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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Maverick got a new 3 drop. Meet Kambal



    What's everyone opinion on this dude.

    Pros:

    He's a 2/3 that can't be massacre, Kolizek Return, Pyrocalsm.
    Can be return with Karakas.
    dodges most damage-spot removal (with the exception of bolt).
    Whenever a opponent tries to remove him, its a 4 L.P exchange for one spell they cast.

    Cons:
    Not fetchable with G.S.Z
    fights the 3 drop slot with T.H.C/ Sanctum Prelate/K.O.T.R


    I'm most likely going to be replacing my Sanctum Prelates with this dude. He's a threat that must be answered against Miracles, Delver, Storm, Lands.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Seems cool, I just wish the 3 drop slot wasn't so bogged down already.

    I went 4-1 in a league today:

    Deathblade: 2-0
    Jeskai Omnishow/Mentor: 2-1
    Jeskai Omnishow/Mentor: 1-2 (same guy lol)
    RUG Delver: 2-0
    UR Delver: 2-1

    My current list is pretty close to Neely's. I cut the 3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar for 1 SoLaS, 1 Sylvan Library, and 1 Scryb Ranger.

    SB:

    3 Thoughtseize
    2 Choke
    2 Abrupt Decay
    2 Zealous Persecution
    2 Ethersworn Canonist
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Reclamation Sage
    1 Garruk Relentless

    I didn't even realize I had a 14 card sideboard for that league until just now. I guess I will put the 4th Thoughtseize.

  3. #6863

    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Do you guys prefer dark depths combo or having gaea's cradle? I cant decide on which. Also, what are opinions on maze of ith?

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by kellysandall View Post
    Do you guys prefer dark depths combo or having gaea's cradle? I cant decide on which. Also, what are opinions on maze of ith?
    Cradle for sure, especially if you are running 3 equipments. Gives you huge tempo turns with Knight or just naturally drawing it. Dark depths takes 2 turns to
    Set up with knight and wasteland stops it and you can't get it back like lands does.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    I'm putting this together based on what I currently own. Would I benefit more from another Bayou and/or Savannah, or a Gaea's Cradle? I'd like to run around 4 basics as I have a very Wasteland-heavy local meta.

    // Creatures
    4 Deathrite Shaman
    1 Noble Hierarch
    4 Mother of Runes
    4 Knight of the Reliquary
    2 Qasali Pridemage
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
    2 Stoneforge Mystic
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Scryb Ranger
    1 Dryad Arbor

    // Spells
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    1 Sylvan Library
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Sword of Feast and Famine

    // Lands
    4 Wasteland
    4 Windswept Heath
    4 Verdant Catatombs
    1 Bayou
    1 Savannah
    1 Scrubland
    1 Karakas
    3 Forest
    2 Plains
    1 Swamp


    Savannah would definitely be easier to pick up, and leaves money for more sideboard goodies.
    Bayou seems less necessary than Savannah as the deck is primarily GW.
    Cradle seems on paper like it'd be the least necessary, but it did look pretty sweet in some older coverage I watched today of Thomas Herzog.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Congrats to my buddy Jj top 8ing the Indy classic. I wasn't able to make it but he told me his loss was to stax in the swiss and Omni in top 8.

    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=108144

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Definitely want another Savannah. And Cradle.
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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by RobNC View Post
    I'm putting this together based on what I currently own. Would I benefit more from another Bayou and/or Savannah, or a Gaea's Cradle? I'd like to run around 4 basics as I have a very Wasteland-heavy local meta.

    // Creatures
    4 Deathrite Shaman
    1 Noble Hierarch
    4 Mother of Runes
    4 Knight of the Reliquary
    2 Qasali Pridemage
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
    2 Stoneforge Mystic
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Scryb Ranger
    1 Dryad Arbor

    // Spells
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    1 Sylvan Library
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Sword of Feast and Famine

    // Lands
    4 Wasteland
    4 Windswept Heath
    4 Verdant Catatombs
    1 Bayou
    1 Savannah
    1 Scrubland
    1 Karakas
    3 Forest
    2 Plains
    1 Swamp


    Savannah would definitely be easier to pick up, and leaves money for more sideboard goodies.
    Bayou seems less necessary than Savannah as the deck is primarily GW.
    Cradle seems on paper like it'd be the least necessary, but it did look pretty sweet in some older coverage I watched today of Thomas Herzog.
    You deff want the 2nd savannah(most important land for Maverick). You don't need that many basics and you aren't running decay in the main so the swamp will only cast 4 cards in your main deck. I would deff cut it.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    If I get a Savannah it's very unlikely I'll be able to swing for a Cradle as well. I could do Savannah and Scrubland but Scrubland doesn't seem very helpful for more than one copy.

    I do have Decays in the sideboard, wasn't sure if I was going to put them in the main or not. I primarily play D&T and I sometimes find the lack of maindeck removal frustrating.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post
    Congrats to my buddy Jj top 8ing the Indy classic. I wasn't able to make it but he told me his loss was to stax in the swiss and Omni in top 8.

