Mox Pearl 1/24/2009 CASH Tournament @ THE GRID GAMES in Manchester, CT

[Rood]

We salute you, signed Phyrexian Dreadnought.

Also congrats Ben on taking it home and breaking your 3rd place curse.

[The Grid Games]

I would like to thank all who attended for coming and congratulations to the winners. We doubled the attendance from the last Legacy event held in October so the future of Legacy at The Grid Games is looking bright.

I will be holding these events monthly with the next one to be held on Sunday February 15th at 12pm. I will be posting the prize structure and official announcement soon.

The Top 8 decklists were
1st Place Ben Lukas
Main
1 Forest
1 Island
3 Flooded Strands
3 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
3 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
3 Tropical Island
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Nimble Mongoose
2 Trygon Predator
2 Mystic Enforcer
3 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Counterbalance
3 Sensei's Diving Top
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm

SB
3 Gaddock Teeg
2 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Threads of Disloyalty
3 Krosan Grip
4 Red Elemental Blast

2nd Place Matt Kolodziej
Main
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Taiga
7 Mountain
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
3 Fireblast
2 Price of Progress
4 Magma Jet
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Figure Of Destiny
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Mogg Fanatic
1 Barbarian Ring
3 Rift Bolt

SB
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
3 Pyroblast
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Krosan Grip
2 Red Elemental Blast

3rd Place Ed Dunning
Main
4 Wasteland
4 Badlands
2 Taiga
1 Volrath's Stronghold
2 Rishadan Port
4 Bloodstained Mire
5 Mountain
3 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Kiki Jiki Mirror Breaker
4 Goblin Ringleader
3 Warren's Weirding
1 Gempalm Incinerator
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Aether Vial
4 Goblin Piledriver
1 Tin Street Hooligan
1 Skirk Prospector
1 Earwig Squad
1 Wort, Boggart Auntie
1 Vexing Shusher
1 Goblin Tinkerer

SB
4 Thoughtseize
1 Vexing Shusher
3 Krosan Grip
2 Terminate
2 Pyrokinesis
3 Relic of Progenitus

4th Place Joshua Cicio
Main
2 Mystic Enforcer
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Nimble Mongoose
3 Daze
4 Counterbalance
3 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Trygon Predator
1 Forest
1 Island
3 Tropical Island
3 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
4 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills

SB
2 Pithing Needle
3 Gaddock Teeg
1 Pyroblast
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Krosan Grip
3 Threads of Disloyalty

5th Place Aaron Lefkowitz
Main
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
4 Bayou
3 Savannah
2 Taiga
4 Forest
4 Birds of Paradise
1 Quirion Ranger
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
4 Dark Confidant
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Eternal Witness
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Anger
1 Genesis
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Shriekmaw
1 Masticore
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Darkheart Sliver
4 Thoughtsieze
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Survival of the Fittest

SB
3 Orim's Chant
1 Ethersworn Cannonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
3 Krosan Grip
2 Magus of the Moon
3 Extirpate
1 Duress
1 Vexing Shusher

6th Place Louis Gentile
Main
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Painter's Servant
4 Grindstone
4 Imperial Recruiter
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Pyroblast
1 Dragon Whelp
3 Sword of Light & Shadow
2 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
2 Figure of Destiny
1 Viashino Heretic
3 Relic of Progenitus
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Chrome Mox
4 Simian Spirit Guide
10 Mountain

SB
2 Shattering Pulse
4 Trinisphere
2 Vexing Shusher
3 Pyroclasm
2 Chalice of the Void
1 Faerie Macabre
1 Relic of Progenitus

7th Place Michael Misiaszek
Main
4 Force of Will
4 Standstill
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Brainstorm
3 Fact or Fiction
3 Engineered Explosives
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
2 Decree of Justice
2 Vindicate
2 Eternal Dragon
2 Spellsnare
2 Wrath of God
3 Counterspell
3 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
3 Wasteland
3 Mishra's Factory
3 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
1 Scrubland
1 Academy Ruins
2 Island
2 Plains
1 Swamp

SB
3 Meddling Mage
3 Runed Halo
3 Engineered Plague
3 Relic of Progenitus
2 Ajani Goldmane
1 Humility

8th Place Chris Victor
Main
1 Polluted Delta
1 Plains
2 Tundra
1 Tropical Island
9 Island
2 Mutavault
4 Wasteland
1 Pendelhaven
1 Flooded Strand
4 Cursecatcher
2 Tide Shaper Mystic
4 Lord of Atlantis
1 Sygg, River Guide
4 Silvergill Adept
4 Merrow Reejerey
2 Cold-Eyed Selkie
4 Aether Vial
4 Force of Will
3 Stifle
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Cunning Wish
3 Daze

SB
1 Gaea's Blessing
2 Chill
3 Meddling Mage
1 Stifle
2 Swords to Plowshares
2 Propaganda
2 Echoing Truth
1 Orim's Chant
1 Abeyance

[asdljas]

Trygon Predator steamrolled that deck singlehandedly. How else does one come back from an opponent having 3x Sword of Light and Shadow?

