View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Umezete View Post
    I'm conflicted, I don't like miracles but never saw it as a huge deal and I don't like it when a deck gets axed.

    That said, some some reason slow play is absolutely rampant in Japan and miracles players are by far the worse offenders. So I utterly understand the logistics behind the ban.
    Imagine how I felt when my 4x Shahrazad deck was banned, yet I'm the one who has to cope with those damn top-shuffle-top sequences.. I die to slow play more often than I do to having 0 life left, and I know it's not me because I pick aggressive decks to minimize the impact it has on me.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Pretty much me, right now:



    Durdle tears are so sweet.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    The Fucking Sweetest. The posts in the Miracles thread make it sound like somebody actually died. lololol.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Pretty much me, right now:



    Durdle tears are so sweet.
    Yet another victim of the brainstorm tiranny, rip top, may our t2 decks prosper in peace without you.

    Not even a single card unbanned, seriously wotc

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Towards where do I focus my hate now? :D

    Feels great after hating on Top for 4-5 years now.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Pretty much me, right now:



    Durdle tears are so sweet.
    That'll be me in 2 months when TNN/Leo/DRS takes over the format.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by danyul View Post
    The Fucking Sweetest. The posts in the Miracles thread make it sound like somebody actually died. lololol.
    Well, something is definitely dead now

  8. #16768

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Reddit is losing their fucking minds over this. I don't think any of them play Legacy. Format became so warped to deal with Miracles that it was thought to be just a normal part of Legacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Acclimation View Post
    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore View Post
    Interesting that Wizards acknowledged that Miracles has been the best deck for a long time and they were hoping the format would take it down, but the format could never adjust to it.
    They also said this wasn't enough to justify a ban.
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  10. #16770

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual View Post
    Getting rid of ETA accomplishes the same thing and doesn't kill the last bastion of pure control because then Miracles players don't have something to durdle towards.
    Hasn't Mentor already replaces ETA in most cases? Seems like the worst possible ban if you want to knock the deck down a peg.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimhead View Post
    They also said this wasn't enough to justify a ban.
    Sure, they said that but they still banned the card.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl3lazer View Post
    Hasn't Mentor already replaces ETA in most cases? Seems like the worst possible ban if you want to knock the deck down a peg.
    With the format moving more towards slower BUG decks (as opposed to Eldrazi for a while), ETA became a lot better.
    The purpose of any moat is to impede attack. Some are filled with water, some with thistles. Some are filled with things best left unseen.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    These B/R updates are just proof that Wizards is trying to dumb down the game, this time by killing Doomsday decks.
    WotC is always pandering to netdeckers who aren't willing to learn how to play a deck themselves.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore View Post
    Reddit is losing their fucking minds over this. I don't think any of them play Legacy. Format became so warped to deal with Miracles that it was thought to be just a normal part of Legacy.
    Yeah I don't think so either. Seems like the majority of Reddit users on the Legacy subreddit are just modern converts.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I think UWx Stoneblade comes back. Batterskull can deal with Leovold and hold off Truename nicely. Supreme Verdict of course. UWb with discard, Force, Deluge, and counterspells (actual Counterspell) could be a thing.

    UW Control with Rest in Peace and Energy Field might come back, although Decay still lingers.

    So many deck ideas had to be killed off early because it couldn't deal with Miracles...which is how Reid Duke BUG became a thing anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Acclimation View Post
    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by lorddotm View Post
    These B/R updates are just proof that Wizards is trying to dumb down the game, this time by killing Doomsday decks.
    WotC is always pandering to netdeckers who aren't willing to learn how to play a deck themselves.
    lol. I loved DDFT, but tbh, those ~3 players worldwide are not even on Wizard's radar (or anyone's).

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by lorddotm View Post
    These B/R updates are just proof that Wizards is trying to dumb down the game, this time by killing Doomsday decks.
    WotC is always pandering to netdeckers who aren't willing to learn how to play a deck themselves.
    For those of you that missed it this is easily the best Hot Take of this entire banning

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Another good thing about this ban is no one has to face off against an Invocation Counterbalance...awesome that Starcity is offering refunds on it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Acclimation View Post
    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
    Quote Originally Posted by maharis View Post
    Imagine the trauma of a man who has seen Mom into Crusader enough to mainboard three Cabal Pits.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl3lazer View Post
    For those of you that missed it this is easily the best Hot Take of this entire banning
    The big take away is that WotC not handling the format the way one wants does not mean they do not care about it or are not paying attention.
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  20. #16780

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderwaterGuy View Post
    Sure, they said that but they still banned the card.
    They sited logistics in their reasoning.
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