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    Yeah the more I think about it, I like it less (the white token spell thing)

    It's a little bit "get there" but if you had a means of having multiple attack steps in one turn, it could maybe kind of blow a sucker out, right - if you control three 1/1s and can attack with impunity anyway, you'll swing for 6. Then somehow magically take another attack step; the original 3 make three more, and you beat for 9 for a grand total of 15 damages that turn. Since most of the questionable 'Attack Step Time Walk' cards are Red (if not all, right?) then you're playing RW Sligh with a really weird win-con in Time Walking the attack step instead of just durdleburning all the things. A strong start with Goblin Guides and Bolts could make a terribad turn Early win happen somehow, and that's funny to me.

    I dunno about all that though, haha. I thought of Militia's Pride when I first saw the card and while I played it for the lulz, it was never a Tier 1 effect, even though it had tribal synergy. I mean when it was awesome it was fucking awesome; I think more control decks would whine about seeing Militia's Pride resolve than Bitterblossom because it meant that the little kid aggro deck was going to keep up with BB tokens with 1 guy but start racing with 2, so it made it very easy to under-extend when I knew the opponent would just Wrath because I could just drop a guy a turn and eventually amass a horde. As a one-shot effect, it becomes a tad more aggressive but it doesn't have the same cumulative effect that I found to be so useful in Militia's Pride.

    I really do make it a habit to play with bad cards. I know how I am.

    Anyway they need to hurry up and spoil the Orzhov god, because IMO these gods are a par above the BotG ones and I like really really just really wanna see that shit because I do. It has nothing to do with my Ghost Council of Orzhova EDH deck. Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Anyway they need to hurry up and spoil the Orzhov god, because IMO these gods are a par above the BotG ones and I like really really just really wanna see that shit because I do. It has nothing to do with my Ghost Council of Orzhova EDH deck. Nope.
    ; some condition - opponent(s) lose 1-2 life, you gain that much life.

    Anything else would actually suprise me, especially ability-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    ; some condition - opponent(s) lose 1-2 life, you gain that much life.

    Anything else would actually suprise me, especially ability-wise.
    Given the potency of the others though I would hope it's something a little less passive than all that. Really the gods spoiled so far are much better than those in the last set IMHO. Even the Boros guy is 'very Boros' in its execution, and honestly I do not think it is that tough to get to 7 devotion with such a deck considering that the good red and white guys tends to have double colored requirements anyway, so it is fairly aggressive in its own right.

    Not necessarily talking about Legacy here, but hopefully that was understood.

    EDIT: Also, so far none of the two-color gods have had a cost:effect ability, so that'd be a bit of a break from convention if that were the case. (not counting Phenax, that's a bit of a technicality)
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    The tokens don't get haste, so you'd only be swinging for 12. I guess you could pile on with battle cry creatures. (Though I'm not sure how the timing works with that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    The tokens don't get haste, so you'd only be swinging for 12. I guess you could pile on with battle cry creatures. (Though I'm not sure how the timing works with that.)
    Shit, you are right - the first set of tokens doesn't get to attack again. 12 is less impressive than 15. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    Ability wording the "kick for additional targets" thing. Set has a bunch of it.
    You mean Multikicker? I guess this is just a very specific case of Multikicker where each kicking hits a new target. Wait, didn't Comet Storm already do that? If they reprint Comet Storm, will they give it Strive or Multikicker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    The tokens don't get haste, so you'd only be swinging for 12. I guess you could pile on with battle cry creatures. (Though I'm not sure how the timing works with that.)
    You can choose how the timing works. Stack the triggers so your attacking tokens are created first, then resolve Battle Cry.

    This card seems bad in general but amazing in an Wx Standard deck with a need to hit Battalion (e.g. aggro decks with Daring Skyjet) or the Ephara deck with Precinct Captain + Brimaz (Draw lotsa cards), or a Boros deck with Assemble the Legion and the RW anthem.

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    This card seems bad in general but amazing in an Wx Standard deck with a need to hit Battalion...
    It seems like just fielding another creature would be comparable for hitting battalion, and better most of the rest of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Given the potency of the others though I would hope it's something a little less passive than all that. Really the gods spoiled so far are much better than those in the last set IMHO. Even the Boros guy is 'very Boros' in its execution, and honestly I do not think it is that tough to get to 7 devotion with such a deck considering that the good red and white guys tends to have double colored requirements anyway, so it is fairly aggressive in its own right.

    Not necessarily talking about Legacy here, but hopefully that was understood.

    EDIT: Also, so far none of the two-color gods have had a cost:effect ability, so that'd be a bit of a break from convention if that were the case. (not counting Phenax, that's a bit of a technicality)
    Speaking of Phenax, he was the only god last time who wasn't spoiled during the first week, and he's also the worst god outside of Limited. I would totally not be surprised at all if Athreos were just a Subversion on a body.

