[Primer] Nic Fit

[Echelon]

Does that worm solve any of our problems? No

This. It's probably just The Danger Of Cool Things. Even in Sneak Fit you'd rather have Emrakul/Worldspine Wurm.

Also, if thresher maw is going to be a Magic card I also want some Krogan cards, dammit.

[Scott]

Looks Nic Fitty

[Tokugawa]

If a deck just thirst for some raw P/T…green Gearhulk could provide 8/8 for 5cc. This 8cc is joke.

[Navsi]

Bontu isn't Zenithable, doesn't do anything important other than beat down as a 4/5, and indestructible doesn't stop any of the removal we're worried about. Killing our guys also isn't actually very easy for us - other than Explorer, most of our creatures are pretty solid on their own and we don't want to be sacrificing them, and we can't rely on having explorers around all the time.

[Echelon]

Looks Nic Fitty

What Navsi said.

If a deck just thirst for some raw P/T…green Gearhulk could provide 8/8 for 5cc. This 8cc is joke.

And Gearhulk isn't stopped dead in its tracks by a random 1/1.

[Ganfar]

I have just updated to my recent list. So 1 Tracker main. 61 card maindeck with 22 lands, as per usual mostly.
Because i am committing to Stormbreath Dragon and Chandra, i cannot have room for 2nd Tracker and/or Huntmaster. Having 2 of each is valid. Dropping SBD also means we could run 1 mountain rather then 2.
Stormbreath Dragon is such a great card, having haste, flying and out of reach for bolt, decay and !plow is a pretty big deal. A lot of times i can monstrous it the second turn it is in play, which usually mean i win that game. People don't except it etiher...

I have only one Stormbreath so I can test with Huntmaster in this place in meanwile.
Edit: how good has Stronghold? I have only got to use a few times. I would rather have one more tower to get better early game

[Scott]

I'll clarify: looks like the kind of or creature with CMC ≥3 and interesting sacrifice abilities that gets spoiled, has nowhere to go (including Nic Fit), and people like me post it in the Nic Fit thread

[Echelon]

I'll clarify: looks like the kind of or creature with CMC ≥3 and interesting sacrifice abilities that gets spoiled, has nowhere to go (including Nic Fit), and people like me post it in the Nic Fit thread

Nic Fit isn't just EDH for Legacy wannabes . There's actually some thought behind it all.

On the other hand, people do seem to think we're Recurring Nightmare/Unearth/Vraska playing bumblefucks, so what do I know?

[Navsi]

To be honest Rhonas and Kefnet are probably the closest to what we want in Nic Fit.

Rhonas:
+ Large indestructible body, beats goyf/angler
+ Easy to enable
+ Fast clock
+ Zenithable
- No card advantage
- Dies to swords and Terminus and Karakas

Kefnet:
+ Blocks everything including marit lage
+ Reasonable clock
+ CA engine
- Harder to enable
- Not Zenithable
- Dies to swords and Terminus and Karakas

I don't think either of them quite get there. If we're gonna play a game ending creature that dies to swords/terminus/karakas but is great against nonwhite grindy decks, we're probably better off just playing Meren, who seems pretty much straight better than the gods and isn't exactly an autoinclude herself.

[Megadeus]

I'm going to play this massive horrifying fucking wurm with Nylea and rape some fools

[Navsi]

I'm going to play this massive horrifying fucking wurm with Nylea and rape some fools

That's not a very nice thing to say.

Also the wurm is confirmed fake.

[Megadeus]

That's not a very nice thing to say.

Also the wurm is confirmed fake.

Seemed pretty retarded. I had suspicions. Oh well. Back to Titania and Need for Speed

[Ganfar]

The problem with those cards is that they are one shots mostly aimed at Spells rather then permanents, the card is probably at its best against Show and Tell or Jace, and since most red lists run PFire and are rather grindy I'd rather have something that fixes things permenantly or hits multiple cards at once. REB/pyro in Sneak are most valid since they can potentially protect a combo. Other then that I'd say it is a pretty narrow meta card.

I have more questions about Jund deck?

Have Stronghold been good for you? I have only activated a few times and I think it's not so great. I rather have a second tower to trigger Vet.

What is Ugin doing in the sideborad? I like the idea but it's a bit wired. Is it against Mirakles?

[Bobmans]

I have more questions about Jund deck?

Have Stronghold been good for you? I have only activated a few times and I think it's not so great. I rather have a second tower to trigger Vet.

What is Ugin doing in the sideborad? I like the idea but it's a bit wired. Is it against Mirakles?

:)

Volrath's Stronghold is mainly there for the grind. I have been playing without one for a while and noticed i was missing some ways to recur creatures (after most where filtered out by previous GSZ's/draw's). Looping E.Witness, Thragtusk or even RecSage has been it's main usage. Plus i wanted to get most out of PrimeTime. Even just with PrimeTime i felt that i could drop to three Groves and support the 2 towers as a set. The manabase can be pretty rough sometimes, but i don't really see another options asides of going to 23 lands main (7 basics/7fetch/4duals/3grove/2tower). I also like Phyrexian Tower a lot, but i think 1 is fine. It would be a waste of a slot just as a sac outlet.

Ugin was initially there to troll for a bit, but after a couple of epic plays i thought for it to stay for a while. It wrecks Miracles and BUG and the likes, while also being the only out to Enchantress when it has its lock on the board! We have a player that always shows up with Enchantress.

That's not a very nice thing to say.

Also the wurm is confirmed fake.

Total scumbags.

[Echelon]

Total scumbags.

It was actual fake news.

[mstephenson]

[Bobmans]

Hmmm, nasty card. Altough the only thing i have to add is: it does not have hexproof or pro white and it requires white to activate it's ability.
Double Strike + Vigilance is pretty nasty. And Haste for everyone is pretty awesome aswell. And it doesn't die to bolt.

Edit: hmm, im actually not sure about this one. It just misses something to push it over the edge. i suppose it dying to plow is the thing.

[Luthiereisfun]

Hmmm, nasty card. Altough the only thing i have to add is: it does not have hexproof or pro white and it requires white to activate it's ability.
Double Strike + Vigilance is pretty nasty. And Haste for everyone is pretty awesome aswell. And it doesn't die to bolt.

Edit: hmm, im actually not sure about this one. It just misses something to push it over the edge. i suppose it dying to plow is the thing.

If I had to use her in a Nic Fit shell and try to make it work I would look at splashing red in rhino fit. Going 4 color isn't good but she's very aggressive and to me that's what rhino fit is more or less. You could throw in some thunderbolts for added reach. Her white ability lets you get multiple drs activations to maybe end games.

Not saying it's good or going to be a thing. But If I HAD to try and fit her in somewhere that's where I would start personally.

[Megadeus]

Could be the haste green Sun target we've always wanted to murder planes walkers

[tilzinger]

Could be the haste green Sun target we've always wanted to murder planes walkers

The new Croc does that too though. I'll definitely be trying out both of these. I've contemplated splashing a Taiga so I can run Slaughter Games in the side of my Junk Fit list. This could be another reason to look into that again. The croc hits harder though and costs less :/