Miracle Control

[FZA]

Yeah, 20 minute Miracles mirror games should not be even slightly difficult. Every now and then you'll get an insane slog-of-a-game, but most mirror games are no longer than other Legacy matchups. In fact, I'd argue that Delver mirrors very often go longer because you kill each other's creatures and don't have something like CounterTop to lock up the game by turn 3.

Yeah, Miracles mirrors are nothing compared to some of the other mirrors out there...the Shardless mirror can get pretty dumb when both players have 3 Baleful Strixes on the board and nobody wants to attack. Miracles v Lands can also be a pretty long slog.

[Sibelius]

well i too realised that it is mostly 2 players putting up these results. Then again does that mean that overall Miracles is currently not in a good spot? On the other hand there are decent results for miracles at major tournaments like gp louisville. that what keeps me wondering whether it is just me making mistakes or the deck not being good at the moment.

Miracles is thought to be the 'best deck' by most people. If you are having issues it may be your metagame is especially hateful or the way you are playing.
If you are not really experienced in the format then a deck that has so many decisions will give you many opportunities to make the wrong choice. Watch some videos or streams of successful players and try and see where their decisions differ from yours.
Good luck!

Sib

[lordofthepit]

So for the first time, I got a Miracles list posted as a 5-0 in a league for which I didn't even go 5-0. Apparently, this has also happened with another Miracles player I know. Is there something about the MTGO posting algorithm that somehow may cause Miracles list to be over-represented among these 5-0 lists?

(I have also had several 5-0s for which the lists were never posted. I think these were usually with decks other than Miracles.)

[FZA]

So for the first time, I got a Miracles list posted as a 5-0 in a league for which I didn't even go 5-0. Apparently, this has also happened with another Miracles player I know. Is there something about the MTGO posting algorithm that somehow may cause Miracles list to be over-represented among these 5-0 lists?

(I have also had several 5-0s for which the lists were never posted. I think these were usually with decks other than Miracles.)

Well with regards to your second point, only a random selection of 5-0's get posted so that's normal. Not sure what to say about the first one, must be a bug.

[twndomn]

I might just lose it if one day my opponent resolves this version.

[Discus]

So for the first time, I got a Miracles list posted as a 5-0 in a league for which I didn't even go 5-0. Apparently, this has also happened with another Miracles player I know. Is there something about the MTGO posting algorithm that somehow may cause Miracles list to be over-represented among these 5-0 lists?

(I have also had several 5-0s for which the lists were never posted. I think these were usually with decks other than Miracles.)

Yeah, same issue here with my H0cusP0cus account, i was on a 4/1 instead of 5/0

[Cipher]

I might just lose it if one day my opponent resolves this version.

I'm just going to pretend I don't see the card and make my opponent tell me what it is...that or call the judge and tell him my opponent is playing Yugioh cards.

[CutthroatCasual]

I might just lose it if one day my opponent resolves this version.

Don't worry, it'll be the universal sign for "how to spot a pleb" or "I just bought into Legacy 2 months ago."

[Minniehajj]

Don't worry, it'll be the universal sign for "how to spot a pleb" or "I just bought into Legacy 2 months ago."

I really don't like this attitude, why should we look down on people that play the format?

That being said, you better bet I'm calling a judge whenever my opponent plays one of these cards. In my opinion, they are basically Yu Gi Oh cards and should not be legal in Magic at all. If these are legal and the Snoopy Goyfs from GP Indy aren't...that's a reaaaaal tragedy.

[hyp3r1on]

As obnoxiously bad as the Counterbalance invocation is, I don't see how it's any worse than FTV JTMS.

[Minniehajj]

As obnoxiously bad as the Counterbalance invocation is, I don't see how it's any worse than FTV JTMS.

They are both horrendously offensive, glad we're in agreement here.

EDIT: Oh! BIG FAN btw!

[Namhcir]

I might just lose it if one day my opponent resolves this version.

I can't wait to resolve these in Vegas . I think I am the only person that likes these versions lol. Although I will stick to acquiring JP Forces.

[Cipher]

I can't wait to resolve these in Vegas . I think I am the only person that likes these versions lol. Although I will stick to acquiring JP Forces.

It's guaranteed to be so tilting to your opponent that I'd call it tech for the Miracles mirror...

[B88]

i don't knwo if someone might be intrested, but i've started a primer on Mentor Daze Miracle here: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...Mentor-Miracle

check out!

[Quasim0ff]

I'm 100% getting the worst looking cards on magic online. That place is so tilting already, might as well go all out.

Unrelated: Anuraag Das (Rover) (Twitch.tv/anzi104) is playing vs Jarvis Yu (Snoopy) (Twitch.tv/jarvisyu) pretty soon.
It's gonna be epic.

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[oarsman]

I never change up my versions of cards, but I think you guys are crazy for hating on the new stuff. I think they are cool. If they came in non-foils I would actually consider playing them.

[Cipher]

I never change up my versions of cards, but I think you guys are crazy for hating on the new stuff. I think they are cool. If they came in non-foils I would actually consider playing them.

I'm a big fan of most of the masterpieces. These ones just are impossible to read, and the artwork looks like computer-generated. Almost like Diablo 3 screenshots.

[Agrippa91]

What do you guys think is the best finisher/comeback card against a stifle delver player (in my case grixis). Jace seems bad because of Pyroblast, Entreat sucks against stifle and flusterstorm and Mentor is often times bad because it's pretty bad in topdeck mode and doesn't stop Delver/DRS.

I mean I get it that any of these cards can finish off Grixis when Miracles has them in a lock already, but often times Miracles needs a more proactive card to stem the bleeding, otherwise Delver just 1-for-1s them and wins because it doesn't play out all its lands and thus generally has way more spells in hand.

Any thoughts?

[CutthroatCasual]

What do you guys think is the best finisher/comeback card against a stifle delver player (in my case grixis). Jace seems bad because of Pyroblast, Entreat sucks against stifle and flusterstorm and Mentor is often times bad because it's pretty bad in topdeck mode and doesn't stop Delver/DRS.

I mean I get it that any of these cards can finish off Grixis when Miracles has them in a lock already, but often times Miracles needs a more proactive card to stem the bleeding, otherwise Delver just 1-for-1s them and wins because it doesn't play out all its lands and thus generally has way more spells in hand.

Any thoughts?

Resolve a mid-game Mentor with instant-speed spells in hand and then just wait for them to pop removal?

Remember, they can only play 4 Stifles so if the spend all their time Stifling Terminus triggers and the using their countermagic to prevent you from putting them back on top (or resolving one that they don't have the Stifle for) then the coast is clear for ETA.

It's a tough MU, but I would probably go for the ETA kill over Mentor in this case.

[Poron]

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