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    [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    I made this deck to screw around with Gonti, and it turned out to be pretty fun. The basic idea is to "borrow" my opponent's stuff by blinking or otherwise recasting Gonti and copying his ETB trigger. I've also included a bunch of other useful ETB effects and random theft spells. I hope to eventually pimp this out as a true Lord of Luxury must be surrounded by it at all times. Suggestions are certainly welcome.

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    Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Creature (21)
    Big Game Hunter
    Chainer, Dementia Master
    Crypt Ghast
    Fleshbag Marauder
    Geth, Lord of the Vault
    Gray Merchant of Asphodel
    Lord of the Void
    Massacre Wurm
    Necrotic Ooze
    Nekrataal
    Ophiomancer
    Overseer of the Damned
    Phyrexian Delver
    Phyrexian Gargantua
    Puppeteer Clique
    Sepulchral Primordial
    Sidisi, Undead Vizier
    Solemn Simulacrum
    Vampire Hexmage
    Viscera Seer
    Withered Wretch

    Instant (8)
    Corpse Dance
    Hero's Downfall
    Imp's Mischief
    Scour from Existence
    Sudden Spoiling
    Vampiric Tutor
    Wake the Dead
    Wretched Confluence

    Sorcery (10)
    Beacon of Unrest
    Damnation
    Decree of Pain
    Demonic Tutor
    Night's Whisper
    Praetor's Grasp
    Read the Bones
    Rise of the Dark Realms
    Ritual of the Machine
    Sins of the Past

    Artifact (18)
    Ashnod's Altar
    Blade of Selves
    Commander's Sphere
    Conjurer's Closet
    Crucible of Worlds
    Erratic Portal
    Expedition Map
    Lux Cannon
    Mimic Vat
    Mind Stone
    Nim Deathmantle
    Panharmonicon
    Sculpting Steel
    Sol Ring
    Strionic Resonator
    Tawnos's Coffin
    Unstable Obelisk
    Wayfarer's Bauble

    Enchantment (4)
    Animate Dead
    Attrition
    Grave Betrayal
    Phyrexian Arena

    Planeswalker (1)
    Liliana of the Veil

    Land (37)
    Arcane Lighthouse
    Barren Moor
    Bloodstained Mire
    Bojuka Bog
    Buried Ruin
    Cabal Coffers
    Command Beacon
    Deserted Temple
    Marsh Flats
    Polluted Delta
    Shizo, Death's Storehouse
    Strip Mine
    20 Swamp
    Temple of the False God
    Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    Verdant Catacombs
    Volrath's Stronghold
    Westvale Abbey
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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    No Corpse Dance?

    Gonti plus that, plus a sac outlet seems pretty good, especially if you had something like Ashnod's Altar.

    Even with just Visera Seer, it's pretty damn good, I think Danse is near a must-include.
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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    No Corpse Dance?

    Gonti plus that, plus a sac outlet seems pretty good, especially if you had something like Ashnod's Altar.

    Even with just Visera Seer, it's pretty damn good, I think Danse is near a must-include.
    Adding Corpse Dance means maintaining graveyard order, and that sounds like work. Kidding aside, that is probably much better than Victimize in this deck, though I'm not sure I have enough sacrifice outlets. Currently there's really only Viscera Seer and Attrition, so I'd probably have to add at least one or two more. I'll give that some more thought.

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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Quote Originally Posted by Davran View Post
    Adding Corpse Dance means maintaining graveyard order, and that sounds like work. Kidding aside, that is probably much better than Victimize in this deck, though I'm not sure I have enough sacrifice outlets. Currently there's really only Viscera Seer and Attrition, so I'd probably have to add at least one or two more. I'll give that some more thought.
    I hear that often, is it just that the idea of maintaining it is so ingrained in me that I don't even notice I'm doing it?

