Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
I have said for years that fetchland should get axed. It's why Brainstorm is good, it violates the concept of the color pie and makes everything. I think Pioneer has a good chance of succeeding because it doesn't have fetchland in it. If it did, I would have glanced over it.
We've done this for years here though. I don't disagree with the fact that fetches, when fetchable duals exist, are essentially optimal. I don't disagree with the fact that fetches reduce diversity. I don't disagree that fetches make some cards vastly better (Brainstorm, Delve spells).

I just disagree that these are things that should be acted upon with bans in Legacy.

Now, this Pioneer format, I do agree that if it had fetches, it would be sort of "worthless" right out of the gate, to me. Any format really worth playing (to me) needs an evident sort of Aristotelian "Final Cause." This is why Standard, and to some extent Modern, hold no interest to me. Because Modern's is just a shadow of Legacy and Standard's is just arbitrary "newness," in my opinion.

Consider how the casual formats of Middle School and PreModern have the same card pool, that is, we could say the same "material cause" but via the very different ban lists, have divergent "final causes" in how they actually play out.

Now, the question of if this format is actually interesting to play, well, I have no idea. And there is almost no chance I actually play it. But it at least is interesting to me in the intellectual sense.