View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Namida View Post
    Fun fact: Tendrils of Agony translates to "Tentacles of Anguish" in Japanese, so we're already halfway there.
    I've heard that Empty the Warrens has a pretty funny translation, too.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Is it drain the swamp per chance?
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    I still have a strong suspicion that if 'Thalia, Heretic Cathar' had been named 'Frank, Heretic Cathar', people would be a lot more skeptical of it.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Mcdonalds View Post
    Is it drain the swamp per chance?
    LOL!

    I found the link that had some pretty great translations if you Google Translate it: http://www.bigmagic.net/bmo05/legacy/03.html

    Highlights include "Regular Work" for Preordain, "Goblin of Arson Gun" for Charbelcher, "Glyceraldehyde Brand" for Griselbrand, "Squirting the Tyrant" for Tidespout, and "Crimson Hell" for Pyroclasm.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Squirting the Tyrant sounds like a hentai I've (likely) watched
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    I still have a strong suspicion that if 'Thalia, Heretic Cathar' had been named 'Frank, Heretic Cathar', people would be a lot more skeptical of it.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I know "Greater Good" was apparently mistranslated as "Better Merchandise" but I can't remember which language that was in.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce View Post
    "Crimson Hell" for Pyroclasm.
    Google Translate tells me it's "Crimson Breast".

    Other stuff:
    "Ceremonial Ceremony / Cabal Ritual"
    "Congress of Congress / Council's Judgment"
    "Behind the Beatles / Craterhoof Behemoth"

    And Jace is appearently called Jerry in Japan.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Anyone read that SCG Premium article? I know we're boycotting that store so... if there's some way
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual View Post
    Anyone read that SCG Premium article? I know we're boycotting that store so... if there's some way
    I don't have premium. What was it about?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual View Post
    Anyone read that SCG Premium article? I know we're boycotting that store so... if there's some way
    If only there was a way to be more specific... seriously, there are like 10 a day.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Mcdonalds View Post
    Squirting the Tyrant sounds like a hentai I've (likely) watched
    The Japanese translation for Tidespout Tyrant literally means that kind of squirting (the word they use is the same one for a geyser eruption, but it's slang for a *different* kind of geyser). People at my local store normally scream something obscene everytime one hits play.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    This is, without compare, the best use of this thread bar none.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by wsurugby10 View Post
    I don't have premium. What was it about?
    Neither do it, I just read the 2 paragraph preview. The talked about "Miracles dominating Legacy."

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    If only there was a way to be more specific... seriously, there are like 10 a day.
    The one by Sam Black titled "My Banned Wish List."
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    That is actually mindblowing knowing that and I now need a set of Japanese Tyrants on the off chance I play them xD
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    I still have a strong suspicion that if 'Thalia, Heretic Cathar' had been named 'Frank, Heretic Cathar', people would be a lot more skeptical of it.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Jerry
    "Jerry, Jace, the Mind Sculptor." "Jess, Jess, Jace, the Mind Sculptor." "Jerus, Jess, the Mind Sculptor." "Vincent's Shadow, Jayce." I can't maintain.

    Regarding the banlist wish list, has anyone read the whole article? Interested to hear what else (if anything) it says about Legacy. I'm guessing the preview version said everything there is to hear, but still.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Does anyone on here actually pay for star city premium so they can read these useless articles? Seriously. You're paying money to read "better content" but you end up with some dudes wish list on cards he think should be banned. I could write a blog post that is equally meaningful
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrey View Post
    Lets play a minigame. Find the broken card. 4 possible starting hands:








    I choose misty rainforest, seriously.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ramanujan View Post
    I choose misty rainforest, seriously.
    Of course its misty Rainforest in all these examples. Its the card which powers ever Ponder, Brainstorm, TC. Its essentially what I say since forever: The enabler is not Brainstorm but fetchlands
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I get the sense from the comments that Sam Black's article is mostly about Modern, but he does argue for banning Sensei's Divining Top in Legacy on the basis that 1) Miracles is too dominant in Legacy, and has been for a long time, 2) the Counterbalance/Sensei's Divining Top lock is too miserable to play against, and 3) Sensei's Divining Top uses up too much clock time. He specifically states that it should have been banned in Legacy when it was banned in Extended for reason 3 alone, but alleges that it was left alone because WotC doesn't particularly care about the health of Legacy.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    An anecdote for the cantrip haters:

    At my FNM last night I played a degenerate 20-land 8-cantrip Stoneblade deck with 4 drops.

    I got paired against Maverick, which I think is a bad matchup for Stoneblade. I ended up winning the match 2-0. How did it happen?

    My opponent had reasonable hands and played well to the best that I could tell from the other side. I was definitely on
    the ropes in several spots. But throughout the match I cast infinite cantrips (hiding fetchable lands and Equipments and shuffling them away like a skillful Blue player) and always found the timely land, the timely Wear/Tear, the timely Supreme Verdict, the timely True-Name Nemesis. There were cards my opponent could have that would mean trouble for me. But he could only hope to draw them naturally, without the assistance of Skillstorm and Pondurdle.

    I guess all I'm really saying is "yup, cantrips are stupidly good". While I'm not advocating a particular ban, it is definitely interesting to imagine a Legacy format where you couldn't build the kind of deck I played. I'd like to think that right now we are at a point where the format has adapted to discourage this kind of deckbuilding with Chalice, Counter-Top, Thalia, etc.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix View Post
    While I'm not advocating a particular ban, it is definitely interesting to imagine a Legacy format where you couldn't build the kind of deck I played.
    Try running the same deck with Ponder + Preordain and see how pointless banning Brainstorm is for that kind of deck, as long as Fetchlands allow you to cherrypick cards off cantrips and a perfect manabase.

    It is outright confusing if you name Miracles a SOLUTION to the cantrip orgy if the deck runs Brainstorm & Ponder itself
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