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    Ajani could potentially see play in a deck like Nicfit. With land acceleration 3GW isn't too bad, and the +1's go well in the deck.
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    Re: [JOU] Journey into Nyx Spoiler discussion

    FINALLY

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    Other Centaur creatures you control get +1/+1 and have vigilance and trample.

    3/3

    Everyone's all "urr minotaur tribal urrrrrr" well go to hell suckers! My Phantom Centaur will block your stupid shit all goddamn day as can't die to damage after it loses that last counter.

    A 3/1 that never dies to your dumb creatures; REMIND U OF ANYTHING LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacrix View Post
    Ajani could potentially see play in a deck like Nicfit. With land acceleration 3GW isn't too bad, and the +1's go well in the deck.
    I just don't see dropping him and using any of his +1's as an optimal "This is exactly what I wanted to do this turn with all my mana!" move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    FINALLY

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    Creature - Centaur Warrior
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    Other Centaur creatures you control get +1/+1 and have vigilance and trample.

    3/3

    Everyone's all "urr minotaur tribal urrrrrr" well go to hell suckers! My Phantom Centaur will block your stupid shit all goddamn day as can't die to damage after it loses that last counter.

    A 3/1 that never dies to your dumb creatures; REMIND U OF ANYTHING LOL
    Lacks protection, but good attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahg113 View Post
    Lacks protection, but good attempt.

    ::sigh:: I miss Judgement. Phantom.dec - Nantaku, Centaur, Nishoba.... durdle smash
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    Ability wording the "kick for additional targets" thing. Set has a bunch of it.
    Dammit, now I want Fireball back, which was the original version of this.

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    Re: [JOU] Journey into Nyx Spoiler discussion

    I played Phantom Centaur, Soltari Priest and Troll Ascetic with Armadillo Cloak plus Worship in the INV - 7th - TSP Extended. It was brilliant, half of the field were different takes on Boros Deck Loses to Armadillo Cloak.
    I like the new centaur. There should be some deck to play it in. Tribal wars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer View Post
    I played Phantom Centaur, Soltari Priest and Troll Ascetic with Armadillo Cloak plus Worship in the INV - 7th - TSP Extended. It was brilliant, half of the field were different takes on Boros Deck Loses to Armadillo Cloak.
    I like the new centaur. There should be some deck to play it in. Tribal wars?
    You know, I of course decided to Gatherer search a bit for relevant Centaurs, and some of them kind of seem maybe playable.

    Boreal Centaur - Not really kidding. It's a 2/2 for 1G with Nantuko Shade's ability. Only 'problem' is it costs "snow" to activate. It isn't as if it would be hard to build a deck with a mana base that facilitates that; Shade was a bamf as a 2/1 for , could this terrible card even pretend to fill that role? Shade was good because Mono-Black Control could Mutilate and pump the Shade to live, and obviously that trick isn't gonna work with this card's colors, but failing that it's an easy creature to grow. Besides, who doesn't love a little RTFC? Talk about RTFC: it's once per turn. Ugh. Fuck. Piss.
    Burning-Tree Shaman - nice SDT. Also over-the-curve ever so slightly.
    Courser of Kruphix - seems okay? Not sure. Gets you moar land kind of.
    Fanatic of Xenagos - 4/4 trampler, or 4/4 Haste + trampler (then shrinks, boo) for 3 mana. Dumb aggro beats aw yiss
    Jolreal's Centaur - It's no Knight of the Holy Nimbus, but it'll do in a pinch. Heh, no but I like Flanking because it's RTFC and Shroud doesn't suck entirely.
    Centaur Omenreader - Proooobably NOT worth it, but casting Centaurs for and seems good?
    Nylea's Disciple - it's the wrong half of Grey Merchant of Asphodel :( you have to be winning for it to be good I guess
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    Call of the Conclave is the best

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    Re: [JOU] Journey into Nyx Spoiler discussion

    PAX spoiler of the B/W god a minute ago:


    3 mana god but not so impressive imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Burning-Tree Shaman - nice SDT. Also over-the-curve ever so slightly.
    Courser of Kruphix - seems okay? Not sure. Gets you moar land kind of.
    Fanatic of Xenagos - 4/4 trampler, or 4/4 Haste + trampler (then shrinks, boo) for 3 mana. Dumb aggro beats aw yiss
    Jolreal's Centaur - It's no Knight of the Holy Nimbus, but it'll do in a pinch. Heh, no but I like Flanking because it's RTFC and Shroud doesn't suck entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphnir View Post
    PAX spoiler of the B/W god a minute ago:
    That seems impressive for 3 mana!
    Still based on creatures but a nice Enduring Renewal variance.

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