I want to note that I beat the Mono Red Painter deck in the Swiss and was not impressed, but somehow he managed to Top 8 with it.

He managed to Top 8 because I did not ID with him. I suck at figuring out tie-breakers, and he beat me solidly. Does anyone know of a reference site where I can learn how to ID into the Top 8? I can never figure out the breakers.

Maybe he just picked it up to look at it and then realized I hadn't noticed and slipped it into his pocket or maybe he did right away intend to steal it. Maybe it's still possible that some random other person just snatched it off the table as they walked by. I really believe I know who stole it though and it's a bunch of bullshit that somebody would do that. How can you be part of something where it is hard enough to attract new players and then when you do get one you steal from him? It's not good for anybody involved and it's a shame for everybody who plays this game.

I was nearby when MikeyFlowers accused the Imperial Painter guy of stealing the card. I was trading with him (I think his name is Louis), and vigilant the entire time. Here are a few things to keep in mind:

• I do not know Louis, so consider me impartial.
• Your statement above is very clear: You do not know for a fact that he stole the card. It is more likely that a passerby stole the card than Louis, standing across from you.
• I agree that theft is bad for the game of Magic. I would have said something immediately if I noticed anything happen.
• I was vigilantly paying attention to Louis, because he had my trade binder in his hand.
• He emptied his pockets and let you search him after you blatantly accused him. I would not have let you, with the belligerent attitude you exuded.
• This guy would have to have had some balls to steal the card you were right in front of and watching the entire time.
• You need to be more observant of where your cards are. You had them right in front of you.

[rockout]

I didn't misplace it and I didn't accuse "people" of stealing it. I accused one person of stealing it. The one person who I'm still more than 99% convinced did steal it.

I'm 100% certain that I had it with me when I showed up at the grid and I'm 100% certain that within moments of this person sitting down at the table across from me while I filled in my deck registration form it suddenly disappeared.

You didn't have the conversations I had with this person and you didn't see what I saw. It's easy to tell when somebody is lying to you and this kid certainly seemed to be lying to me.

This card was substantially valuable and worse yet was part of a matching set of four Pete Venters autographed cards. Not only am out a $50 card but the value of the remaining three is substantially diminished as they no longer are a set.

Maybe he just picked it up to look at it and then realized I hadn't noticed and slipped it into his pocket or maybe he did right away intend to steal it. Maybe it's still possible that some random other person just snatched it off the table as they walked by. I really believe I know who stole it though and it's a bunch of bullshit that somebody would do that. How can you be part of something where it is hard enough to attract new players and then when you do get one you steal from him? It's not good for anybody involved and it's a shame for everybody who plays this game.

Did you notice the fat, rather tall for his age, blonde kid with braces that plays pokemon walk by in your match against Louis and touch the top of your deck? I didn't think you did. Best thing I can say to you is be careful.

[MikeyFlowers]

Did you notice the fat, rather tall for his age, blonde kid with braces that plays pokemon walk by in your match against Louis and touch the top of your deck? I didn't think you did. Best thing I can say to you is be careful.

No I didn't notice when that happened either. To suggest that I was being completely unreasonable is plain wrong though. Put yourself in my shoes.

This was the second time the card had even left my house. I brought it to Over The Edge on Wednesday and ended up not playing that deck and I brought it to The Grid on Saturday and somebody took it. I had just bought the card a week ago and paid $200 for the set of four. Not only am I out the $50 card, the value of the remaining three is diminished by a fair amount, the cost to replace the card with a regular unsigned version will be about $30 and I had to buy a pack of $10 sleeves to be able to play my deck with the replacement that Paul was nice enough to let me borrow. When it's all said and done really I lost over $100. Not to mention it was a pretty cool collector's item.