    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=108144
    Congrats to him.

    Lame that the 2nd coolest deck in Legacy loses to the biggest abortion in the format but... that's life I guess.
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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    I notice that A.D. is moved to the S.B.

    What caused this shift?

  12. #6872

    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknight View Post
    I notice that A.D. is moved to the S.B.

    What caused this shift?
    If you're talking about Jj's list, we have always played them in the board.

    Although I think it would be okay to move 1-2 main with the amount of grixis I have been facing on mtgo.

  13. #6873

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post
    If you're talking about Jj's list, we have always played them in the board.

    Although I think it would be okay to move 1-2 main with the amount of grixis I have been facing on mtgo.
    The past two legacy classic, the top 8 Maverick Decklist had A.D in SB. I understand depending on meta. The card isn't necessary mainboard (I.E Combo decks like Storm-Omni-Tell).

    I'm just curious.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    4-1 in another league.

    Eldrazi: 2-1
    Storm: 2-1
    Omnisneak: 1-2
    Aggro Loam: 2-1
    Bant Deathblade: 2-0

    Funny thing is, none of the matchups really looked good on paper, but the consistency of Maverick makes up for it.

    Here is the list again (basically stock)

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    4 Mother of Runes
    4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    4 Knight of the Reliquary
    2 Stoneforge Mystic
    2 Qasali Pridemage
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Noble Hierarch
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Scryb Ranger
    1 Scavenging Ooze

    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Sylvan Library
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Sword of Light and Shadow

    2 Savannah
    1 Bayou
    1 Scrubland
    2 Forest
    1 Plains
    4 Windswept Heath
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Wasteland
    1 Karakas
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Gaea's Cradle

    Sideboard
    4 Thoughtseize
    2 Zealous Persecution
    2 Choke
    2 Ethersworn Canonist
    2 Abrupt Decay
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Garruk Relentless
    1 Reclamation Sage

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Aside from the Orlando Classic 1st place list, I haven't see many well-placing lists with THC in them. Are you guys finding her underwhelming? Ive been jumping back through the history of the thread and saw a lot of talk when she was relatively new but not tons after. I was planning on a 3/3 split of TGT/THC but now I'm curious.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    I tested her. She was pretty cool, but often felt too little too late. I have won so many games lately off the back of Scryb Ranger, I think I just prefer to stick with the classic Scryb, Sword of Light and Shadow, and 2nd Sylvan Library (which I cut pretty often, mainly there for Miracles).


    I did win an otherwise unwinnable 2 games against Elves when I had Thalia, HC (I always kept him 1 turn away from a lethal combo, was able to wasteland cradles), so in certain metagames it might be worth it.

    I think for Miracles.meta, Sword + 2nd Library are better, and that's basically where I am most comfortable (having a plan against the top and most common deck).

  17. #6877

    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by ironclad8690 View Post
    Sword of Light
    Why this deck usually uses sword of light instead of fire and ice?

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by Serch View Post
    Why this deck usually uses sword of light instead of fire and ice?
    It doesn't, it uses both. He is only mentioning Light and Shadow because that is what he considers a "flex slot."

    His list is right up here and has both Fire and Ice and Light and Shadow.
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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by ironclad8690 View Post
    4-1 in another league.

    Eldrazi: 2-1
    Storm: 2-1
    Omnisneak: 1-2
    Aggro Loam: 2-1
    Bant Deathblade: 2-0

    Funny thing is, none of the matchups really looked good on paper, but the consistency of Maverick makes up for it.

    Here is the list again (basically stock)

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    4 Mother of Runes
    4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    4 Knight of the Reliquary
    2 Stoneforge Mystic
    2 Qasali Pridemage
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Noble Hierarch
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Scryb Ranger
    1 Scavenging Ooze

    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Sylvan Library
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Sword of Light and Shadow

    2 Savannah
    1 Bayou
    1 Scrubland
    2 Forest
    1 Plains
    4 Windswept Heath
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Wasteland
    1 Karakas
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Gaea's Cradle

    Sideboard
    4 Thoughtseize
    2 Zealous Persecution
    2 Choke
    2 Ethersworn Canonist
    2 Abrupt Decay
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Garruk Relentless
    1 Reclamation Sage
    This is my original 75 if I'm not playing batterskull, only diff is a pridemage in the board over rec sage. Love this list.

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    Re: [Deck] GW/x Maverick

    Quote Originally Posted by RobNC View Post
    Aside from the Orlando Classic 1st place list, I haven't see many well-placing lists with THC in them. Are you guys finding her underwhelming? Ive been jumping back through the history of the thread and saw a lot of talk when she was relatively new but not tons after. I was planning on a 3/3 split of TGT/THC but now I'm curious.
    I just don't think she's worth a slot, my personal opinion of her

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