Miracle Control

[Quasim0ff]

Oh, by your logic, whatever I wrote is garbage, and whatever you wrote is a fact? Just because you claim my statement is incorrect, that must make yours to be true, are you a mind reader who can read my mind on what I like or dislike? Thanks for refuting other people's opinion by claiming your own opinion as a fact, and being a psychic.

GPT Louisville at The Geekery HQ, Dec. 17th, Miracles - Sam Roukas, where's Predict?
MKM Series Prague 2016, Nov. 27th, Miracles - Angelo Cadei, where's Predict?

Let me know the next time Roukas and/or Cadei picking up Predict again.

Cadei doesn't play predict. he never has, neither has Tomas etc.

I am not stating what I'm saying is truth, necessarily. I am saying that you dismissing predict from day one invalidates your opinion of the card. You are also a die-hard legends player, meaning you are obviously not looking for that effect.

[MiraclesWizard]

Joe Lossett has raised the red flag for GP Louisville....watch out for Aluren, its getting big.

[prepare4robots]

Joe Lossett has raised the red flag for GP Louisville....watch out for Aluren, its getting big.

Given this, what is A) the best way to break up the combo post board; and, B) the best sideboard cards against it? Would be good understand this.

[ironclad8690]

Joe Lossett has raised the red flag for GP Louisville....watch out for Aluren, its getting big.

What did he do exactly? Can you link to stream if he said it there?

[ironclad8690]

Given this, what is A) the best way to break up the combo post board; and, B) the best sideboard cards against it? Would be good understand this.

Best way to break up is counter aluren, harpy.

E Canonist is good against, wear/tear mvp 2 for 1. Needle on harpy. Cb with 2 on top is pretty good.

Recruiter versions are a little tougher because they pack e witness to re buy countered pieces from yard. Imagine this version like omnishow, with recruiter being the cunning wish, aluren being omni.

They will all have carpet of flowers post board and more outs to cb (rec sage, more decay, k grip).

[btm10]

Given this, what is A) the best way to break up the combo post board; and, B) the best sideboard cards against it? Would be good understand this.

Pithing Needle, Cannonist, and Phyrexian Revoker are the best ways to turn off the BUG version, though they can beat you with the value plan then, and it doesn't complicate them finding their anti-hate that much since they run normal cantrips and Traverse the Ulvenwald to find combo pieces. Recruiter builds can just tutor for their answer straight away, though Aether Flash can force them to throw away several cards to do it. Suppression Field and Sphere of Resistance are the actual best things, but are obviously bad in Miracles. The Legends version is probably the best equipped to fight Aluren because it's the most capable of dealing with a random assortment of permanents and 1-of surprise answers.

[Poron]

Annul, Swan Song and Cursed Totem imho are great against them

[TswizzleFOshizzle]

Joe Lossett has raised the red flag for GP Louisville....watch out for Aluren, its getting big.

It certainly is great to get the opinion of Joe Lossett. I'd also be interested in hearing what Legacy Genius and Guru Wilson Hunter has to say about Aluren.

[Patrunkenphat7]

It certainly is great to get the opinion of Joe Lossett. I'd also be interested in hearing what Legacy Genius and Guru Wilson Hunter has to say about Aluren.

Happy Trollmas, Twizzle.

[MiraclesWizard]

What did he do exactly? Can you link to stream if he said it there?

he didn't get into it, it was a tweet. He mentioned theres been a ton of aluren being played on MTGO along with a couple of well known pros playing aluren that normally don't

[jdmdave]

Alright, pulling the trigger with 10 hours left on the SCG sale. I presume the Daze+Mentor build isn't really viable without a full compliment of duals

* 9 fetchs
* 6 Islands
* 1 Plains
* 1 Tundra - 1x 120
* 1 Steam Vents
* 1 Plateau
* 1 Praerie Stream
* 3 Mentors - 1x for 5.94
* 3 Snapcasters
* 1 Jace
* 4 Counterbalance - 4x 40
* 4 STP
* 4 Brainstorm
* 4 Ponder - 3x for 2.50
* 4 Terminus
* 1 Counterspell
* 2 Predict - 2x for 1.00
* 1 EE
* 1 Councils Judgment - 1x for 5.35

[TswizzleFOshizzle]

Alright, pulling the trigger with 10 hours left on the SCG sale. I presume the Daze+Mentor build isn't really viable without a full compliment of duals

* 9 fetchs
* 6 Islands
* 1 Plains
* 1 Tundra - 1x 120
* 1 Steam Vents
* 1 Plateau
* 1 Praerie Stream
* 3 Mentors - 1x for 5.94
* 3 Snapcasters
* 1 Jace
* 4 Counterbalance - 4x 40
* 4 STP
* 4 Brainstorm
* 4 Ponder - 3x for 2.50
* 4 Terminus
* 1 Counterspell
* 2 Predict - 2x for 1.00
* 1 EE
* 1 Councils Judgment - 1x for 5.35

Is anything affordable if you're buying from SCG?

[drocker23]

Is anything affordable if you're buying from SCG?

i buy singles from coolstuffinc
the things i like about them:

1) card quality is fantastic
2) shipping times are reasonable
3) the more you buy from them, the more of a discount you get so it rewards repeat purchasing
4) prices are reasonable

[jdmdave]

I live in China which makes it more complicated.

* Coolstuffinc/TCGplayer is more expensive than SCG when you factor in shipping
* CFB has crap stock
* taobao sellers have fake shit
* Abugames currently doesn't have what I'm looking for, although free shipping is nice

[CutthroatCasual]

Given this, what is A) the best way to break up the combo post board; and, B) the best sideboard cards against it? Would be good understand this.

Blood Moon can be backbreaking if it comes down early enough. They need to win, so if they can't cast Aluren then that gives you more time to lock them out even more. The deck also doesn't normally play that many basics (definitely not 2 forests). Meddling Mage is another great option. REB counters their combo creatures.

[hyp3r1on]

Blood Moon would never excite me against Aluren, but I also hate Blood Moon as a sideboard card and especially against Deathrite decks. In terms of sideboard hosers to specifically target Aluren - Humility is probably the most potent. Many Aluren decks don't have an answer to Humility in their 75.

In my opinion though, Aluren versus Miracles is close to a 50-50 matchup tipping in one direction depending on pilot skill. My usual game plan versus the deck is to set up Jace as soon as possible to match the card advantage engine of Aluren. Also hide key counterspells with top to ensure you have an answer to the enchantment that is safe from discard. Most of the time the way I lose postboard is due to Carpet of Flowers. Answering that is paramount.

[lordofthepit]

In terms of sideboard hosers to specifically target Aluren - Humility is probably the most potent. Many Aluren decks don't have an answer to Humility in their 75.

[hyp3r1on]

@lordofthepit. Omg - you just sparked my creative juices. I need to get my Humility altered like this:

[Quasim0ff]

Blood moon is actually pretty bad vs bug Aluren, which is the most played card. We want U, U, W, R and they usually rely on carpet post game to leverage their value cards.

Mentor as well as Jace is both incredibly potent against them. This is a match up where I don't mind counterbalance as much help, even though they are bug.

You also want all your blasts post board, because hitting harpy is really good. Swords is, as usual, poor vs them.

Also, Aluren is a garbage deck (c) Legacy guru and Genius, Wilson Hunter

[Whitefaces]

I've played the BUG version a bunch now, Blood Moon is absolutely awful vs the deck. 4 basics, Carpet of Flowers, DRS. I don't need to say much more.

Humility is 99% of the time going to be GG.