I've had a few discussions with people in my area (all of whom don't own Survivals, I'm the only one) and we were talking about the situation with Vengevine Survival. I'm not playing it in the community at the moment, as I know no one has boarded against it (but it's understandable, since I'm the only one). I see a ton of people online/in real life complaining about it, but no one wants to do anything about it. Everyone's complacent about taking action against it because they think the DCI is going to do something for them.

Vengevine Survival is a good deck because it does thing Survival used to do for lots of mana for little mana. Plain and simple. But, why are few people adapting their sideboards, and their lists in general to have a better matchup? Is it so hard to slide the grave-hate you took out when Reanimator left back in? Is it so hard to lose 4 slots of sideboard against another archetype to deal with a very prevalent archetype at the moment?

The most active thread on Survival is the one calling for it's banning, and a bunch of people complaining about the unstoppable power, with very few people like myself discussing and reassuring that it isn't broken, and that we should work together to deal with it.

I think we all need to take a look at the lists we're running (and losing with) against Vengevine, and see how the board or main or both can be tweaked to improve the matchup. Discuss in the deck's appropriate thread or in the "How to beat Survival" thread, but seriously, go out, test, and discuss. I've already done solid testing with the decks that I play and I know how I need to board to give me a better shot at a win. Will it always work? No. Do you sometimes lose because the opponent draws the nuts? It can happen even with a matchup you're heavily favoured to win.

My two cents.

-Matt