    Corpse Dance also "combos" with Conjurer's Closet as well (and Erratic Portal), not just sac effects, even though the Altar might well be good to include for "ramp" purposes using creatures that have done their jobs (ETB trigger).
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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    I hear that often, is it just that the idea of maintaining it is so ingrained in me that I don't even notice I'm doing it?
    I do it too most of the time. The problem is when someone else looks at your yard for some reason and doesn't bother keeping it, but I guess this is a casual format so whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Corpse Dance also "combos" with Conjurer's Closet as well (and Erratic Portal), not just sac effects, even though the Altar might well be good to include for "ramp" purposes using creatures that have done their jobs (ETB trigger).
    It does and it doesn't. You get around the exile clause by using the stack like a pro...but you still need to put the thing in the bin in the first place for Corpse Dance to do anything. Having Closet/Portal/Coffin is a different way to accomplish the same thing.

    The sac outlets are what make Corpse Dance worth it, since with buyback you could theoretically cast it multiple times per turn. To that end, Altar is certainly the best of them, as it would become per ETB ability you want and at instant speed.


    Seems like I've convinced myself. I'll make some room for this for sure.

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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Quote Originally Posted by Davran View Post
    I do it too most of the time. The problem is when someone else looks at your yard for some reason and doesn't bother keeping it, but I guess this is a casual format so whatever.
    Yeah, I mean, shit happens. You could tell them, "don't rearrange my damn 'yard! M-F" which sounds like something I would do with our group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davran View Post
    It does and it doesn't. You get around the exile clause by using the stack like a pro...but you still need to put the thing in the bin in the first place for Corpse Dance to do anything. Having Closet/Portal/Coffin is a different way to accomplish the same thing.

    The sac outlets are what make Corpse Dance worth it, since with buyback you could theoretically cast it multiple times per turn. To that end, Altar is certainly the best of them, as it would become per ETB ability you want and at instant speed.


    Seems like I've convinced myself. I'll make some room for this for sure.
    That's true, but since Gonti has deathtouch, it sometimes might be good to block and then return him.

    I think Dance is better than Vicitimize. Possibly Altar for Imp's Mischief, but I'm less sure on that.
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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    That's true, but since Gonti has deathtouch, it sometimes might be good to block and then return him.
    Maybe it's my group, but I tend to find that random deathtouch guys are often significant deterrence from getting attacked. No one wants to trade their big dumb idiot for my 2/3. That said, blocking (or attacking into less than favorable blocks) is certainly one of the more attractive elements to having a commander with deathtouch.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    I think Dance is better than Vicitimize. Possibly Altar for Imp's Mischief, but I'm less sure on that.
    Corpse Dance and Victimize are swapping for sure, that one's easy.

    As for Altar, I was thinking of cutting Myriad Landscape for it. It's far and away the worst land in the deck, and for the moment anyway I'm happy with everything else. I don't think I'll miss the land all that much, and Altar is more or less "ramp" anyway in a pinch.

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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Quote Originally Posted by Davran View Post
    Maybe it's my group, but I tend to find that random deathtouch guys are often significant deterrence from getting attacked. No one wants to trade their big dumb idiot for my 2/3. That said, blocking (or attacking into less than favorable blocks) is certainly one of the more attractive elements to having a commander with deathtouch.
    Yeah, attacking would probably have been a better example, especially attacking Planeswalkers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davran View Post
    Corpse Dance and Victimize are swapping for sure, that one's easy.

    As for Altar, I was thinking of cutting Myriad Landscape for it. It's far and away the worst land in the deck, and for the moment anyway I'm happy with everything else. I don't think I'll miss the land all that much, and Altar is more or less "ramp" anyway in a pinch.
    Yeah, that seems good. Skimping slightly on lands in multiplayer is probably one of the best strategies, honestly, since the games go long, you'll probably get to enough mana in due time.
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    Re: [EDH] Gonti, Lord of Luxury

    Cut Custodi Lich for Lux Cannon. Lich is cute and all, but it doesn't do much overall. As for cannon, I figure that a Lord of Luxury obviously has access to a giant space laser, plus it gives me some artifact and enchantment removal (even if it is super slow).

    I'm also looking to pick up a Helm of Possession in the near future. I stole one with Gonti the last time I played the deck, and it was quite useful. On theme, too.

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