How would you feel if it were your card? You probably wouldn't be the least bit suspicious of the person who was most near by and well within arms reach when it went missing would you? You probably would have just taken his word for it when he simply could not with a straight face tell you he didn't take it wouldn't you?

I got to talk to Louis a fair amount over the course of the day and he really does seem like a good guy and I can see why he has so many friends amongst the regular players. But if you reversed the situation and it were Louis' card that had gone missing and I were the person nearest by when it happened would anybody be so ready to defend me? Would anybody think he was being unreasonable if he lost his cool over the situation? Probably not.

I never would have expected in a million years that there would be people at an event which is presumably only attended by the most avid fans of the game who would think its alright to just walk by and steal a card from somebody. The card isn't coming back and I think it's best if everyone just drops it. It's a reminder to everyone that you really do need to keep an eye on your stuff because there will always be some soulless prick who thinks his passing desire to snatch the card is worth more than the misery it causes for the person he stole from.

[Rehallek]

This was the second time the card had even left my house. I brought it to Over The Edge on Wednesday and ended up not playing that deck and I brought it to The Grid on Saturday and somebody took it. I had just bought the card a week ago and paid $200 for the set of four. Not only am I out the $50 card, the value of the remaining three is diminished by a fair amount, the cost to replace the card with a regular unsigned version will be about $30 and I had to buy a pack of $10 sleeves to be able to play my deck with the replacement that Paul was nice enough to let me borrow. When it's all said and done really I lost over $100. Not to mention it was a pretty cool collector's item.

What kind of awful math is that? So after you lose a "$50" card you are somehow out "over $100"? That doesn't even begin to make sense.

And stop bringing up that he couldn't keep a straight face. I for one can keep a straight face much much easier if I am lying. I actually smile when I tell the truth.

On an unrelated topic: glad to see the Grid will be holding monthly events. Connecticut needed a legacy scene and it's only a 30 or so minute drive for me which is amazing.

[MikeyFlowers]

What kind of awful math is that? So after you lose a "$50" card you are somehow out "over $100"? That doesn't even begin to make sense.

It's pretty simple actually. $50 for the card which was stolen. $30 for a new one. $10 for the sleeves. And probably $10 each in lost value on the remaining three as now I would have to sell them separately instead of as a set (just like I explained in my first post).

That is $120... alles klar?

And I don't know why you're spouting off nonsense online that I'm certain you wouldn't say to me in person. If you do want to discuss it though feel free to bring it up next time you see me at an event and we can talk about it face to face.

[TrialByFire]

Ben would have broken the curse, EXCEPT he broke it at Hadley when he scrubbed like a NOOB. You would hae known if you were there Rodney. Afraid of a little snow are we?

Oh BURN!























Yea thats right. Just playing with you bro.

[J.V.]

Ben would have broken the curse, EXCEPT he broke it at Hadley when he scrubbed like a NOOB. You would hae known if you were there Rodney. Afraid of a little snow are we?

Oh BURN!























Yea thats right. Just playing with you bro.

A burn about snow, ironic.

[rockout]

I know for a fact that I wouldn't have a card stolen because my deck is sleeved and ready to go before I even leave my house for the tournament and I don't make changes once I get there unless I see 10 people playing mono-red burn. It's a good way to keep track of your cards and know what you have. I can personally vouche for Louis and I'm sure a bunch of people could vouche for me just because I see the same people at every tournament I go to. There's a certain level of respect we all have for each other and if you stick around in the legacy scene, you will begin to feel that.

[Rehallek]

And I don't know why you're spouting off nonsense online that I'm certain you wouldn't say to me in person. If you do want to discuss it though feel free to bring it up next time you see me at an event and we can talk about it face to face.

Actually I made it quite clear how I felt right at the tournament and said pretty much what I said before right to you. I was right there when you started whining to his gf on how "he stole your card".

Also your math still makes no sense. Besides overvaluing your Dreadnought I don't see how losing one sleeve you lose the entire $10. That gets you 100 sleeves you have 60 cards in your deck and 15 sideboard. 60 plus 15 equals 100 right? .. oh wait no it doesn't. Maybe you should learn to keep a closer eye on your cards. I'd feel bad that you lost a Dreadnought, but you lost all sympathy when you started on a rant on how Louis stole your Dreadnought.

[MikeyFlowers]

Actually I made it quite clear how I felt right at the tournament and said pretty much what I said before right to you.

Maybe you should learn to keep a closer eye on your cards.

So does that make you the one saying "there are RULES against this sort of thing" or the one saying "he didn't do it, he WOULDN'T do it!"

