deal like confusion does.

Great comment about how confusion triggers as well. Time to modify my Sideboard, appreciate the tip noloam!

good luck with it! it really is a keeper for me. It just makes sure that you no longer have terrible matchups (except for lands, but 1 needle is not gonna change that).

[pateuglow]

good luck with it! it really is a keeper for me. It just makes sure that you no longer have terrible matchups (except for lands, but 1 needle is not gonna change that).

Just to be clear, this does not trigger when Marit Lage is put into play, correct?

[Noloam_]

Just to be clear, this does not trigger when Marit Lage is put into play, correct?

It does trigger. But there is no realistic way that you will hardcast it :)

[pateuglow]

It does trigger. But there is no realistic way that you will hardcast it :)

Hey, we run SSG right?

[Noloam_]

Hey, we run SSG right?

[Minniehajj]

Forgive me if this is frowned upon, I'll happily delete my question, but I figured it doesn't hurt to at least ask.

I'm a pretty exclusive miracles-only player, and I'm fairly active on the Miracles thread here on the source. For month, I've been trying to "solve" the Eldrazi matchup and we come up with small edges every once in a while, but it feels as if your spaghetti monsters adapt to any "tech" fairly easily. People tried Moat, Blood Moon, other enchantments, and you adapted with Oblivion Sower > Ulamog which demolishes the idea of hiding behind an enchantment of any sort, and other adaptations of such things.

I'm here to ask, how do I beat you? I am loathe to have nonbasic land hate if it's a) only for this one matchup and b) you can usually beat it anyway. I think I've just been looking at it the wrong way, and so I'd like to ask you all how miracles players primarily beat you? Does it usually involve you stumbling? A fast Mentor? Nothing seems consistent and I've been tearing my hair out in order to solve this matchup or at least make it even slightly more reasonable than the 90-10 or 80-20 that it feels like for me.

Again, apologies if a discussion like this is frowned upon, but I figured I'd get the best information directly from the best among the Eldrazi players.
I appreciate any and all input!

[Noloam_]

Forgive me if this is frowned upon, I'll happily delete my question, but I figured it doesn't hurt to at least ask.

I'm a pretty exclusive miracles-only player, and I'm fairly active on the Miracles thread here on the source. For month, I've been trying to "solve" the Eldrazi matchup and we come up with small edges every once in a while, but it feels as if your spaghetti monsters adapt to any "tech" fairly easily. People tried Moat, Blood Moon, other enchantments, and you adapted with Oblivion Sower > Ulamog which demolishes the idea of hiding behind an enchantment of any sort, and other adaptations of such things.

I'm here to ask, how do I beat you? I am loathe to have nonbasic land hate if it's a) only for this one matchup and b) you can usually beat it anyway. I think I've just been looking at it the wrong way, and so I'd like to ask you all how miracles players primarily beat you? Does it usually involve you stumbling? A fast Mentor? Nothing seems consistent and I've been tearing my hair out in order to solve this matchup or at least make it even slightly more reasonable than the 90-10 or 80-20 that it feels like for me.

Again, apologies if a discussion like this is frowned upon, but I figured I'd get the best information directly from the best among the Eldrazi players.
I appreciate any and all input!

it is a fair question. I play miracles exclusively in paper also. The fair answer is: there is not a solid answer available. Its always a combination of cards. I believe the landhate is the best way to deal with eldrazi + terminus. Dwarven Blastminer for example is a good one + some counter / removal backup

[Darkness]

Forgive me if this is frowned upon, I'll happily delete my question, but I figured it doesn't hurt to at least ask.

I'm a pretty exclusive miracles-only player, and I'm fairly active on the Miracles thread here on the source. For month, I've been trying to "solve" the Eldrazi matchup and we come up with small edges every once in a while, but it feels as if your spaghetti monsters adapt to any "tech" fairly easily. People tried Moat, Blood Moon, other enchantments, and you adapted with Oblivion Sower > Ulamog which demolishes the idea of hiding behind an enchantment of any sort, and other adaptations of such things.

I'm here to ask, how do I beat you? I am loathe to have nonbasic land hate if it's a) only for this one matchup and b) you can usually beat it anyway. I think I've just been looking at it the wrong way, and so I'd like to ask you all how miracles players primarily beat you? Does it usually involve you stumbling? A fast Mentor? Nothing seems consistent and I've been tearing my hair out in order to solve this matchup or at least make it even slightly more reasonable than the 90-10 or 80-20 that it feels like for me.

Again, apologies if a discussion like this is frowned upon, but I figured I'd get the best information directly from the best among the Eldrazi players.
I appreciate any and all input!

I agree with noloam the only losses I've ever had to miracles is from land disruption. I faced an opponent who used from the ashes, it felt miserable.