Again, flip the situation around. Had it been the exact same scenario only it was one of Louis' Imperial Recruiters (six out of the seven which sold this month on ebay went for between $89 and $105 with one selling for $120) which had gone missing you know damn well he would have been absolutely bullshit about the situation and I would have been the number one suspect. I don't know why it's so hard for you to realize that put in the same situation he, you, or anybody else would have reacted about the same way.

And about your "maybe you should learn to keep a closer eye on your cards" comment, that's just a real dickhead statement. Is that the kind of community you really want to play in? If you take your eyes off your cards (while still remaining right there next to them, it's not like I just walked away from my deck) for literally seconds one of them disappears? You act like you think it's to be expected that cards will be stolen. This was the second large event I've ever played in. How could I have known ahead of time to assume the community at large is a bunch of dicks who regularly cheat and steal from each other as you seem to imagine it is.

And I had to re-sleeve the entire deck. I didn't have a matching sleeve to replace the one which had gone missing. I suppose I could have just swapped out a sideboard card sleeve and shared one sleeve between two cards but as you are such a fan of pointing out, aren't there rules about that sort of thing? Aren't all your cards supposed to be sleeved and matching if you are playing with sleeves? If that's not the case then I would have really appreciated a heads up from the store owner before I dropped $10 on product I didn't need.

Like I said, just let it drop, arguing online isn't going to get anybody anywhere. If you still feel sore about it next time you see me in person go ahead and confront me about it. I'd love to discuss it with you.

[Rehallek]

I was the guy standing next to the guy with the large hair and the computer.

And now you are undervaluing Imperial Recruiters with your bad, bad math.Those were actually my Imperial Recruiters that I was letting Louis borrow. I know he doesn't steal. And if one had disappeared I highly doubt Louis would have blamed someone who had a binder in his hand and was trading with some one else at the time. And he definitely wouldn't have gone up to said person's gf and harassed her.

And like I said you lost all sympathy for losing your Dreadnought when you decided to go about your witch hunt in the way you did. You saw the closest person and passed the blame off on him.

How could I have known ahead of time to assume the community at large is a bunch of dicks who regularly cheat and steal from each other as you seem to imagine it is.

I'm all for getting more people to play legacy, but if you're going to call the legacy community a bunch of cheating, card stealing dicks.. maybe you shouldn't play.


I will let it drop for now, but seriously dude learn to handle yourself better in public.

[demoncrovax]

Again, flip the situation around. Had it been the exact same scenario only it was one of Louis' Imperial Recruiters ...which had gone missing you know damn well he would have been absolutely bullshit about the situation and I would have been the number one suspect. .

And about your "maybe you should learn to keep a closer eye on your cards" comment, that's just a real dickhead statement. Is that the kind of community you really want to play in? .... This was the second large event I've ever played in. How could I have known ahead of time to assume the community at large is a bunch of dicks who regularly cheat and steal from each other as you seem to imagine it is.

And I had to re-sleeve the entire deck. I didn't have a matching sleeve to replace the one which had gone missing. I suppose I could have just swapped out a sideboard card sleeve and shared one sleeve between two cards but as you are such a fan of pointing out, aren't there rules about that sort of thing? Aren't all your cards supposed to be sleeved and matching if you are playing with sleeves? If that's not the case then I would have really appreciated a heads up from the store owner before I dropped $10 on product I didn't need.

I have a few points to add:

If it was an Imperial Recruiter that went missing why would you have been the number one suspect? Your location in the room the time the card went missing or that you’re ‘the new guy’?

Did you leave your car unlocked outside while playing inside? Why did you lock it? It human nature (Not the nature of the card game) that people steal things. Any time you’re in public you should be watching your stuff. Rehallek wasn't being a DickHead. He was talking common sense.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not siding with Louis here. Louis was willing to try and prove the best he can that he didn’t take your card. I know that it sucks getting stuff stolen but you’re standing there and arguing around in circles about it is only going to make things worse. Your best course of action would have been to talk to the store owner about it, and then maybe the police.

Lastly only the cards in the deck needs to have the same sleeves. Many players have sideboards that are not sleeved at all. As long as the cards are all the same when in the deck, it’s ok. You can even have your sideboard in completely different sleeves. That’s fine too as long as those sleeves are changed when putting those cards in the deck. This policy is implied in the DCI Penalty Guide section on marked cards (The section only cares about the main deck).

If you have any question about DCI policy please feel free to PM me.